SALVATION

[setst777]

Didn't the rich young ruler boast to Christ that he kept all the commandments? What did Jesus say to him? But to be clear here, you are absolutely correct one must completely keep all that is written in the Law to enter heaven without a single blemish of sin. Meaning this person has to be perfectly righteous and holy. So, please tell me who has ever done that after the Fall? Besides Jesus a course.

What you are missing here fhansen, is that no one is good, all have fallen short of the glory of God. All have sinned and are under the curse of the Law. Why? Under the curse of the Law, because the Law brings knowledge of sin, which then brings God judgement and wrath against it. This is Law preaching to expose our sinful condition before a Holy God and the need for Mercy, which is the only place for a sinner! And sinners need a Redeemer, not exhortation (directions or DIY project to save yourself). No sinner can ever save himself through his/hers activity (works), of any kind.

Look here at what Paul says in Romans 10:

1 Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

So, here you have Jews who have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. What is Paul saying here? These Jews think they don't need the Gospel, because the Gospel is for sinners, not righteous men. They seek to establish their own righteousness and do not submit to God's righteousness. What does Paul mean by this? Well, instead of having Faith in the Gospel promise and receive the Righteousness of God, they refuse to submit and accept this. Why? because it is a stumbling block for the Jews. They refuse to submit that Free Righteousness could be given Freely through the Proclamation of the Gospel Promise. For Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousness to everyone who believes. Meaning Christ merited the Righteousness by fulfilling the Law by His Active/Passive Obedience which is given or imputed to those who Believe in Christ and what he has done.​

You can play games with God's Word, but Lord Jesus taught that the only faith by which we are granted eternal life is a faith by which we make a firm decision to renounce serving sin, and commit to become his disciples following him, and obeying all things he commands of us - that is the Great Commission for all nations (Matthew 28:19-20; John 15:10).

IF that is not the faith you have in Lord Jesus, then you are not in "The Faith" of the Gospel.

Christ only gives Eternal Life to the sheep who listen to and follow him. (John 10:27-28)

Matthew 10:38 (WEB) He who doesn’t take his cross and follow after me isn’t worthy of me.

Repentance, dying to sin to follow Christ in righteousness is what Baptism represents (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:1-8).

You will not take part in the Resurrection of Lord Jesus if your faith does not manifest by repentance, dying to the old life of sin, and rising to follow Christ in righteousness - walking in newness of life.

2 Corinthians 7:10 (WEB) For godly sorrow produces repentance to salvation

Luke 24:46-47 The Great Commission
46 He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Matthew 28:19-20 The Great Commission
Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them [disciples] in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them [disciples] to obey all things that I commanded you.

Romans 6:1-8 (WEB) What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 May it never be! We who died to sin, how could we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection; 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be in bondage to sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 But if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him

 

[fhansen]

Didn't the rich young ruler boast to Christ that he kept all the commandments? What did Jesus say to him? But to be clear here, you are absolutely correct one must completely keep all that is written in the Law to enter heaven without a single blemish of sin. Meaning this person has to be perfectly righteous and holy. So, please tell me who has ever done that after the Fall? Besides Jesus a course.

You're reading through the lens of a skewed theology. Were all enjoined to be perfect, to be who we were created to be- and sinners are not who we were created to be!
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matt 5:48
“You shall be holy, for I am holy." 1 Pet 1:16

One does not have to be under the law, one does not even need to hear the law, in order to be obedient to it. To obey the commandments, to be obedient, to be righteous are all the result of knowing, believing in, hoping in, and, most importantly, loving God. That is the whole point of the new covenant! The law is right, as Paul tells us in Rom 7. But it cannot accomplish true righteousness in you, only God can! The law can only point to, testify about, that righteousness (Rom 3:21), and so, yes, convict us of our unrighteousness by contrast. We need Something more, Someone more; we lack the very basis of authentic righteousness by being on our own.

And He knows it's a process, this coming near to Him, that won't be finished until the next life, But it's a road we must embark on now. So, no, you cannot go about raping, torturing, stealing, committing adultery, and killing and expect to even know God let alone be with Him just because you believe, LOL. Faith leads to God, to unity with Him, to agreement with Him, ultimately to full-out love for Him, or it's worthless, just talk. Fellowship with Him makes you holy; He puts His law in your mind and writes it on your heart. That's to be under grace, walking in the Spirit who indwells, acting out of love which obeys, by its nature.

