Tim Walz's Approval Rating Surges as JD Vance's Falls

[loveofourlord]

I should be? They only happen when the woman is about to die? How do you know that? Wait they are emergencies? I thought doctors were incapable of determining what an emergency is.

Becauae I'm certainly for allowing abortions for emergencies. But I've been told numerous times that doctors can't determine what an emergency is.

Given that some hospitals particularly catholic have a history of issues doing them, and how drachonian many of these are. And we know by the statistics, I know the right doesn't like facts, but you can look them up.

The issue becomes cases where the baby will highly likely die, like that one in Ireland I think it was, but the womans life isn't in danger till then, they risk falling foul of doing the abortion too soon, even though the baby will be dead before birth. or other such things.

In post-Roe America, women detail agony of being forced to carry nonviable pregnancies to term

ABC News interviewed 18 women as part of the series "On the Brink" about abortion in America after Roe v. Wade was overturned.

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[rjs330]

Dana Bash interviewed JD Vance (alone) on August 11th.

He's part of the Trump team isn't he?

Trump also had an interview with the NAJB panel which had interviewers from several.dufferent news sources even though not CNN. He and Vance had taken more questions from the press than Harris and taken more time.

He's had a Bloomberg interview etc. Harris and Walz has had nothing until today. I wonder how many more they will.dodge?.

 

[Deborah1$]

Maybe if Vance only concerned himself about his own wife's reproductive abilities and stopped trying to regulate/dictate/criticize/control other women's rights, his ratings would come up. Women do consider it weird that he seems overly concerned with female reproductive capabilities fitting into a mold he created as though his views were the only ones that mattered.

 

[rjs330]

Given that some hospitals particularly catholic have a history of issues doing them, and how drachonian many of these are. And we know by the statistics, I know the right doesn't like facts, but you can look them up.

The issue becomes cases where the baby will highly likely die, like that one in Ireland I think it was, but the womans life isn't in danger till then, they risk falling foul of doing the abortion too soon, even though the baby will be dead before birth. or other such things.

In post-Roe America, women detail agony of being forced to carry nonviable pregnancies to term

ABC News interviewed 18 women as part of the series "On the Brink" about abortion in America after Roe v. Wade was overturned.

abcnews.go.com

So apparently now doctors CAN determine if something is an emergency? So the womans life isn't in danger as you claimed?

As I said, I certainly support protecting the mother if her life is in danger. I have no issues with that. Partial.borth abortions aren't emergencies to save the mothers life.

Those rhat support killing other humans for convenience sake should be run out of town.

 

[rjs330]

Maybe if Vance only concerned himself about his own wife's reproductive abilities and stopped trying to regulate/dictate/criticize/control other women's rights, his ratings would come up. Women do consider it weird that he seems overly concerned with female reproductive capabilities fitting into a mold he created as though his views were the only ones that mattered.

It's quite weird that people are more concerned about someone convenience than they are about human lives.

 

[BPPLEE]

He's part of the Trump team isn't he?

Trump also had an interview with the NAJB panel which had interviewers from several.dufferent news sources even though not CNN. He and Vance had taken more questions from the press than Harris and taken more time.

He's had a Bloomberg interview etc. Harris and Walz has had nothing until today. I wonder how many more they will.dodge?.

Her interview today didn't go over like they thought it would

 

[Deborah1$]

It's quite weird that people are more c oncerned about someone's convenience than they are about human lives.
Answer: All abortions aren't about convenience. What's convenient about a child being sexually molested and impregnated and forced to carry that child, as though a child would even know what to do with a baby. What's convenient about a woman being raped and forced to carry a rapist's child? I'm not in favor of abortion; I'm in favor of people minding their own business and the government not having a say in the decision. That decision should rest with the woman and her God. I know of a case where the woman killed herself because of that situation. Until we walk in someone else's shoes, we need to do as the Apostle Paul advises: 1 Thessalonians 4:11: "Stay calm; mind yout own business.

