Silence In Heaven For Half An Hour

[jasmine_childoftheking]

It seems like the end time prophecy is a pretty popular topic. I know there are various opinions about how it’s going to occur, but that‘s besides the point.

I have wondered about that when the seventh seal is opened and there’s silence in Heaven for half an hour, what could that possibly mean? What would be the reason for that? Is there any possible theory what that might be?

 

[daq]

It seems like the end time prophecy is a pretty popular topic. I know there are various opinions about how it’s going to occur, but that‘s besides the point.

I have wondered about that when the seventh seal is opened and there’s silence in Heaven for half an hour, what could that possibly mean? What would be the reason for that? Is there any possible theory what that might be?

It's a calendar reference, (the sacred calendar day), because it is either a morning or an evening oblation and one of those same times of the incense offering, which times are concurrent with the morning and evening hours of prayer. The half hour before the incense offering is a half hour of silent prayer, (see Luke 1:9-10). The context tells us that it speaks of one of the hours of prayer, (the prayers of the holy ones mixed with incense ascend before Elohim by the hand of the Angel at the altar, Rev 8:3-4).

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I believe the seventh seal contains the 7 trumpets. I think the half hour is the angels getting ready to blow their trumpets.

Rev 8:
1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

 

[Matt5]

Iran had the blood of saints on its hands - the 5th seal. It nuked Rome via nuclear terrorism. Europe and friends get revenge in the 6th seal. They wipe out Iran. Russia and China want revenge, but the Antichrist strikes first.

 

[RandyPNW]

It seems like the end time prophecy is a pretty popular topic. I know there are various opinions about how it’s going to occur, but that‘s besides the point.

I have wondered about that when the seventh seal is opened and there’s silence in Heaven for half an hour, what could that possibly mean? What would be the reason for that? Is there any possible theory what that might be?

Oh, I'd love to hear the answers to this one? I've wondered this all my life! God has answered many of my questions. I'm not sure He's given me much on this one?

Off the top of my head I might say that the half hour is simply a pause. It means something momentous is about to happen.

The main problems I see with people interpreting Revelation is that they think the sequence of events listed is a literal schedule of events, like an exact choreography of events to happen in future history in exact order. I don't find that to be the case at all.

In my view, we must read it like quick sketches using known symbols to represent various facets of Christ's 2nd Coming. Instead of seeing succeeding visions as a chronology of events we should see them as a multiplicity of separate visions, each of which has its own chronological sequence and picture of events surrounding Christ's Coming.

The half hour in heaven is not a literal half hour perhaps? It may just be the vision's way of saying the curtains came down while the props are being shifted for the next scene, none of which have to express a particular order of events in the play. Each scene may show something different, and several of the scenes may be talking about the same historical time period. There may be flashbacks or prolepsis (future events viewed as if they are happening now).

So in view of this, I see the half hour in heaven as being like the curtains coming down for a brief interlude--an intermission. It is not a real event, but only a prop indicating something about the event, namely an emphasis on the importance heaven holds for the upcoming events. It is valuable as a prop, but not symbolizing an actual historical reality. It is God's way of saying, the coming of Christ is near and of critical importance to earth!

So we need to be flexible when reading the book of Revelation. The visions are designed to instruct us in watchfulness, alertneses, and attentiveness to moral/spiritual issues that concern the Church in the NT era, particularly as we approach final issues in our lives. Just as our individual lives have critical junctures that determine our eternal future so the earth will have critical junctures in which its history will be settled for all time.

Normally, I try to link passages like this to other precedents in other places in the Bible. I'm not sure where to look for this one?

 

[jasmine_childoftheking]

It sure sounds like an interesting discussion. I'm sure we'll find out when it happens (we could even be in Heaven ourselves). Being part of the silence in Heaven for half an hour could be quite an experience.

 

[Jamdoc]

It seems like the end time prophecy is a pretty popular topic. I know there are various opinions about how it’s going to occur, but that‘s besides the point.

I have wondered about that when the seventh seal is opened and there’s silence in Heaven for half an hour, what could that possibly mean? What would be the reason for that? Is there any possible theory what that might be?

Jesus does something nobody expects Him to do. He leaves heaven alone.

