Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

[Bradskii]

Let the states decide is one thing but to place it in their constitution where future generations have to get an overwhelming majority is wrong. And I'll say that about the states that put in their constitutions that abortions should be banned. If the states are going to decide then make it so the law can be changed when the populous requires it.

As long as the people get what they want, then I have no problem with that.

 

[Desk trauma]

By shutting down the abortion clinics for be dirty. By coming down hard on abortionist doctors for any little violations. For jailing men who have gotten women pregnant and then seeking abortions. For jailing women who have had multiple abortions. And I sure the legislature could come up with better ideas.

All of which would run afoul of the constitution they swore to up hold.

 

[rjs330]

AND

The GOP makes its handouts to the rich and to corporations.

We certainly oppose that as well. If you make a loan you should pay it back, if you are a student or a corporation.

You know what would stop this nonsense would be to have the same rules for everyone. If corporations can claim bankruptcy, so should students. This might make it harder to get a student loan for things that won't make any money like art majors or gender studies majors. But things like engineering or medical, teaching etc would still get the loans. Maybe the universities would have to cut back on costs. Would that be something.

 

[rjs330]

Kansas votes to protect abortion rights in state constitution

Yay states rights.

Absolutely. Thats why it was done. Each state can make their own decisions. We certainly can disagree with them and make our opinions known, but ultimately it is up to the people in each state to decide, whether we agree or not.

 

[Desk trauma]

Absolutely. Thats why it was done. Each state can make their own decisions.

Until the republicans get the votes at the federal level, then all this states rights talk will end immediately.

 

[rjs330]

YOU ARE THE ONE CHANGING THE SUBJECT! I QUOTED ONE OF THE OTHER POSTERS and this is what I said:

Right now I am arguing against those 97% of abortions so stop bringing up that %3 (rape, incest, health of mother) TOO JUSTIFY THE OTHER 97%!!!

I've had this conversation with the left dar too.many times. None of them will agree to that. They bring it up, but if you say how about we allow for abortion for those three reasons and disallow the other 95% they will not agree to it. So they are most certainly being disingenuous with their argument.

 

[Bradskii]

You know when Florida started these voter referendums on the ballets, I saw trouble a brewing. I don't know if you are a Trump supporter or not but look how many people are voting for him.

But he supports it. Is his position going to lose him your vote (assuming you were going to vote for him anyway).

 

[Belk]

You know, I may not fully agree with the way I supposedly responded to you but "you just can't handle the truth". The Pro-Life movement helps those people out as much as they can through programs such as Project Rachel, Catholic Charities, Help For Moms, and almost every Christian denomination has some form of crisis pregnancy help for women. Democratics, Planned Parenthoods and NOW's solutions are kill the unborn baby.

You truly don't understand how disgusting of a practice abortion is. That's why we continue to argue against pro-abortion points and yes, we get ticked off sometimes because pro-abortionist are so so blind in what they want. We are not belittling you - you are belittling yourselves with your pro-abortion stance. You are supporting the ripping apart of a truly innocent human being. Wake up!!!

There are many things I find disgusting. I feel no need to outlaw them. I find your claims of us "belittling" ourselves less then convincing as I do not have blind reasons. Just like those on the pro choice side have good reasons. I used to be pro choice so I know you have good reasons. I just have come to a different conclusion after further consideration. Unfortunately I am not allowed to articulate that reasoning on this site.

 

[Belk]

For 50 years, Americans allowed the slaughter of unborn children up to the 9th month and Democrats did absolutely nothing to curve the appetite of this destructive process. Now that the law has sway a tiny bit better for the unborn child, those who want further restrictions on abortion are called extremists and the pro-abortion advocates whine and whine and whine. A child is being ripped to pieces or melted down in some horrible solution. What a bunch of (I was going to use the word barbarians but out of respect for our good friend The Barbarian I won't) "fill in the blank with some vile word".

No, they did not "allow the slaughter up to nine months. " Hyperbole does not give your arguments extra weight. If anything it diminishes their impact.

 

[Jipsah]

Who needs a republic when you have an emperor waiting in the wings.

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Don't worry, I don't think she'll win.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

All of which would run afoul of the constitution they swore to up hold.