 

[Clare73]

Didn't the rich young ruler boast to Christ that he kept all the commandments? What did Jesus say to him? But to be clear here,
you are absolutely correct one must completely keep all that is written in the Law to enter heaven without a single blemish of sin. Meaning this person has to be perfectly righteous and holy. So, please tell me who has ever done that after the Fall? Besides Jesus a course.​

Actually, the law was not given to make righteous to salvation, it was given to reveal sin (Ro 3:20), for salvation is, and always has been only by faith in the promise (Ge 15:5, Seed, Jesus Christ, Gal 3:16).

 

[ladodgers6]

Stop means stop. The word "sinning" or "sins" is a present and continuous action, meaning: "one who practices sin, or is living in one or more sins," as the Bible defines sin - a slaving to fulfill the any desires of the flesh as part of this world in any number of ways, which is contrary to serving or following Lord Jesus into a sanctified life of righteousness and love. Lord Jesus said we can only have one Master. Either you serve (practice) one or the other. So, choose this day whom you will serve.

In the Reformed, a sinner who is justified by Faith Alone apart from works of the Law; or any works for that matter; which also includes repentance. A sinner is not justified before God by his repentance, a sinner who believes in him who justifies the (UNGODLY) through Faith Alone apart from their activity & efforts. Now once the sinner is justified they walk in the Spirit in newness of life to do good works; but not to earn Salvation, but because these are the fruits of Salvation. Big difference. Because even as a believer they continue to sin everyday. Unless you are suggesting a believer is completely sinless and does not sin at all; meaning they are 100% holy and without sin?

This is why it is crucial when a sinner is converted to a believer that as a believer we always look yo Christ and him crucified. And to be his disciple we must deny ourselves and follow him. But this sir is not a easy task, because the Spirit is raging war against the flesh and vice versa.​

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

What does that mean?

It means that a person must ignore the sinfulness of his own flesh in order to think of himself as not being a sinner who deserves everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.

For all practical purposes your POV requires you to take no responsibility at all for sin

My POV is that I am responsible for all my sins. And just like every other person who is right with God, I am right with God because He has forgiven all my sins.

whereas with my POV I know that my sin can cause my death.

I am trying to get you to understand that the flesh (that all living people possess) has lusts that are in aderversarial opposition to the lusts of the Spirit of God and that the lusts of a person's flesh are that person's responsibility. Even if a person is largely successful at stopping their lusts from developing into outward sin, they are still responsible for the lusts that they are suppressing, not only for the outward sins that they commit.

Think about it: Jesus says we must forgive others their sins in order for us to be forgiven but you apparently say no.

You still havn't answered my question on this subject, so I will not answer yours.

He says we must obey the commandments to enter eternal life but you deny this.

There are two ways to to eternal life. One is by strict obedience to all things commanded by God and the other is through trust in Christ. The first is closed to man (because of the weakness of the flesh) and the second is the only path available. Those who choose the first path never want to fully embrace “Be holy, for I am holy” (1 Pet 1:16), "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect" (Mt 5:48), or "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them'" (Ga 3:10). When the strictness of the law catches them and convicts them of being sinners, they sometimes turn to Christ for forgiveness. Unfortunately, some see forgiveness of sins only as a patch to fill in the gaps in their performance and they return again to thinking they are right with God based on their performance.

Paul says we must do good and also overcome sin/deeds of the flesh in order to gain eternal life but you deny this as well.

Where exactly did He say that?

At the end of the day sin doesn't even seem to matter in your theology.

My theology is based on the principle that God so loved the world that He sent His Son to earth and laid on Him the inquity of us all so that those who look to Him for forgiveness of their sins will not perish but have everlasting life.

 

[fhansen]

It means that a person must ignore the sinfulness of his own flesh in order to think of himself as not being a sinner who deserves everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.

Ok, pretending to be righteous is anti-gospel though.

My POV is that I am responsible for all my sins. And just like every other person who is right with God, I am right with God because He has forgiven all my sins.

Jesus didn't die so you may continue or remain in your sins-just the opposite. There's nothing man can do about past sins but that's the past: we're forgiven of those and given a whole new life now: able to be slaves to righteousness instead of to sin (Rom 6).

I am trying to get you to understand that the flesh (that all living people possess) has lusts that are in aderversarial opposition to the lusts of the Spirit of God and that the lusts of a person's flesh are that person's responsibility. Even if a person is largely successful at stopping their lusts from developing into outward sin, they are still responsible for the lusts that they are suppressing, not only for the outward sins that they commit.