The 6th seal, unbelievers on Earth are saying to hide them from the FACE of Him who sits on the throne. IE they see Him. They wouldn't believe unless they saw.
Revelation 7, suddenly a huge number of people all praising God and the Lamb (so 2 people)

Now go to Revelation 19.
They praise God on the throne only, they aren't praising the Lamb. These saints in heaven are cheering on as judgement is being poured out on the Earth so no the silence is not in any sort of sympathy regarding the judgements in the 5th seal the saints are BEGGING for the judgements and wrath of God.
Anyway Revelation 19 they aren't worshipping 2 people but just 1, God on the Throne, that is God the Father.
They talk about the Lamb, but never actually worship Him.
He's not seen until the heavens open, and when He is seen after the heavens are opened (and John is in Heaven when this happens, not on Earth looking up at the heavens opening and Jesus riding pegasus down, popular image, but I think wrong)..... and His clothes are dipped in blood.

where's the blood from?

Isaiah 63:

1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

Point 1, this is Jesus, mighty to save, and He is coming from an Earthly location, from Edom.

2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

Point 2, Jesus was alone treading the winepress of His wrath, and the blood His clothes are dipped in is not His own, not the Martyrs, or any other explanation people try to come up with for the blood in Revelation 19. It is the blood of His enemies that He slaughters after coming to Earth. (See Isaiah 34, particularly verse 6)

4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

This is the Day of the Lord being referred to, but also note that a year is used interchangeably here, it is also done like this in Isaiah 34.

5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.
7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.

And this all confirms the first 2 points, that Jesus treads the winepress of His wrath alone.

People have been taught Revelation 19 is the second coming for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Everyone is expecting Jesus to not leave heaven until after the trumpets and bowls.

But several things I've been shown in scripture.

Matthew 24

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Why is heaven silent for half an hour? because Jesus leaves it when unexpected.

2 Thessalonians 1

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

What mighty angels?
The ones who bear the trumpets.
What flaming fire?

Revelation 8

2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

That flaming fire.


sigh, I always mess up something in formatting.

 

[Larry H.]

It seems like the end time prophecy is a pretty popular topic. I know there are various opinions about how it’s going to occur, but that‘s besides the point.

I have wondered about that when the seventh seal is opened and there’s silence in Heaven for half an hour, what could that possibly mean? What would be the reason for that? Is there any possible theory what that might be?

It is not clear as to why this half hour took place, or even if for sure it is 1/2 hour according to man's time. Therefore, speculation could go in several directions. Though John did not specify why this time of silence, it clearly signified that with it, a time of no activity from heaven also took place, too. Going to a complete silence would show something very supernatural is going to take place once the 7th seal is open. That most likely being the blowing of the 7 trumpets and what each ushers in. We had the 7 warnings to the church, then the 7 seals which were worse than the 7 warnings. Rest assured the 7 trumpets are worse than the 7 seals. The 7th trumpet is followed by the reaping of the earth. Then there will be the 7 bowls of wrath which will be worse than the 7 trumpets. We've seen the same pattern as God brought His judgment on Egypt. As his judgment progressed the results worsened. We also see the same pattern of silence for the beginning of a supernatural event. Before Jesus was born, there was 400 years of silence from heaven.

 

[tailgator]

Iran had the blood of saints on its hands - the 5th seal. It nuked Rome via nuclear terrorism. Europe and friends get revenge in the 6th seal. They wipe out Iran. Russia and China want revenge, but the Antichrist strikes first.

I'm quite sure it's not Rome Iran would nuke if it had the chance.

 

[tailgator]

It's a calendar reference, (the sacred calendar day), because it is either a morning or an evening oblation and one of those same times of the incense offering, which times are concurrent with the morning and evening hours of prayer. The half hour before the incense offering is a half hour of silent prayer, (see Luke 1:9-10). The context tells us that it speaks of one of the hours of prayer, (the prayers of the holy ones mixed with incense ascend before Elohim by the hand of the Angel at the altar, Rev 8:3-4).

This sounds like the answer of someone who has paid attention .Makes me think I need to read the gospel again to see what else I've missed.

 

[daq]

This sounds like the answer of someone who has paid attention .Makes me think I need to read the gospel again to see what else I've missed.

The sacred calendar day consists of seven hours set in the midst of the twelve hour civil calendar day. The third hour of the civil calendar day is the first hour of prayer, (morning prayer time). The sixth hour of the civil calendar day is midday, the midday hour of prayer on the sacred calendar day, (see Acts 10:9), and that is the tzohorim hour, (see Amos 8:9, the word for noon or midday is tzohorim). The evening hour of prayer is the ninth hour of the civil calendar day, (see Acts 3:1 and Acts 10:3, and this is the hour of the evening oblation in Daniel 9:21).

