• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Trump Tells Christians They Won’t Have to Vote in Future: ‘We’ll Have It Fixed’

wing2000

E pluribus unum
Site Supporter
Aug 18, 2012
25,482
21,526
✟1,781,208.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
2. Defunding police: On a radio show in 2020, Harris said " in the June radio interview the movement “rightly” called out the amount of money spent on police departments instead of community services such as education, housing, and healthcare, emphasizing that more police did not equate to more public safety." In another interview (Good Morning America) "applauded Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s decision to slash police funding by $150 million"

....so if a mayor supports reallocating funds for the police to another part of the city's budget, that is "defunding the police" in your mind?
 
Upvote 0

ralliann

christian
Jun 27, 2007
8,429
2,649
✟280,536.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
....so if a mayor supports reallocating funds for the police to another part of the city's budget, that is "defunding the police" in your mind?
If it is not spent on policing then what else would it be?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Merrill
Upvote 0

Pommer

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic
Sep 13, 2008
23,095
14,252
Earth
✟254,769.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Democrat
If it is not spent on policing then what else would it be?
If the reallocated money saves work for the police (because money spent elsewhere reduces the incidence of crime), win-win.
 
Upvote 0

HARK!

שמע
Christian Forums Staff
Supervisor
Site Supporter
Oct 29, 2017
65,472
10,790
US
✟1,587,013.00
Country
United States
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Private
MOD HAT ON

350015_0f282d4b538245f7d5ab333c90dad940.jpeg


MOD HAT OFF
 
Upvote 0

Oompa Loompa

Well-Known Member
Jun 4, 2020
10,206
5,428
Louisiana
✟307,522.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
When a candidate promises that if you vote for him you need never vote again in another election, you need to check whether they are another 4th rate charlie Chaplin impersonator.

The implications is chilling.

Yep, Trump 2024, vote for me and we will end that whole democracy and peaceful fair transfer of power every 4 years.

The one thing he is honest on is his intention to rig the whole election system.
Well, considering the fact that the DNC crowned Kamala Harris as their presidential nominee without receiving a single vote from an american voter, I think democracy is in safer hands with Trump.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Merrill
Upvote 0

Goonie

Not so Mystic Mog.
Site Supporter
Jun 13, 2015
10,444
10,037
48
UK
✟1,352,461.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Well, considering the fact that the DNC crowned Kamala Harris as their presidential nominee without receiving a single vote from an american voter, I think democracy is in safer hands with Trump.
Why so no votes in November? Oh wait with Donald it's a one off event, no need 4 years later if you take him at his word.
 
Upvote 0

Oompa Loompa

Well-Known Member
Jun 4, 2020
10,206
5,428
Louisiana
✟307,522.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Why so no votes in November? Oh wait with Donald it's a one off event, no need 4 years later if you take him at his word.
I have a feeling that democracy will be just fine after Trump is elected.
 
Upvote 0

Oompa Loompa

Well-Known Member
Jun 4, 2020
10,206
5,428
Louisiana
✟307,522.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Unless you take him at his word, as a 'christian' he has stated no need to vote 4 years later as he will have fixed everything.

His promise is to end democracy, only people who use the bible as toilet paper would think otherwise.
I think otherwise, so are you accusing me of using the Bible as toilet paper?
 
Upvote 0

Goonie

Not so Mystic Mog.
Site Supporter
Jun 13, 2015
10,444
10,037
48
UK
✟1,352,461.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
I think otherwise, so are you accusing me of using the Bible as toilet paper?
Donald has stated if you vote for him as a christian there is no need to ever vote again as he will have fixed everything.

You are the one who has stated that a candidate declaring there is no need to vote ever again once they are elected is not a threat to democracy.
 
Upvote 0

Oompa Loompa

Well-Known Member
Jun 4, 2020
10,206
5,428
Louisiana
✟307,522.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Donald has stated if you vote for him as a christian there is no need to ever vote again as he will have fixed everything.

You are the one who has stated that a candidate declaring there is no need to vote ever again once they are elected is not a threat to democracy.
I'll take my chances with the convict. I am sure everything will be fine.
 
Upvote 0

Merrill

Well-Known Member
Mar 25, 2023
1,456
1,064
45
Chicago
✟89,807.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Unless you take him at his word, as a 'christian' he has stated no need to vote 4 years later as he will have fixed everything.

His promise is to end democracy, only people who use the bible as toilet paper would think otherwise.
Kamala Harris said she would

1. Pack the court
2. Abolish private health insurance
3. Sign a slavery reparations bill
4. Support mandatory gun buybacks

so unless you think subverting the judiciary, taking people's health insurance away, confiscating guns, etc. is OK, you better worry about what Kamala wants to do to "democracy"

a woman who never won a primary or national election
 
Upvote 0

Landon Caeli

I ♡ potato pancakes and applesauce
Site Supporter
Jan 8, 2016
17,645
6,788
48
North Bay
✟818,702.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Can you quote her on that?
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. I'm not a tit-for-tat guy, I'm into concepts, philosophies, etc... You know - the high-end part of human thinking.
 
Upvote 0

Hazelelponi

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jun 25, 2018
11,891
11,278
USA
✟1,055,392.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Constitution

Video:

That was awesome wasn't it?

It's a new way of saying "it'll be an awesome administration when I get into office"!

He's not wrong though, about Christians not voting.... Hopefully this year we can get a bigger turnout from the Christians. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Danthemailman
Upvote 0

Hans Blaster

Beardo
Mar 11, 2017
22,705
16,984
55
USA
✟429,087.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Democrat
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. I'm not a tit-for-tat guy, I'm into concepts, philosophies, etc... You know - the high-end part of human thinking.
Neither Trump (the topic of the thread) nor Harris (about who's policies you just made a claim) are concepts or philosophies. They are individuals with actual records, statements, and proposals. This is a dodge.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: DaisyDay
Upvote 0