Agreed

You still havn't answered my question on this subject, so I will not answer yours.

Oh I answered it, probably, more than once in one way or another. Did you read post #669?

There are two ways to to eternal life. One is by strict obedience to all things commanded by God and the other is through trust in Christ. The first is closed to man (because of the weakness of the flesh) and the second is the only path available.

Correct, so there's only one way to God, which is the way I've been continuously speaking of: obedience, but obedience by the Spirit, not by the Letter, the Spirit who gives life, the Spirit by whom you can put to death the deeds of the flesh-if we truly walk in Him.

Those who choose the first path never want to fully embrace “Be holy, for I am holy” (1 Pet 1:16), "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect" (Mt 5:48),

There's a "third path": yours. And that path doesn't address those verses at all in any serious manner, while mine does. God is not asking for absolute perfect sinlessness when we walk by the Spirit, but we must not remain as we were; we must be on the "journey to perfection" as the church has put it, putting sin to death, certainly not persistently engaged in gross anti-Spirt, anti-love, anti-Christ activity, which He gives you the power now to triumph over.
"Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work." 1 John 3:7-8

Being obedient, righteous, holy, is not returning to the law. You can now be all those things, in truth, without regard to the law, whether or not you even know that the law testifies to them, IOW (Rom 3:21). We're not asked to be schizophrenic in our faith.

Did you read post #669? Failure to know Christian history is failure to fully understand...Christianity.

 

[Clare73]

Ok, pretending to be righteous is anti-gospel though.
Jesus didn't die so you may continue or remain in your sins-just the opposite. There's nothing man can do about past sins but that's the past: we're forgiven of those and given a whole new life now: able to be slaves to righteousness instead of to sin (Rom 6).
Agreed
Oh I answered it, probably, more than once in one way or another. Did you read post #669?
Correct, so there's only one way to God, which is the way I've been continuously speaking of: obedience, but obedience by the Spirit, not by the Letter, the Spirit who gives life, the Spirit by whom you can put to death the deeds of the flesh-if we truly walk in Him.

According to Jesus the only way to God is through faith in Jesus: "No one comes to the Father except through me," (Jn 14:6)
faith in Jesus also being the only way to salvation (Eph :8-9).

Obedience comes after salvation, in one's Christian life.

 

[fhansen]

According to Jesus the only way to God is through faith in him:

"No one comes to the Father except through me." (Jn 14:6)

Yes! And so the only way you can live as a child of God should is by becoming one-through faith. Jesus gives us that faith; He reveals a God truly worth knowing, so that we may believe in, hope in, and love Him.
"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." John 17:3

 

[Clare73]

Correct, so there's only one way to God, which is the way I've been continuously speaking of: obedience, but obedience by the Spirit, not by the Letter, the Spirit who gives life, the Spirit by whom you can put to death the deeds of the flesh-if we truly walk in Him.

Yes! And so the only way you can live as a child of God should is by becoming one-through faith. Jesus gives us that faith; He reveals a God truly worth knowing, so that we may believe in, hope in, and love Him.
"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." John 17:3

So obedience is not the way to God, rather faith is the way to God.

Obedience is the result of faith, not the cause of it.

 

[fhansen]

So obedience is not the way to God, faith is the way to God.

Obedience is the result of faith, not the cause of it.

Exactly, because the only authentic way to obedience is by being with God. The whole point of the new covenant is to put us into that reconciled, just, relationship.
"Apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5

Now you are empowered to end up with Him eternally. No obedience will equal…no God. It begins, from our perspective, with the obedience of faith, itself a gift. Faith is the foundation of true righteousness, as it's the way to the Source, the font, of all righteousness.

So faith is not the equivalent of righteousness as if faith, alone, would meet that requirement, but is the means to it.

 

[Clare73]

Correct, so there's only one way to God, which is the way I've been continuously speaking of: obedience, but obedience by the Spirit, not by the Letter, the Spirit who gives life, the Spirit by whom you can put to death the deeds of the flesh-if we truly walk in Him.

"Apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5
Now you are empowered to end up with Him eternally. No obedience will equal,...no God. It begins, from our perspective, with the obedience of faith, itself a gift. Faith is the foundation of true righteousness, as it's the way to the Source, the font, of all righteousness.
So faith is not the equivalent of righteousness as if faith, alone, would meet that requirement, but is the means to it.

Faith is the "equivalent" of forgiveness of sin, which is forensic righteousness (justification, sin free), but not actual righteousness of character.