However the sacred calendar hours of the day commence at the bottom of the hour, being offset so that the evening portion of the hour comes first, (the second half of the hour). This is because it is the calendar day of the opening creation account, so the evening portion of the hour comes first, commencing at the bottom of the hour, and that is the silent portion. It may help to see it laid out on a sundial drawing for the visual aspect because it is somewhat difficult to visualize, comprehend, and understand.

So from the (bottom of the) third hour to the (bottom of the) sixth hour is half the morning portion of the twelve hour civil calendar day, three hours. And from the (bottom of the) sixth hour to the (bottom of the) ninth hour there was darkness over all the land, three more hours, (six yamim-hours of the spoken Word creation from the beginning), and the next hour is the seventh and Shabbat hour of the sacred calendar day, from the bottom of the ninth hour to the bottom of the tenth hour, (evening to evening).

And who has despised the abbreviated day?
Yom is Light: the days have been shortened to hours, (the key to Daniel the Prophet).

 

[tailgator]

The sacred calendar day consists of seven hours set in the midst of the twelve hour civil calendar day. The third hour of the civil calendar day is the first hour of prayer, (morning prayer time). The sixth hour of the civil calendar day is midday, the midday hour of prayer on the sacred calendar day, (see Acts 10:9), and that is the tzohorim hour, (see Amos 8:9, the word for noon or midday is tzohorim). The evening hour of prayer is the ninth hour of the civil calendar day, (see Acts 3:1 and Acts 10:3, and this is the hour of the evening oblation in Daniel 9:21).

However the sacred calendar hours of the day commence at the bottom of the hour, being offset so that the evening portion of the hour comes first, (the second half of the hour). This is because it is the calendar day of the opening creation account, so the evening portion of the hour comes first, commencing at the bottom of the hour, and that is the silent portion. It may help to see it laid out on a sundial drawing for the visual aspect because it is somewhat difficult to visualize, comprehend, and understand.



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So from the (bottom of the) third hour to the (bottom of the) sixth hour is half the morning portion of the twelve hour civil calendar day, three hours. And from the (bottom of the) sixth hour to the (bottom of the) ninth hour there was darkness over all the land, three more hours, (six yamim-hours of the spoken Word creation from the beginning), and the next hour is the seventh and Shabbat hour of the sacred calendar day, from the bottom of the ninth hour to the bottom of the tenth hour, (evening to evening).

And who has despised the abbreviated day?
Yom is Light: the days have been shortened to hours, (the key to Daniel the Prophet).

I understand a lot of Daniel but not that part.
Thanks

 

[tailgator]

The sacred calendar day consists of seven hours set in the midst of the twelve hour civil calendar day. The third hour of the civil calendar day is the first hour of prayer, (morning prayer time). The sixth hour of the civil calendar day is midday, the midday hour of prayer on the sacred calendar day, (see Acts 10:9), and that is the tzohorim hour, (see Amos 8:9, the word for noon or midday is tzohorim). The evening hour of prayer is the ninth hour of the civil calendar day, (see Acts 3:1 and Acts 10:3, and this is the hour of the evening oblation in Daniel 9:21).

However the sacred calendar hours of the day commence at the bottom of the hour, being offset so that the evening portion of the hour comes first, (the second half of the hour). This is because it is the calendar day of the opening creation account, so the evening portion of the hour comes first, commencing at the bottom of the hour, and that is the silent portion. It may help to see it laid out on a sundial drawing for the visual aspect because it is somewhat difficult to visualize, comprehend, and understand.



View attachment 353884

So from the (bottom of the) third hour to the (bottom of the) sixth hour is half the morning portion of the twelve hour civil calendar day, three hours. And from the (bottom of the) sixth hour to the (bottom of the) ninth hour there was darkness over all the land, three more hours, (six yamim-hours of the spoken Word creation from the beginning), and the next hour is the seventh and Shabbat hour of the sacred calendar day, from the bottom of the ninth hour to the bottom of the tenth hour, (evening to evening).

And who has despised the abbreviated day?
Yom is Light: the days have been shortened to hours, (the key to Daniel the Prophet).

I've got a question for you if you are Messianic.

How could anyone help the Messianic Jews in Israel during their tribulation?

Daniel 11:33-34
“Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.
During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

How would someone on the other side of the world help ?

 

[Fisherking]

It seems like the end time prophecy is a pretty popular topic. I know there are various opinions about how it’s going to occur, but that‘s besides the point.

I have wondered about that when the seventh seal is opened and there’s silence in Heaven for half an hour, what could that possibly mean? What would be the reason for that? Is there any possible theory what that might be?