It's been done in the past and it can be done again for some of my points above.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

There are many things I find disgusting. I feel no need to outlaw them. I find your claims of us "belittling" ourselves less then convincing as I do not have blind reasons. Just like those on the pro choice side have good reasons. I used to be pro choice so I know you have good reasons. I just have come to a different conclusion after further consideration. Unfortunately I am not allowed to articulate that reasoning on this site.

Why don't you think disgusting things shouldn't be outlawed? And I mean truly disgusting things not just things you disagree with or dislike such religion, republicans, taxes, ingrown toenails... I'm talking about major things that pretty much everybody can see they are disgusting - rape, murder, incest, identity theft, abuse of a child, a woman, an elderly person and mutilating a child before he or she is born. It's like we can go down that list and agree all those are disgusting except when we get to abortion then pro-abortionist supporters' brains go goofy and they think it's okay to kill an unborn child. You people make absolutely no sense.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

But he supports it. Is his position going to lose him your vote (assuming you were going to vote for him anyway).

I've voted 3rd party for president since 2016.

 

[RileyG]

Don't worry, I don't think she'll win.

I pray and hope not.

 

[Bradskii]

I've voted 3rd party for president since 2016.

Fair enough. Do you mind telling me who is going to get your vote?

 

[Hvizsgyak]

No, they did not "allow the slaughter up to nine months. " Hyperbole does not give your arguments extra weight. If anything it diminishes their impact.

Check the facts:

Quick Facts You Should Know About Roe v. Wade (Published 2022)

A short history of the landmark case.

www.nytimes.com

Up until 1992, third trimester abortions were allowed to ensure the health of the mother.

Answering the CBS Fact Checkers on Abortion

The subject of abortion came up in the third and final presidential debate last week and the “fact checkers” have come out to say late-term abortion is an overb...

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Abortion & Infanticide LIES (Trump-Harris Debate REBUTTED)

In this episode, Trent rebuts lies and distortions about abortion and infanticide in the Trump-Harris Presidential Debate. Transcription: Trent: Last night I wa...

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Five Myths About Roe v. Wade

Click here and learn how to respond to five myths that defenders of legal abortion routinely peddle in order to legitimize this Supreme Court ruling.

www.catholic.com

 

[Hvizsgyak]

Fair enough. Do you mind telling me who is going to get your vote?

You should ask Desk Trauma, he knows who I'm voting for . And he says no third party will ever make the grade.

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The American Solidarity Party’s 2024 Presidential Ticket!​

 

[Belk]

Why don't you think disgusting things shouldn't be outlawed? And I mean truly disgusting things not just things you disagree with or dislike such religion, republicans, taxes, ingrown toenails... I'm talking about major things that pretty much everybody can see they are disgusting - rape, murder, incest, identity theft, abuse of a child, a woman, an elderly person and mutilating a child before he or she is born. It's like we can go down that list and agree all those are disgusting except when we get to abortion then pro-abortionist supporters' brains go goofy and they think it's okay to kill an unborn child. You people make absolutely no sense.

Because those things have actual reasons to not allow them. "Disgusting" is not a reason it is an emotional reaction. The irony of using emotion instead of reason and then claim we make no sense.

 

[Belk]

Check the facts:

Quick Facts You Should Know About Roe v. Wade (Published 2022)

A short history of the landmark case.

www.nytimes.com

Up until 1992, third trimester abortions were allowed to ensure the health of the mother.

Answering the CBS Fact Checkers on Abortion

The subject of abortion came up in the third and final presidential debate last week and the “fact checkers” have come out to say late-term abortion is an overb...

www.catholic.com

Abortion & Infanticide LIES (Trump-Harris Debate REBUTTED)

In this episode, Trent rebuts lies and distortions about abortion and infanticide in the Trump-Harris Presidential Debate. Transcription: Trent: Last night I wa...

www.catholic.com

Five Myths About Roe v. Wade

Click here and learn how to respond to five myths that defenders of legal abortion routinely peddle in order to legitimize this Supreme Court ruling.

www.catholic.com

Uh huh?

 

[RileyG]

Because those things have actual reasons to not allow them. "Disgusting" is not a reason it is an emotional reaction. The irony of using emotion instead of reason and then claim we make no sense.

It’s disgusting because it ends a life.

Should they elaborate more?