Actual righteousness of character (sanctification) is through obedience in the Holy Spirit in one's Christian life.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Yes! And so the only way you can live as a child of God should is by becoming one-through faith. Jesus gives us that faith; He reveals a God truly worth knowing, so that we may believe in, hope in, and love Him.
"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." John 17:3

Exactly, because the only authentic way to obedience is by being with God. The whole point of the new covenant is to put us into that reconciled, just, relationship.
"Apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5

Now you are empowered to end up with Him eternally. No obedience will equal,...no God. It begins, from our perspective, with the obedience of faith, itself a gift. Faith is the foundation of true righteousness, as it's the way to the Source, the font, of all righteousness.

So faith is not the equivalent of righteousness as if faith, alone, would meet that requirement, but is the means to it.

Wow, man! You sound almost Reformed here! Faith IS given by God! Congratulations!

 

[ladodgers6]

Actually, the law was not given to make righteous to salvation, it was given to reveal sin (Ro 3:20), for salvation is, and always has been only by faith in the promise (Ge 15:5, Seed, Jesus Christ, Gal 3:16).

Agreed, but Paul makes a firm statement in Galatian 3, right? That those who believe that salvation is earned through the Law by human works or effort, he quickly shuts this down, by saying that they have to keep the whole written Law or they are under a curse, for not keeping it. Paul then juxtaposition between Law & Gospel or the Debt (Works) owed vs the Free Gift (Promise). That it is evident that no one is justified through the Law; by their works or efforts, period. But the Law will give life if one can fulfill it with perfect obedience without a single blemish of sin.

Adam in the Covenant of Works in the Garden Temple he was to provide Obedience and enter Sabbath Rest (Eternal Kingdom/The Heavens of Heaven/The Highest Heaven) with God in fellowship and worship God forever. But He broke this Covenant with One Act of disobedience. Which brought the curse of God upon all his progeny. So, now the way is not through the Law, which only condemns us all, but through the Proclamation of the Free Promise given in Christ received through Faith Alone apart from works of the Law.

The law which is preached to sinners; if done correctly, must expose sinners of their sinful condition before a Holy God and tremble in fear because of it. Then the Gospel must be offered of the Free Gift of Christ to those who receive him through Faith Alone! He has accomplished what we could never do, and fulfilled the broken Covenant of Works that the Adam breached, by His active/passive obedience. This is called the Covenant of Grace.​

 

[fhansen]

Faith is the "equivalent" of forgiveness of sin, which is forensic righteousness (justification, sin free), but not actual righteousness of character.

Actual righteousness of character (sanctification) is through obedience in the Holy Spirit in one's Christian life.

No, that’s not quite the gospel. Faith is to become a child of God, now in agreement and right standing with Him with all that implies including forgiveness of sins and being made new creations, with His seed now implanted in you. So the new covenant prophecy of Jer 31:

“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”

That is what your righteousness consists of, what it means to be under grace. To the extent that you remain in Him, then more faith, along with hope and love will take root and blossom from that seed, producing much good fruit. Love, primarily, is the source of right living and doing good which is necessary in order for you to be saved. If you find that you are not living righteously and growing in it then you've already turned back away from God and His gift of love, failing to remain in Him, which the bible clearly states is possible for a believer.

Again, as has been taught historically by the church, justification and sanctification are part and parcel of the same thing, with sanctification being the continuation of growth in the justice/righteousness received. And we must cooperate with this grace:

“Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.” Heb 12:14

 

[fhansen]

Wow, man! You sound almost Reformed here! Faith IS given by God! Congratulations!

Congratulations? The church has taught this from the beginning! As with any gift however, we can reject it, or we can receive it for a while and spit it back out after having tasted of it. But...if we embrace and act upon it, much fruit will be produced.

 

[Clare73]

Agreed, but Paul makes a firm statement in Galatian 3, right? That those who believe that salvation is earned through the Law by human works or effort, he quickly shuts this down, by saying that they have to keep the whole written Law or they are under a curse, for not keeping it. Paul then juxtaposition between Law & Gospel or the Debt (Works) owed vs the Free Gift (Promise). That it is evident that no one is justified through the Law; by their works or efforts, period. But the Law will give life if one can fulfill it with perfect obedience without a single blemish of sin.​

The law was not given to justify, it was given as a way of human life pleasing to God (Lev 18:5).

The law is about human life, not spiritual life.
Faith is about spiritual life. . .and unbelief is about spiritual death.
The blessing of the law for obedience is immortality--human life. . .and the curse of the law for disobedience is mortality--human death.