Well, not one correct answer yet. I admit I only got this when I understood the Seals are nothing more than SEALS, not Wrath, not actual events, but soon to come events, more on that later, it explains why I understand this question, but on to the answer first.

Ever been to a funeral guys? We are mostly reverent and quite at funerals. Since the 7th Seal dutifully releases the 7 Trumpets which contain "All of God's Wrath" as in 7 = Divine Completion, it is at that very moment we see the heavens are somber, not joyous, just like God when He had to flood the whole world, it grieved God, it repented Him the bible says so He promised never to flood the world again. Likewise, when the Wrath of God is about to fall on mankind, the heavens take no joy in this occasion. Judgment must come, but there is "Silence in Heaven for an 1/2 hour.

Now, if the 7 Trumps contain all of God's wrath (it does) then we can now look at the 7 Thunders in Rev. 10 in an all new light. When the 7th Thunder (Trump) sounds time will be no more [as it had been under Satan's rule over mankind]. This is why the little book was sweet in the mouth but sour or bitter in John's stomach, he knew the Judgment must happen in order for mankind to one day live for Eternity with Jesus and the Father in heaven, or in New Jerusalem, but at the exact same time, John knew that billions of human beings would be killed and judged, and one day condemned to hell fire.

Only when one understand the Seals only have God's Wrath SEALED UP.......(When I finally got this I said to myself DUH......the Seals SEAL UP God's Wrath, only when the 7th Seal is off can the Wrath fall). Seals 1-5 is Jesus foretelling the Pre Trib. Raptured Church in Heaven, about the coming Anti-Christs actions over a 42 month period, each prophetic event covers 42 months, but only starts at the Rev. 8 Asteroid Event which is one big Asteroid shown in Four (Trumps 1-4) phases . In the Seals the Anti-Christ actions are seen as covering these 5 things: 1.) He WILL conquer for 42 months 2.) He brings Wars for 42 months 3.) His Wars bring Famine for 42 months 4.) His rule will bring Sickness, Death & The Grave over a 42 month period of time 5.) The A.C. will Martyr the Gentile Saints who turn to Christs Gid protects the 1/3 Jews who repent.

In Seal #6 Jesus FORETELLS of God's soon t fall wrath as seen in Rev. 8, that is why the Sun and Moon goes dark just as it does in ACTUAL TIME via Trump # 4, guess what Joel 2:31 also foretold the Wrath of God falling, so both Joel 2:31 and the 6th Seal FORETELL of the coming Trumpet Judgments. Rev. 8 brings them both to pass. Now we see why I say the 144,000 are merely the Jews flee9ng Judea, a CODE for 5 million Jews who repent. They are the 1/3 of Zech. 13:8-9........AND GUESS WHAT......Zech. 14:1 says Behold the DOTL has arrived !!! BOOM.

The Silence is just what it says, a reverence to mankind's down fall.

 

[Matt5]

I'm quite sure it's not Rome Iran would nuke if it had the chance.

"But here’s where it gets interesting. Very interesting. All this has been mapped out over 1500 years ago in the following Jewish scriptural sources:"

Yoma 10a in the Talmud – “Rabbi Yochanan said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda in the name of Rabbi Ilayi: In the time to come, Rome will fall at the hands of Persia.”

"Rabbi Yonasan Eibshetz (1690-1764) in his book Ya’arot Dvash – “At a certain moment the time will come when the Messiah should have already arrived but the redemption has not yet come. The Messiah will ask how it could be that the time for redemption has arrived and he still undergoes sufferings? The response that he will receive is that he must wait for nine months. Why? In order to wait for the fall of Persia (Iran) at the hands of Edom (the Christian West), and then the final redemption will come!”"

Prophecy Fulfilled: Sept. 4, 2015 - Israel365 News

Prophecy Fulfilled: Sept. 4, 2015

I wanted to take advantage of the opportunity to publish this tidbit of news I discovered in Friday morning's newspaper, but by now everyone must surely know.

israel365news.com

Muslims are already talking about conquering Rome because Allah said they would do it. How will it happen?

Canadian imam: Islam will conquer Rome | The Times of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/canadian-imam-islam-will-conquer-rome/

 

[tailgator]

"But here’s where it gets interesting. Very interesting. All this has been mapped out over 1500 years ago in the following Jewish scriptural sources:"



"Rabbi Yonasan Eibshetz (1690-1764) in his book Ya’arot Dvash – “At a certain moment the time will come when the Messiah should have already arrived but the redemption has not yet come. The Messiah will ask how it could be that the time for redemption has arrived and he still undergoes sufferings? The response that he will receive is that he must wait for nine months. Why? In order to wait for the fall of Persia (Iran) at the hands of Edom (the Christian West), and then the final redemption will come!”"

