Trump’s Muslim ban

[rturner76]

I've noticed that like you....many posters this year are referring to GDP as an indicator of economic health.

Most of them don't seem to have the first clue what GDP refers to.

Do you?

Actually, I don't know more than it's a measure of now much money is coming into the country. Do you know that American banks move more money around the world than any other? How could we be broke? We have a large debt which went into the trillions under good 'ol Ron Regan but our backs could pay that off in one shot. But they enjoy collecting the interest of the lower classes because as you know billionaires like your best friend Trump don't pay taxes.

 

[RileyG]

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It's a well-said stereotype that we shouldn't subscribe to. There is a vast difference between Muslims raised in an Islamic Theocracy and American Muslims. There is no reason why we should believe that they don't seek the same American dream as all immigrants. Let's not forget that each and every American today has an immigrant background. NOT ONLY THAT but I'm sure you are aware that there have been far more terrorist attacks on American by white supremacists than any Muslim. It would be more productive to ban all white racists than Muslims.

Also, are you aware that the Catholic Church financed Muhammed's war against the Pagans? the only problem was that he received his own revelation and wrote it in the Quran while he fasted in a cave for 40 days. He split off from them but he always called Jews and Christians "People of the book" Don't vilify them, try to understand than and you will make much more progress as a pilgrim.

Even though Muslims don't recognize the diety of Christ they do acknowledge that is IS the risen Christ. We are not so far apart and we are not their superiors. They are our equals though evangelical Christianity would have them labeled as demons, they are human beings with the same wants and needs as all of us.

Odd. I was never aware of the second part.

Thanks for the response.

 

[stevil]

I think you exaggerate. How can we be in an economic crisis when we have the most robust economy in the entire world?

Psst,
Word on the street is, that when a Democrat is in office, Right wing media like Fox News opinion shows, tell their viewers that the USA economy is in crisis. When a Republican is in office the same media hosts tell their viewers that the USA economy is the strongest its ever been.

At the moment a Democrat is in office, has been for almost 4 years, so these folk have been told for almost 4 years that the economy is in crisis, that the border is in crisis.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Actually, I don't know more than it's a measure of now much money is coming into the country.

That's not really what GDP measures.

GDP or gross domestic product....measures the relative size of our economy compared to others. That's the easy way to think about it. It factors things like....consumer spending (how much money people here spend on products or consumption) and government welfare (how much our government spends on goods and services to redistribute to people) as huge parts of the equation.

But it sounds nice to people who don't really understand economics. GDP went up....so things must be better? Not so.

You could be paying higher prices for the same things you bought last week at the store....and GDP will go up. You can be paying higher taxes so more people can get food stamps or receive benefits and GDP will go up.

I think a better metric for economic health is the difference in percentage people in poverty and struggling to meet basic needs compared to previous years. We went from single income households who could afford a house, wife, and two children....to two income households....to people needing multiple jobs, or both parents needing multiple jobs or simply not having children.

I understand that many people choose these options...pursuing side careers while having a more stable career....or just not having children....but I have to wonder if it's because other options aren't available anymore due to rising costs of living and flat wages.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Psst,

At the moment a Democrat is in office, has been for almost 4 years, so these folk have been told for almost 4 years that the economy is in crisis, that the border is in crisis.

Pssst....you've been told the opposite.

I'm more than willing to discuss whether or not something is a crisis.

If violent criminal gangs, terrorists, and people looking for handouts by the millions is not a crisis of border security in your mind....I'll need to know what is. What conditions have to happen for you to consider the southern border a crisis?

Same goes for economic crisis. If many needs are still much more expensive than they were pre-covid....I'd probably agree it isn't a crisis....but when I consider increasing food costs, educational costs, housing costs make these things increasingly out if reach foe a larger and larger group of people....

It starts to look a bit like a crisis.

Maybe you don't agree...and that's ok...

But consider that the same people who told you we need to bail out college students....COLLEGE STUDENTS....because they can't possibly find jobs to pay off their loans and expensive educations....

If those same people are telling you there's no economic crisis....well....

1. They're lying about the need for student loan relief. College educations are supposed to lead to prosperous lives. If they aren't....there's a reason.