Perfect observance of the law would result in no human death, it would not result in no spiritual death (i.e., salvation--eternal life).
Salvation since Abraham in Genesis has been by faith only (Ge 15:5-6, Ro 4:1-5), not by law keeping.
The Mosaic law was not added (Gal 3:19) to the Abrahamic covenant for the sake of righteousness to salvation, which was already by faith only.
The Law was added to reveal sin (Ro 3:20), to show its nature as spiritual defilement.

Law keeping has never been for salvation, for salvation has always been by faith (Ge 15:5-6, Ro 4:1-5).

 

[setst777]

In the Reformed, a sinner who is justified by Faith Alone apart from works of the Law; or any works for that matter; which also includes repentance. A sinner is not justified before God by his repentance, a sinner who believes in him who justifies the (UNGODLY) through Faith Alone apart from their activity & efforts. Now once the sinner is justified they walk in the Spirit in newness of life to do good works; but not to earn Salvation, but because these are the fruits of Salvation. Big difference. Because even as a believer they continue to sin everyday. Unless you are suggesting a believer is completely sinless and does not sin at all; meaning they are 100% holy and without sin?

This is why it is crucial when a sinner is converted to a believer that as a believer we always look yo Christ and him crucified. And to be his disciple we must deny ourselves and follow him. But this sir is not a easy task, because the Spirit is raging war against the flesh and vice versa.​

That "Reformed" teach that repentance is inseparable from faith by which God saves us. Prominent Reformed leaders have emphasized this connection in their writings and teachings. I quote a reputable Reformed source, "The Ligonier," on this very thing:

"Along with the apostles, the Protestant Reformers knew that the biblical understanding of justification would meet such objections. This is one reason why Luther, Calvin, and the other magisterial Reformers were always careful to emphasize the importance of repentance in conjunction with faith. In doing so, they echo the many places in the New Testament where repentance and faith are both enumerated as necessary for salvation (for example, Acts 2:38).

Faith and repentance can be distinguished for the sake of instruction. However, they can never be separated. Indeed, if faith is the utter reliance upon Christ alone for salvation one cannot have true faith unless he turns away from sin in heartfelt sorrow. Without repentance, a person really hopes in his own “goodness” and in the fleeting pleasures of sin instead of God’s provision in Christ."

Faith and Repentance | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org

Ligonier Ministries, founded by R.C. Sproul, exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible.

www.ligonier.org

As I read through the writings of the Reformed leaders, the Reformed position maintains that true faith inherently includes repentance, and both are essential for salvation. The debates within Reformed Tradition typically focuses on the nuances of their relationship rather than a fundamental disagreement on their inseparability. Therefore, your view regarding repentance is not Reformed teaching, as you stated.

The Scriptures teach us that, unless a person repents of their sins, faith is meaningless and unacceptable to God - the wrath of God remains on those who refuse to repent.

Romans 2:3-4 (WEB)
3 Do you think this, O man who judges those who practice such things, and do the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of his goodness, forbearance, and patience, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you for/to/into [Greek: eis] repentance? 5 But according to your hardness and unrepentant heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath. . .

Apostle Paul disagrees with you.

2 Corinthians 7:10 (WEB) 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance for/to/into [Greek: eis] salvation, which brings no regret. But the sorrow of the world produces death.

Acts 26:19-20 (WEB) 19 “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but declared first to them of Damascus, at Jerusalem, and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn [convert] to God, doing works worthy of repentance.

The Apostle Peter disagrees with you.

Acts 2:28 (WEB) 38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for/to/into [Greek: eis] for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted [turned], that your sins may be blotted out

2 Peter 3:9 (WEB) The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some count slowness; but he is patient with us, not wishing that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Lord Jesus disagrees with you.

Luke 24:46-47 (WEB) 46 “So it is written, and so it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for/to/into [Greek: eis] the forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

Luke 5:32 (WEB) "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners for/to/into [Greek: eis] repentance."

God the Father disagrees with you.

Acts 17:30 Now God commands all people everywhere to repent, 31 because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead.

Pastor John MacArthur disagrees with you.

John MacArthur preached about a "faith" that always includes repentance by which God saves us.

What Is Biblical Repentance?

Repentance is no more a meritorious work than its counterpart, faith. It is an inward response. Genuine repentance pleads with the Lord to forgive...

www.gty.org

In that sense, John McArthur would be teaching about a "Faith" that is Biblical, while your view is anti-Biblical; in that, you reject God the Father, Lord Jesus, the Apostle Paul, and the Apostle Peter who all plainly instruct us that, without repentance, our sins remain, and we have no salvation.