Prophecy Fulfilled: Sept. 4, 2015 - Israel365 News

Prophecy Fulfilled: Sept. 4, 2015

I wanted to take advantage of the opportunity to publish this tidbit of news I discovered in Friday morning's newspaper, but by now everyone must surely know.

israel365news.com

Muslims are already talking about conquering Rome because Allah said they would do it. How will it happen?

Canadian imam: Islam will conquer Rome | The Times of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/canadian-imam-islam-will-conquer-rome/

Armegeddon is not in Rome.Its in Israel
Israel,the nation Iran wants to destroy.



Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.



Muslims are told in the Hadith to attack dajjals military after a three year drought.
They attack Jerusalem killing the two witnesses after a three year drought caused by the two witnesses.


This is something else Muslims believe.

Sahih al-Bukhari 2926
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."



While Iran ,Iraq,Syria and turkey go to war of armegeddon Israel,Rome wont have any interest in getting involved.

 

[jasmine_childoftheking]

I'm going to a Bible study during the school year on Wednesday mornings, and it will be on Revelation. I'm sure the topic of the "Silence of in Heaven for half an hour" will be brought up.

 

[tailgator]

I'm going to a Bible study during the school year on Wednesday mornings, and it will be on Revelation. I'm sure the topic of the "Silence of in Heaven for half an hour" will be brought up.

I've never known what it was about.
But I do understand that scripture normally will help you understand scripture.What daq posted sounds like he or she is informed on this matter..Not only what they posted was scriptural ,it is also logical.
What daq posted also answered a question I had long long ago.Why Jesus said there are 12 hours in a day.

 

[daq]

I've never known what it was about.
But I do understand that scripture normally will help you understand scripture.What daq posted sounds like he or she is informed on this matter..Not only what they posted was scriptural ,it is also logical.
What daq posted also answered a question I had long long ago.Why Jesus said there are 12 hours in a day.

The reason I said that Yom is Light is because, not only is it true, (for Elohim calls the Yom, Light, Gen 1:5), but because yom therefore may be any increment of time, not just what we call in modern reckoning a "day". We find in the scripture a yom for a day in many, many places, but we also find a year for a day when the spies brought back an evil report on the land, (forty years for the forty days they went to spy out the land). Then we also find a day for a year in the Prophet Ezekiel, for the days he is commanded to lay on his right and left sides for the transgressions of Yhudah and Yisrael, each day for a year. We also find that one day is as a thousand years with the Master, and a thousand years are as one day, (2Pet 3:8), and this is likely based on Psalm 90, (a prayer of Mosheh), where we find that a thousand years in the eyes of the Most High are as yesterday when it is passed, and as a watch in the night, which is a mere four hours.

If therefore a yom may be a day, and a yom may be a year, and a yom may be as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one yom, and as a watch of the night which is a mere four hours, then no doubt a yom may also be an hour: for it is an hour of light, for yom is light, (Gen 1:5, according to the name which Elohim Himself names it when He calls the Light, Yom).

We therefore have the sacred calendar day laid out for us in the opening creation account: seven yamim-hours in the yom-day wherein Elohim made Earth and Heavens, (He made all in a single yom-day according to the statement in Gen 2:4). And we therefore also have the twelve hour civil calendar day laid out for us in Numbers 7, wherein each prince of the twelve tribes offers the korban offering for his tribe, each prince in his own yom-hour, (Num 7:11), of the yom-day wherein the altar was anointed, (read carefully: every yom offering occurs within the single yom-day wherein the altar was anointed, Num 7:10, Num 7:84).

The question from the Master to his talmidim-disciples in John 11:9, "Are there not twelve hours of the day?", cannot rightfully be answered except from the scripture: for we are all to be taught of Elohim, and the Master himself repeats this from Isaiah the Prophet in John 6:45, (prophets, plural, Isa 54:13 and probably also intending Jer 31:34). The answer to the question that is pleasing to the Father would therefore come from His Word, not of man teachers.