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[rjs330]

It's quite weird that people are more c oncerned about someone's convenience than they are about human lives.
Answer: All abortions aren't about convenience. What's convenient about a child being sexually molested and impregnated and forced to carry that child, as though a child would even know what to do with a baby. What's convenient about a woman being raped and forced to carry a rapist's child? I'm not in favor of abortion; I'm in favor of people minding their own business and the government not having a say in the decision. That decision should rest with the woman and her God. I know of a case where the woman killed herself because of that situation. Until we walk in someone else's shoes, we need to do as the Apostle Paul advises: 1 Thessalonians 4:11: "Stay calm; mind yout own business.

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You aren't trying to trot out that old mantel are you? Let me ask you this. Are you in favor of eliminating 90-95% of abortions? Because rhat about how many are due to convenience sake.

We certainly wouldn't say mind your own business for anything else that caused the purposeful death of another human being.

Or mind your own business when a husband abuses his wife.

 

[Deborah1$]

Old mantel????? Dude, what planet do you live on? This happens every day, women and young girls being raped and assaulted and inpregnated, more often than is reported. Maybe on Earth-2 where you live, such things don't happen. But here on regular Earth, it happens far too frequently (I've worked with survivors). The mere fact that you would flippantly print such a remark tells me all I need to know about you.

 

[rjs330]

Old mantel????? Dude, what planet do you live on? This happens every day, women and young girls being raped and assaulted and inpregnated, more often than is reported. Maybe on Earth-2 where you live, such things don't happen. But here on regular Earth, it happens far too frequently (I've worked with survivors). The mere fact that you would flippantly print such a remark tells me all I need to know about you.

Yes old mantra like rape and incest justifies the 95% of abortions that occur unrelated to tape and incest. Does rape and incest justify the killing of the other 95% in your mind? Out of a 1000 abortions only 100 is a result of rape, incest or medical emergencies. That means 900 others were killed for convenience. Are you okay with that?

Yes rape and incest happen far too frequently. You can blame the justice system for some of that. To continue to trot out rape and incest is typically done by those to justify the other 900 out of a thousand.

Did you happen to catch tye party of deaths abortions bus at the DNC?

 

[Deborah1$]

Women don't need to justify to you or anyone else what they do with their very own bodies. That's between a woman and her God. Do you jistify your personal choices to other people? Since you're not sitting on the throne, you don't get the right to dictate how someone else lives. You don't need nor expect my input into any aspect of your life, nor would I ever consider it my business to tell you how to conduct your life. You're not feeding nor clothing nor caring for that child once you demand it gets here. i.e., mind your own business.

 

[BPPLEE]

Women don't need to justify to you or anyone else what they do with their very own bodies. That's between a woman and her God. Do you jistify your personal choices to other people? Since you're not sitting on the throne, you don't get the right to dictate how someone else lives. You don't need nor expect my input into any aspect of your life, nor would I ever consider it my business to tell you how to conduct your life. You're not feeding nor clothing nor caring for that child once you demand it gets here. i.e., mind your own business.

Then don't tell him what to think, you wouldn't do such a thing so why are you doing it?

 

[rjs330]

Women don't need to justify to you or anyone else what they do with their very own bodies.

No they don't. They just need to justify what they do to another human life, like killing it.

That's between a woman and her God.

Killing another human isn't just between Gid and man. That why we have laws against that. Did you not think about that?

Do you jistify your personal choices to other people?

I would expect to have to if I took another human beings life.

Since you're not sitting on the throne, you don't get the right to dictate how someone else lives.

Do you think that's really my point?

You don't need nor expect my input into any aspect of your life, nor would I ever consider it my business to tell you how to conduct your life.

I think.you would if I was abusing my children.

You're not feeding nor clothing nor caring for that child once you demand it gets here. i.e., mind your own business.

So because a parent has to to feed or cloth a child you believe that's a good reason kill it?

May I quote someone in this board?

"The mere fact that you would flippantly print such a remark tells me all I need to know about you."

 

[Deborah1$]

No they don't. They just need to justify what they do to another human life, like killing it.