2. They're lying about economic crisis. College students can't find jobs doing anything that would relieve their debt....and the illegals who are working service industry jobs work cheaper than the college students.

3. You're unable to see the problem for some reason.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Did youdebunk or do you live in denial like "white people could never hurt anybody."

I debunked it.

I thought it mighty suspicious that this white supremacists terrorist threat was becoming a huge focus in politics....especially when actual events were very sporadic and rare.

So when the ADL posted it's list....I went through it, and looked up each case....1 by 1.

Out of the what 100+ cases they cited? There's maybe 12 or so you and I would call "terrorism" even if we used a very very loose definition of terrorism. They killed less than 100 people over a decade (the 12 or so we would agree can be called terrorism). It's not really a serious threat to anyone.

To pad the stats...they included....

Murders labeled hate crimes. If some white guy and some black guy got into a fight, and the white guy threw out some racial slurs, that's a white supremacist according to the ADL.

Murders committed by actual white supremacists that were in no way motivated by white supremacy. Some guy murders his neighbor after robbing him....for money or something....and it turned out he ascribed to some white supremacist beliefs online.

Murders of white supremacists who actually belong to some sort of white supremacist organization....by other white supremacists in that organization. Internal disputes in these organizations sometimes lead to murder....and apparently that counts to the ADL.

Prison murders. The AB is a white supremacist prison gang that only makes up 1% of the prison population but commits around 15% of murders in prison. Not sure why we would count these....they aren't much danger to the public and majority are lifers.

It's not a list full of white supremacists committing terrorism. If you doubt me though....provide the list....I'll gladly debunk it.

Oh the FBI Director speaking on Fox News where nobody will challenge him and support his Federal Biased Institution.

He's not being interviewed by Fox. He's testifying before the Intelligence committee about threats to national security.

They are free to challenge him all they like.

 

[stevil]

Pssst....you've been told the opposite.

Well, no. The non right wing media had been saying under Trump's pre Covid period that the economy was going well, certainly no worse than it had been going under Obama. Trends had continued, and things were fine.

If violent criminal gangs, terrorists, and people looking for handouts by the millions is not a crisis of border security in your mind....I'll need to know what is.

This is just fear mongering nonsense, trying to paint coloured folk as criminals, violent and leaches on society.

In fact, undocumented immigrants are less likely to behave criminally than your average US citizen.

What conditions have to happen for you to consider the southern border a crisis?

Oh, I would agree that USA has a large problem at the southern border. It's not about drugs or terrorists or gangs or child trafficking. That is just hyperbolic fear mongering, playing into the fears and perceptions that bigots in USA have about brown people.

The problem is that USA is having more physical applications (people arriving in person at the border) than what USA's capacity to properly vet and process them is. It's a logistics problem.
At one stage you guys just used to lock these people up for months and months while you tried to process their applications. But it's gotten to the point that you've realised it's unethical, and inhumane to lock up mostly innocent people, especially for lengthy periods, especially children. So your governments have either allowed them into the country temporarily while they are being process or have denied entry for people claiming to be in immanent danger, simply pushing them away and back into the face of the danger they are trying to flee.

The obvious humane and UN Human Rights compliant approach would be for USA to put more resources into processing these applications in a much quicker timeframe. e.g. get more judges and give more funding to process applications. An alternative approach could be to build a gated facility, Like a compound with houses, police, medical care, shops, etc so that it's more like a safe village than a prison or detention centre. They have these sort of things in Arab nations for Westerners https://wanderwisdom.com/travel-destinations/Expat-Housing-in-Saudi-Arabia
Obviously it would be cheaper and easier just to let them in to wait for processing, but that also comes with risks as some unsavouries may come in to society.

As I understand it, a Bipartisan Bill written by Democrats and some far right Republicans which sought to provide more resources and give the President more powers and obligations to shutdown entry was presented but this was shot down by Republicans after D Trump told them he didn't want the problem fixed because he wants to campaign on a broken border. Even one of the Republicans that drafted the bill, voted against his own bill in servitude to D Trump.

Same goes for economic crisis. If many needs are still much more expensive than they were pre-covid.

It is very rare to have deflation. Deflation is described by economists to be bad for an economy. So given that, you typically expect prices to increase over time. That is completely normal.