So if we were to take the question as pointed also to ourselves, as well as to his talmidim, how shall we answer it? Shall we say, "Oh, yes indeed, there are twelve hours in a day because the Sanhedrin says so"??? (Unacceptable). Shall we say, "Oh, yes of course, Roman time keeping tells us there are twelve hours of day and twelve hours of night"??? This too would be unacceptable: for if indeed we are taught of Elohim by His Word then the pleasing answer must come from His Word and our understanding of it, having been taught by Him and His Word in such matters, as in all things.

The only place one may find a teaching of twelve hours in a day is Numbers 7, but what we read in English translations are for the most part misleading in this respect, and therefore a study of the original language is necessary. There is no need for me to try to explain all of the reasons why, and bog down this thread: anyone who is interested can research these things for themselves, and may Elohim bless their understanding in their prayerful studies in His Word.

 

[tailgator]

The reason I said that Yom is Light is because, not only is it true, (for Elohim calls the Yom, Light, Gen 1:5), but because yom therefore may be any increment of time, not just what we call in modern reckoning a "day". We find in the scripture a yom for a day in many, many places, but we also find a year for a day when the spies brought back an evil report on the land, (forty years for the forty days they went to spy out the land). Then we also find a day for a year in the Prophet Ezekiel, for the days he is commanded to lay on his right and left sides for the transgressions of Yhudah and Yisrael, each day for a year. We also find that one day is as a thousand years with the Master, and a thousand years are as one day, (2Pet 3:8), and this is likely based on Psalm 90, (a prayer of Mosheh), where we find that a thousand years in the eyes of the Most High are as yesterday when it is passed, and as a watch in the night, which is a mere four hours.

If therefore a yom may be a day, and a yom may be a year, and a yom may be as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one yom, and as a watch of the night which is a mere four hours, then no doubt a yom may also be an hour: for it is an hour of light, for yom is light, (Gen 1:5, according to the name which Elohim Himself names it when He calls the Light, Yom).

We therefore have the sacred calendar day laid out for us in the opening creation account: seven yamim-hours in the yom-day wherein Elohim made Earth and Heavens, (He made all in a single yom-day according to the statement in Gen 2:4). And we therefore also have the twelve hour civil calendar day laid out for us in Numbers 7, wherein each prince of the twelve tribes offers the korban offering for his tribe, each prince in his own yom-hour, (Num 7:11), of the yom-day wherein the altar was anointed, (read carefully: every yom offering occurs within the single yom-day wherein the altar was anointed, Num 7:10, Num 7:84).

The question from the Master to his talmidim-disciples in John 11:9, "Are there not twelve hours of the day?", cannot rightfully be answered except from the scripture: for we are all to be taught of Elohim, and the Master himself repeats this from Isaiah the Prophet in John 6:45, (prophets, plural, Isa 54:13 and probably also intending Jer 31:34). The answer to the question that is pleasing to the Father would therefore come from His Word, not of man teachers.

So if we were to take the question as pointed also to ourselves, as well as to his talmidim, how shall we answer it? Shall we say, "Oh, yes indeed, there are twelve hours in a day because the Sanhedrin says so"??? (Unacceptable). Shall we say, "Oh, yes of course, Roman time keeping tells us there are twelve hours of day and twelve hours of night"??? This too would be unacceptable: for if indeed we are taught of Elohim by His Word then the pleasing answer must come from His Word and our understanding of it, having been taught by Him and His Word in such matters, as in all things.

The only place one may find a teaching of twelve hours in a day is Numbers 7, but what we read in English translations are for the most part misleading in this respect, and therefore a study of the original language is necessary. There is no need for me to try to explain all of the reasons why, and bog down this thread: anyone who is interested can research these things for themselves, and may Elohim bless their understanding in their prayerful studies in His Word.

It can be confusing and there have been some things I've found hard to understand ,but others I understood well.
I remember reading 2 Peter and thinking about the creation days .I started to understand the 1000 year reign in revelation was one day and that day was the Sabbath.Years later I was reading the general epistle of Barnabas and found that he had taught in the first century the same thing I had already come to believe .

“Of the sabbath, He speaks in the beginning of the creation; "And God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the seventh day, and rested on it, and He made it holy." Give heed, children, what this means; He ended in six days. He means this, that in six thousand years the Lord will bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifies a thousand years; and this, He Himself bears me witness, saying; "Behold, the Day of the Lord will be as a thousand years." Therefore, children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, everything will come to an end. And He rested on the seventh day. He means this; when His Son will come, He will abolish the time of the Lawless One, will judge the ungodly, and will change the sun and the moon and the stars. Then He will truly rest on the seventh day.

– Epistle of Barnabas 15:3-5