Killing another human isn't just between Gid and man. That why we have laws against that. Did you not think about that?



I would expect to have to if I took another human beings life.



Do you think that's really my point?

I think.you would if I was abusing my children.



So because a parent has to to feed or cloth a child you believe that's a good reason kill it?

May I quote someone in this board?

"The mere fact that you would flippantly print such a remark tells me all I need to know about you."

No they don't. They just need to justify what they do to another human life, like killing it.

Killing another human isn't just between Gid and man. That why we have laws against that. Did you not think about that?



I would expect to have to if I took another human beings life.



Do you think that's really my point?

I think.you would if I was abusing my children.



So because a parent has to to feed or cloth a child you believe that's a good reason kill it?

May I quote someone in this board?

"The mere fact that you would flippantly print such a remark tells me all I need to know about you."

Then don't tell him what to think, you wouldn't do such a thing so why are you doing it?

You're absolutely right. There is no concensus, so this discussion is a waste of time, energy and emotions. He has his opinions and I have mine. We obviously will never agree....... and that's ok. It is not the end of the world. His heart is with the unborn. My heart bleeds for children who are already here, traffiked, molested, abused, assaulted, homeless. Kids with no idea where their next meal is coming from. They're not a pretty site and they ache in ways people can't comprehend. Until you've worked with them, you have no idea of their suffering. So we will agree to disagree. And again, it's ok.

 

[BPPLEE]

You're absolutely right. There is no concensus, so this discussion is a waste of time, energy and emotions. He has his opinions and I have mine. We obviously will never agree....... and that's ok. It is not the end of the world. His heart is with the unborn. My heart bleeds for children who are already here, traffiked, molested, abused, assaulted, homeless. Kids with no idea where their next meal is coming from. They're not a pretty site and they ache in ways people can't comprehend. Until you've worked with them, you have no idea of their suffering. So we will agree to disagree. And again, it's ok.

Yes, they need to stop the trafficking that's going on at the border. It's terrible what's happening to the kids.

 

[rjs330]

Women don't need to justify to you or anyone else what they do with their very own bodies.

No they don't. They just need to justify what they do to another human life, like killing it.

That's between a woman and her God.

Killing another human isn't just between God and man. Thats why we have laws against that. Did you not think about that?

You don't need nor expect my input into any aspect of your life, nor would I ever consider it my business to tell you how to conduct your life. You're not feeding nor clothing nor caring for that child once you demand it gets here. i.e., mind your own business.

I moat certainly would expect you to tell me how to conduct my life if I was abusing my wife or children. You should.

I have zero.problems.with helping people feed or clothe their kids. I mean we do have those programs. Concern over feeding and clothing the child is a very very bad reason to kill the child.

 

[rjs330]

Dp

 

[BPPLEE]

No they don't. They just need to justify what they do to another human life, like killing it.

Killing another human isn't just between God and man. Thats why we have laws against that. Did you not think about that?

I moat certainly would expect you to tell me how to conduct my life if I was abusing my wife or children. You should.

I have zero.problems.with helping people feed or clothe their kids. I mean we do have those programs. Concern over feeding and clothing the child is a very very bad reason to kill the child.

So some children would be better off dead? Is that their position?

 

[rjs330]

You're absolutely right. There is no concensus, so this discussion is a waste of time, energy and emotions. He has his opinions and I have mine. We obviously will never agree....... and that's ok. It is not the end of the world. His heart is with the unborn. My heart bleeds for children who are already here, traffiked, molested, abused, assaulted, homeless. Kids with no idea where their next meal is coming from. They're not a pretty site and they ache in ways people can't comprehend. Until you've worked with them, you have no idea of their suffering. So we will agree to disagree. And again, it's ok.

I think there is a deep disconnect with many. I see it in your post. You are right that my heart is for the unborn. You say your heart us for the children whonare already here. It makes it sound like those who are for the unborn don't care as much for the kids who are here.