However, of course you don't want huge levels of inflation either.
But during the Covid pandemic and with the onset of the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine this caused the entire world to experience high inflation for a period.
USA did very poorly on the world stage in regards to protecting its people from the deadly effects of the pandemic, USA's death toll was way higher than it should have been, however USA has managed to claw back inflation, and on the world stage is one of the better reocoveries in the world. But of course prices remain high (as you would expect because deflation isn't a thing), but they are no longer increasing at high rates.

 

[Lukaris]

From post 205:

This is just fear mongering nonsense, trying to paint coloured folk as criminals, violent and leaches on society.

No this is just your own stereotype of lying and slander. Any American can see ( if they open their eyes)that we are losing farmland at a serious rate and more and more of our canned foods are imported from China. I am not assuming an all out food crisis but some social upheaval could be possible. Plus the current administration ( whoever it actually is) has been running down our strategic petroleum reserves to patch up rampant inflation. We have generous immigration; induced mass migration on top of already existing problems is a disaster.

Losing 4.3 Acres of Farmland a Minute | Farmland Partners

Approximately 943 million acres of farmland spanned America in 2000, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). By 2022, farmland acreage had dropped to about 893.4 million. That’s the equivalent of losing all the farmland in Indiana three times over. Put another way, the United...

www.farmlandpartners.com

The Biden Administration’s Ongoing Strategic Petroleum Reserve Gamble

The SPR has the capacity to hold enough crude oil to help mitigate the impact of severe supply interruptions. Right now, the Biden Administration is taking a gamble with the SPR.

www.forbes.com

Unfortunately, there do not seem to be any reliable sources for canned goods from China. Most Americans should look and see that much of canned fruits and vegetables are imported from the PRC. This should not be a good thing.

 

[stevil]

Any American can see ( if they open their eyes)that we are losing farmland at a serious rate and more and more of our canned foods are imported from China.

I don't know much about your farmland, or what is meant by "losing farmland"
With regards to importing food from China, well, most countries import and export goods. If you don't like people not buying USA made, or if you don't like USA people buying China made canned food, maybe market your stuff better domestically, or get your prices down or your quality up.

We have generous immigration; induced mass migration on top of already existing problems is a disaster.

USA's net migration isn't anything remarkable. You guys are 38th on this list. My country is 29th with slightly more net migration per capita than USA.

 

[Hans Blaster]

From post 205:

No this is just your own stereotype of lying and slander. Any American can see ( if they open their eyes)that we are losing farmland at a serious rate

I blame the suburbs. Pointless, spread-out development. Destroyed many a good farm it has.

and more and more of our canned foods are imported from China.

Seriously, where do you get that. Did you check the "Asian Foods" shelf at the grocery?

I am not assuming an all out food crisis but some social upheaval could be possible. Plus the current administration ( whoever it actually is)

The current administration is the Biden Administration. It's common knowledge. I don't understand how you could be unaware of it.

has been running down our strategic petroleum reserves to patch up rampant inflation.

The SPR was used to keep prices under control when with global production low, the world came out of the pandemic and the Saudis were lagging on production growth. Currently they are still buying back the sold off oil at lower prices.

We have generous immigration; induced mass migration on top of already existing problems is a disaster.

What problem is that on top of?

Losing 4.3 Acres of Farmland a Minute | Farmland Partners

Approximately 943 million acres of farmland spanned America in 2000, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). By 2022, farmland acreage had dropped to about 893.4 million. That’s the equivalent of losing all the farmland in Indiana three times over. Put another way, the United...

www.farmlandpartners.com

The Biden Administration’s Ongoing Strategic Petroleum Reserve Gamble

The SPR has the capacity to hold enough crude oil to help mitigate the impact of severe supply interruptions. Right now, the Biden Administration is taking a gamble with the SPR.

www.forbes.com

Unfortunately, there do not seem to be any reliable sources for canned goods from China. Most Americans should look and see that much of canned fruits and vegetables are imported from the PRC. This should not be a good thing.

I looked and found none. Most don't give a place of origin. The one that did was a store-brand can of tomatoes labeled "Grown in USA". I worked at a vegetable cannery 30 years ago. That plant is still operating and sending product to the grocery in my neighborhood in another state.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Well, no. The non right wing media had been saying under Trump's pre Covid period that the economy was going well, certainly no worse than it had been going under Obama. Trends had continued, and things were fine.