 

[Clare73]

No, that’s not quite the gospel. Faith is to become a child of God,

The sovereign new birth by the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-8) is the becoming a child of God (Jn 1:12-13).
The new birth results in faith, whereby one is saved from God's judgment on one's sin: Eph 2:8-9 - "You are saved by faith. "
Saved (salvation) is the forgiveness of sin by faith in the (blood, Ro 3:25) atoning death of Jesus Christ, whereby
one is declared sin free by God in justification.

 

[Mark Quayle]

That "Reformed" teach that repentance is inseparable from faith by which God saves us. Prominent Reformed leaders have emphasized this connection in their writings and teachings. I quote a reputable Reformed source, "The Ligonier," on this very thing:

"Along with the apostles, the Protestant Reformers knew that the biblical understanding of justification would meet such objections. This is one reason why Luther, Calvin, and the other magisterial Reformers were always careful to emphasize the importance of repentance in conjunction with faith. In doing so, they echo the many places in the New Testament where repentance and faith are both enumerated as necessary for salvation (for example, Acts 2:38).

Faith and repentance can be distinguished for the sake of instruction. However, they can never be separated. Indeed, if faith is the utter reliance upon Christ alone for salvation one cannot have true faith unless he turns away from sin in heartfelt sorrow. Without repentance, a person really hopes in his own “goodness” and in the fleeting pleasures of sin instead of God’s provision in Christ."

Faith and Repentance | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org

Ligonier Ministries, founded by R.C. Sproul, exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible.

www.ligonier.org

As I read through the writings of the Reformed leaders, the Reformed position maintains that true faith inherently includes repentance, and both are essential for salvation. The debates within Reformed Tradition typically focuses on the nuances of their relationship rather than a fundamental disagreement on their inseparability. Therefore, your view regarding repentance is not Reformed teaching, as you stated.

The Scriptures teach us that, unless a person repents of their sins, faith is meaningless and unacceptable to God - the wrath of God remains on those who refuse to repent.

Romans 2:3-4 (WEB)
3 Do you think this, O man who judges those who practice such things, and do the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of his goodness, forbearance, and patience, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you for/to/into [Greek: eis] repentance? 5 But according to your hardness and unrepentant heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath. . .

Apostle Paul disagrees with you.

2 Corinthians 7:10 (WEB) 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance for/to/into [Greek: eis] salvation, which brings no regret. But the sorrow of the world produces death.

Acts 26:19-20 (WEB) 19 “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but declared first to them of Damascus, at Jerusalem, and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn [convert] to God, doing works worthy of repentance.

The Apostle Peter disagrees with you.

Acts 2:28 (WEB) 38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for/to/into [Greek: eis] for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted [turned], that your sins may be blotted out

2 Peter 3:9 (WEB) The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some count slowness; but he is patient with us, not wishing that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Lord Jesus disagrees with you.

Luke 24:46-47 (WEB) 46 “So it is written, and so it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for/to/into [Greek: eis] the forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

Luke 5:32 (WEB) "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners for/to/into [Greek: eis] repentance."

God the Father disagrees with you.

Acts 17:30 Now God commands all people everywhere to repent, 31 because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead.

Pastor John MacArthur disagrees with you.

John MacArthur preached about a "faith" that always includes repentance by which God saves us.

What Is Biblical Repentance?

Repentance is no more a meritorious work than its counterpart, faith. It is an inward response. Genuine repentance pleads with the Lord to forgive...

www.gty.org

In that sense, John McArthur would be teaching about a "Faith" that is Biblical, while your view is anti-Biblical; in that, you reject God the Father, Lord Jesus, the Apostle Paul, and the Apostle Peter who all plainly instruct us that, without repentance, our sins remain, and we have no salvation.

I don't see how the truth of the scriptures, nor the Reformed doctrine concerning faith and salvation, differ from what @ladodgers6 said. He was emphasizing the difference between the faith and its necessary results —not at all denying the necessity of those results.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Congratulations? The church has taught this from the beginning! As with any gift however, we can reject it, or we can receive it for a while and spit it back out after having tasted of it. But...if we embrace and act upon it, much fruit will be produced.

AHHH! NOW comes the messy texture of your additions to the Gospel.

Where do the Scriptures teach that we can reject the gift of faith?