One can have a heart for both. One does not have to exclude the other. One that is for eliminating 90% of the abortions can also be for the kids who are here. So many on rhe left (and I do t know own if that's you or not), make the assumptions that conservatives only care for the unborn. Yet conservatives give far more money out if their own pockets than the left to help families and children. I donate to underground railroad group that rescues trafficked kids. I support harsh laws and penalties for those who abuse kids. I've been a foster parent.

I know.conservative families who have adopted foster kids. One of my foster kids was adopted by one.

We support helping families. There are pregnancy caring centers who help mothers for two years after they give birth. All from donations and money from conservatives pockets. This country spends about 75% of its budget on welfare programs. And we could have discussions all day if they are doing it right.

Children are being trafficked across our southern border because it's so open thanks to the Democrats.

Conservatives want to help the born and the unborn. While the left only seems to care about the born due to the policies that support the killing of unborn humans for 90% of the time over convenience sake.

And yet for all their so called caring, what has Biden and Harris actually done these last four years to help the living kids? Under their watch they've made it even more difficult for families to live. What programs have they provided to really help the struggling families, stop abuse or trafficking across the border or provide food for those kids you say don't know where their next meal is coming from?

 

[Deborah1$]

I think there is a deep disconnect with many. I see it in your post. You are right that my heart is for the unborn. You say your heart us for the children whonare already here. It makes it sound like those who are for the unborn don't care as much for the kids who are here.

One can have a heart for both. One does not have to exclude the other. One that is for eliminating 90% of the abortions can also be for the kids who are here. So many on rhe left (and I do t know own if that's you or not), make the assumptions that conservatives only care for the unborn. Yet conservatives give far more money out if their own pockets than the left to help families and children. I donate to underground railroad group that rescues trafficked kids. I support harsh laws and penalties for those who abuse kids. I've been a foster parent.

I know.conservative families who have adopted foster kids. One of my foster kids was adopted by one.

We support helping families. There are pregnancy caring centers who help mothers for two years after they give birth. All from donations and money from conservatives pockets. This country spends about 75% of its budget on welfare programs. And we could have discussions all day if they are doing it right.

Children are being trafficked across our southern border because it's so open thanks to the Democrats.

Conservatives want to help the born and the unborn. While the left only seems to care about the born due to the policies that support the killing of unborn humans for 90% of the time over convenience sake.

And yet for all their so called caring, what has Biden and Harris actually done these last four years to help the living kids? Under their watch they've made it even more difficult for families to live. What programs have they provided to really help the struggling families, stop abuse or trafficking across the border or provide food for those kids you say don't know where their next meal is coming from?

Posting our great, loving deeds on an anonymous message board is far too easy. It has become the national pastime of this country. Problem is, no one will every know the truth or veracity of the matter, because again, it's anonymous and no one knows if what you say is the truth or some fictitious response you made up in order to sound noble. I don't know you and you could post anything you want on here, but it doesn't make it true just because you posted. We agree to disagree. I'm not "the left." I'm an independent and I see some reasonable policies on both sides. I' vote for policies in accordance with my beliefs. The border is far too porous and the immigration policy is in chaos having allowed only goodness knows "who" inside this country. Another 9/11 waiting to happen. I credit both sides with that fiasco. The left is far too progressive and I don't agree with a number of their policies; however, the right is far too rigid and judgmental and controlling and I don't agree with their policies on a number of things. Throwing around statements like the conservatives do x, y and z and are soooo family oriented is laughable. I'm the voter both sides need to impress and I don't see it from either side. I'd love to see all the evidence showcasing conservatives out there working like little beavers to help women and children. The only thing I see conservatives doing is setting up barriers to needed child care and denouncing women for not having children..... as if that should be the highlight of a woman's life. IF.... and that's a big IF.... you're helping children already here, good for you. I applaud your efforts, I really do. However, I'm done with this conversation with you. If you respond to this, let it be for the other readers and not for me because nothing you have said is going to change my mind or impress me - just like nothing I've said is going to change your mind or impress you. WE AGREE TO DISAGREE.