Yeah most complaints about him turned out to be largely imaginary.

This is just fear mongering nonsense, trying to paint coloured folk as criminals, violent and leaches on society.

I say Muslim and you think "coloured folk". Wow.

There are white Muslims who I would think no differently of. Those chechens that bombed the Boston marathon were pretty white looking.

It appears one of us has racist assumptions about Muslims...and it's not me.

In fact, undocumented immigrants are less likely to behave criminally than your average US citizen.

I'm sure some ancient study is behindthis belief....along with other ones claiming black people can't get IDs so that's why we shouldn't need them to vote.

Oh, I would agree that USA has a large problem at the southern border. It's not about drugs or terrorists or gangs or child trafficking.

No?

That is just hyperbolic fear mongering, playing into the fears and perceptions that bigots in USA have about brown people.

Here's thirty minutes of mostly black people in Chicago....upset at the proposed additional 70$ million of their taxes going to freeloading immigrants.

And your claim is that their concerns, their despair that they're being ignored, forgotten, overlooked, are all invalid because they're all bigots?

I'd say they have some good points. I think it's unfortunate that they were fooled by idiots claiming only bigots don't support border control.

The problem is that USA is having more physical applications (people arriving in person at the border) than what USA's capacity to properly vet and process them is. It's a logistics problem.

It's not merely a logistics problem. This administration doesn't enforce laws. It doesn't deport.

At one stage you guys just used to lock these people up for months and months while you tried to process their applications.

Please don't try to lecture me about the process. I've looked into it far more than you.

The obvious humane and UN Human Rights compliant approach would be for USA to put more resources into processing these applications in a much quicker timeframe. e.g. get more judges and give more funding to process applications.

They aren't innocent. They broke the law on illegal entry.

An alternative approach could be to build a gated facility, Like a compound with houses, police, medical care, shops, etc so that it's more like a safe village than a prison or detention centre.

For 10 million people? It's more than exist in many states in the US. Your proposal is dumb....it's a child's idea.

As I understand it, a Bipartisan Bill written by Democrats and some far right Republicans which sought to provide more resources and give the President more powers and obligations to shutdown entry was presented but this was shot down by Republicans after D Trump told them he didn't want the problem fixed because he wants to campaign on a broken border. Even one of the Republicans that drafted the bill, voted against his own bill in servitude to D Trump.

I looked at the bill. It was a non-solution.

It is very rare to have deflation. Deflation is described by economists to be bad for an economy. So given that, you typically expect prices to increase *snip*

Real quick....the sort of axiomatic rule of economics is that whatever theories are popular, are popular because they appeal to the wealthy. The poor don't read, study, or really understand economics.

Since inflation refers to my dollar losing value....why would my dollar increasing in value or "deflation" be a bad thing?

I can assure you that any nation that's experiencing rapidly increasing inflation would love some deflation.

However, of course you don't want huge levels of inflation either.

But you just said it was good?

Do you not understand MMT enough to critique it?

But during the Covid pandemic and with the onset of the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine this caused the entire world to experience high inflation for a period.

Because of sanctions Biden placed on Russian energy and denial of energy leases domestically....along with printing a lot of money and wild spending, sure.

USA did very poorly on the world stage in regards to protecting its people from the deadly effects of the pandemic,

Sure. I guess. I've never lived through a lab made virus that spreads like wildfire and damages so much of the body. It's unclear what a good response looks like.

USA's death toll was way higher than it should have been,

That's speculation.

however USA has managed to claw back inflation, and on the world stage is one of the better reocoveries in the world. But of course prices remain high (as you would expect because deflation isn't a thing), but they are no longer increasing at high rates.

? You're admitting everything is more expensive....in fact, we watched prices skyrocket....and they still remain high....but you're telling me "deflation" isn't a thing as if it has something to do with prices. Not the supply of money, or it's relative value....or as if you have no idea what the relationship between supply and demand and price is.

 

[stevil]

Yeah most complaints about him turned out to be largely imaginary.

This was out of the blue. Certain does flow from anything we have been talking about. I'll just chalk this up to being a deflection

I say Muslim and you think "coloured folk". Wow.

We were talking about immigration on the Southern border.

There are white Muslims who I would think no differently of. Those chechens that bombed the Boston marathon were pretty white looking.

Why are you switching to talk about Muslims when the context was immigration on the Southern Border?

It appears one of us has racist assumptions about Muslims...and it's not me.

Huh?

I'm sure some ancient study is behindthis belief....along with other ones claiming black people can't get IDs so that's why we shouldn't need them to vote.

The reasoning is that undocumented immigrants don't want any run in with the law because they will then get deported.
I'm not going to address your ID deflection, let's just stay on track rather than throw stuff to the wall in the hopes that something sticks.

Here's thirty minutes of mostly black people in Chicago....upset at the proposed additional 70$ million of their taxes going to freeloading immigrants.

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

it's unfortunate that they were fooled by idiots claiming only bigots don't support border control.

This is dishonest. Most people in USA support border control, including the Democratic Party.

It's not merely a logistics problem. This administration doesn't enforce laws. It doesn't deport.

They do deport. Are you being intentionally dishonest?

Please don't try to lecture me about the process. I've looked into it far more than you.

This isn't a contest. I don't care if you or me have done more research. Stick to the points.

They aren't innocent. They broke the law on illegal entry.

Many are innocent. If they turn up to a port of entry and claim asylum then they have not broken any USA laws. Those that don't come into a port of entry, but then when inside go straight to the authorities, yes they have technically broken an entry law but they haven't tried to get away with anything, they have come in and are seeking leniency (maybe they get some). Those that just sneak in and don't seek the authorities, well they are unlikely to get much leniency.

It feels like your approach to discussing topics is spin and half truths.

For 10 million people? It's more than exist in many states in the US. Your proposal is dumb....it's a child's idea.

It depends on how quickly they are coming in and how quickly you can process them.

I looked at the bill. It was a non-solution.

LOL. Many Republicans thought it was a good step forwards, certainly better than what is in place today.

The poor don't read, study, or really understand economics.

I would highly recommend you educate yourself.

Since inflation refers to my dollar losing value....why would my dollar increasing in value or "deflation" be a bad thing?

Yep, lots of resources online. educate yourself. I'm not an economics teacher.

I can assure you that any nation that's experiencing rapidly increasing inflation would love some deflation.

A child might come up with that.

But you just said it was good?

Are you playing games, you don't seem interested in honest discussion.

Because of sanctions Biden placed on Russian energy and denial of energy leases domestically....along with printing a lot of money and wild spending, sure.

Most western countries stopped buying Russian energy, we didn't want to fund their invasion of Ukraine.

Sure. I guess. I've never lived through a lab made virus that spreads like wildfire and damages so much of the body. It's unclear what a good response looks like.

Idiotic response.

That's speculation.

There is lots of information online of countries dealing with the pandemic to save lives.
Educate yourself.

? You're admitting everything is more expensive....in fact, we watched prices skyrocket....and they still remain high....but you're telling me "deflation" isn't a thing as if it has something to do with prices.

idiotic!

Not the supply of money, or it's relative value....or as if you have no idea what the relationship between supply and demand and price is.

Educate yourself online. It's not my job to teach you economics and inflation.

 

[Ana the Ist]

This was out of the blue.

I was agreeing with you.

We were talking about immigration on the Southern border.

Why are you switching to talk about Muslims when the context was immigration on the Southern Border?

Sorry, mixed up my convo with you and another poster....it doesn't really change my point though. I'm talking about illegals crossing the southern border, and 150 nationalities have crossed. If you imagine them brown....that's your mistake, not mine.

Huh?

If you want to make racist assumptions about people crossing the border, that's on you.

The reasoning is that undocumented immigrants don't want any run in with the law because they will then get deported.

Ok...

We actually have illegals committing crimes now and asking for deportation to come back over because it's that easy under Biden.

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

You said the problem was bigotry and fear mongering. Those people are losing 70 million dollars that could go to things in their communities....and you're calling them bigots.

Do you want to retract that and admit it's a legitimate problem that has nothing to do with bigotry?

Or are you calling these people bigots?

This is dishonest. Most people in USA support border control, including the Democratic Party.

In what way? They spent 3 years under Trump lying about the problem and 3 under Biden ignoring it.

They don't seem to care until it hits their cities up north. For all the crying in NY and Chicago it's a fraction of the problem in Texas, Arizona, and California.

They do deport. Are you being intentionally dishonest?

New Biden rules for ICE point to fewer arrests and deportations, and a more restrained agency

President Joe Biden’s administration is attempting to reorient U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, an agency that has seen its priorities swing wildly from one administration to the next.

www.texastribune.org

ICE deports illegals inside the US. They were instructed to only go after aggravated felons and terrorists basically. If you imagine all these people who have been denied asylum under Biden are being deported....you're wrong.

Many are innocent. If they turn up to a port of entry and claim asylum then they have not broken any USA laws.

We're talking about illegals crossing the border.

Those that don't come into a port of entry, but then when inside go straight to the authorities, yes they have technically broken an entry law but they haven't tried to get away with anything, they have come in and are seeking leniency (maybe they get some). Those that just sneak in and don't seek the authorities, well they are unlikely to get much leniency.

They won't be deported unless they commit aggravated felonies....and what's to prevent them from returning?

LOL. Many Republicans thought it was a good step forwards, certainly better than what is in place today.

There's idiots on both sides of the aisle....

You seem to understand that these people largely surrender to authorities once they enter. Imagine what will happen once that 5000 person limit is reached....

Do you think they'll surrender? Wait a few more weeks? Or will they swamp the border in large numbers and assault authorities?

It's a dumb plan.

I would highly recommend you educate yourself.

Did it.

Most western countries stopped buying Russian energy, we didn't want to fund their invasion of Ukraine.

So we agree.

Idiotic response.

Ok.

There is lots of information online of countries dealing with the pandemic to save lives.
Educate yourself.

Educate yourself. I just watched one of the CDC heads explain that he wishes they had factored or at least considered the economic devastation of the policies they pushed....but they didn't.

While I appreciate his admission it's a bit late.

Educate yourself online. It's not my job to teach you economics and inflation.

Your statements already show that I know vastly more than you. Educate yourself is the rallying cry of people who want to appear smart but aren't.

 

[stevil]

We actually have illegals committing crimes now and asking for deportation to come back over because it's that easy under Biden.

I'm not sure what your point is. No one has ever said that undocumented immigrants never commit crimes. The claim is that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than your average USA citizen.

None of the rest of your post was worth responding to.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I'm not sure what your point is. No one has ever said that undocumented immigrants never commit crimes. The claim is that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than your average USA citizen.

As you said...to avoid deportation.

I'm pointing out that deportation is actually preferred in many cases now because it's quite literally that easy to enter.

If deportation doesn't happen or if deportation isn't a meaningful consequence (because you can return immediately) then obviously it won't deter crime.

I thought it was a pretty obvious point.

None of the rest of your post was worth responding to.

Yeah...I know you don't know economics lol. Telling me to educate myself may be fun but it gives you away.

 

[stevil]

As you said...to avoid deportation.

I'm pointing out that deportation is actually preferred in many cases now because it's quite literally that easy to enter.

If deportation doesn't happen or if deportation isn't a meaningful consequence (because you can return immediately) then obviously it won't deter crime.

I thought it was a pretty obvious point.

Only obvious to someone that swims in a sea of nonsense.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Only obvious to someone that swims in a sea of nonsense.

Are we done then?

 

[wing2000]

...I think this thread was done on page 1.

It's not clear if the op is proposing a ban based on one's religious beliefs or country of origin.

 

[Lukaris]

From post #210:

Seriously, where do you get that. Did you check the "Asian Foods" shelf at the grocery?

No, I look at brand names like Libby’s at dollar tree or Clover Valley at Dollar General. I should have specified this pertains mostly to canned fruit and I have seen a shift from US grown to PRC grown. There has been an increase of no specified place of origin also; there I have to take my chances.

Many people in America want to know where food is from ( maybe you could care less, I have no idea).

Safety Concerns: Chinese Imported Canned Goods | Independent Women's Forum

Chinese products don’t have to meet American safety standards, labeling requirements, and U.S. labor practices, all of which increase the costs of production for American companies.

www.iwf.org