Trump tells Christians their 'religion will be in tatters' if Biden wins: 'We answer to God in Heaven'

[Oompa Loompa]

Christianity would not be in tatters even if Christians were herded up and fed to the lions like in some Coliseum. It wasn't in tatters in the days of old Rome when that's what happened to them and it certainly wouldn't be today. Seeing through Trump's hyperbole though I get his meaning. The world view you hold dear with more so would be respected by his administration which might indeed be true.

People also get caught up in the issue of questioning whether Trump's personal morals reflects those of a Christian. Maybe they do maybe they don't but even if they don't it still doesn't do away with the fact that one administration might side in with a Christian world view more than another. In this regard we maybe can give Trump a credit. Consider perhaps he's right but he not expressing it a right way.

The issue for all Christians here though is this. Can you set aside his way of rhetoric, always not the wisest way of saying things but none the less having some truth in it......or are we to be moved by everything surface. If I were a pastor of a church though I'd tell people to pray about the government and be lead by your own conscience whether to vote or not, and to whom you would vote for. That is not for any other church leader to tell you about......Christian leaders should no 1 always put first place their congregations individual responsibility to hear from Christ the head of the church themselves about these issues.

Personally, it don't think it is appropriate for Trump to suggest that Biden will single handedly destroy Christianity. It already has been in tatters for years. I blame weak minded men who cave to the world by compromising biblical truths to appease a world that hates Christians.

 

[Bobber]

Personally, it don't think it is appropriate for Trump to suggest that Biden will single handedly destroy Christianity. It already has been in tatters for years. I blame weak minded men who cave to the world by compromising biblical truths to appease a world that hates Christians.

Yeah not appropriate I'd say rather it's just a statement of ignorance. Christianity will not be in tatters, Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. And how it seems Christianity is doing in America isn't necessarily a template of how things are doing around the world. India and other places massive revivals are taking place.

 

[Postvieww]

Don't be baiting anyone.

IF anyone were to explain via scripture a view of abortion opposite from the view of the site, they'd get reported by member(s) and get a staff action.

I was unaware the “site” had a stated view of abortion. Please show me where I can read that. I also disagree that asking anyone to back up a stated position on anything is “baiting”. Please clarify.

 

[The Barbarian]

In contrast, Donald Trump committed adultery with his second wife while married to the first and had many rumored affairs. He was married to Marla (2nd wife) from 1993 - 1997 and then they filed for divorce. He met Melania in 1998 and they married in 2005. He had an affair with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal claimed they had an affair before that.

"But there were reasons; they wanted it, or they lied about it, and he was a star, so he's entitled..."

 

[Postvieww]

Trump is lying. He will say anything to get elected.

Person opinion without foundation in facts. Tell us what the overnight policy transformation of Kamala is if not the ultimate in lying?

 

[The Barbarian]

Person opinion without foundation in facts.

Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)

We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Joseph G]

Personally, it don't think it is appropriate for Trump to suggest that Biden will single handedly destroy Christianity. It already has been in tatters for years. I blame weak minded men who cave to the world by compromising biblical truths to appease a world that hates Christians.

Really? In tatters?

 

[Postvieww]

Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)

We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

www.nytimes.com

Someone had way too much free time on their hands .

 

[expos4ever]

Someone had way too much free time on their hands .

You asked for evidence of Mr. Trump's lying. You got it. I do not know whether the article address is the specific matter in question. But it is beyond debate that Mr Trump has an issue with lying. Other politicians lie as well, but that is not what we are talking about right now.

 

[Postvieww]

You asked for evidence of Mr. Trump's lying. You got it. I do not know whether the article address is the specific matter in question. But it is beyond debate that Mr Trump has an issue with lying. Other politicians lie as well, but that is not what we are talking about right now.

Well since we probably agree that at least most politicians (probably all) lie or stretch the truth to some degree it seems reasonable that, that fact should be removed from consideration when choosing a candidate. But then that would take some of the fun out of Trump bashing!

 

[iarwain]

You asked for evidence of Mr. Trump's lying. You got it. I do not know whether the article address is the specific matter in question. But it is beyond debate that Mr Trump has an issue with lying. Other politicians lie as well, but that is not what we are talking about right now.

Lying seems to come with the job description of "politician". Biden lies like a rug. I'm not that familiar with Harris, but I recall her being confronted with calling Biden a racist in the primaries. She basically said she just said what she had to say because it was a debate. So I wouldn't be casting my vote on who is a liar and who isn't, because they all look like they're in the same boat to me.

 

[rturner76]

That's interesting, seeing how Biden is actually a practicing Catholic and Trump doesn't really go to church. It is just a strategy to keep the Evangelicals on side.

 

[The Barbarian]

Lying seems to come with the job description of "politician". Biden lies like a rug. I'm not that familiar with Harris, but I recall her being confronted with calling Biden a racist in the primaries. She basically said she just said what she had to say because it was a debate. So I wouldn't be casting my vote on who is a liar and who isn't, because they all look like they're in the same boat to me.

Voters harshly punish politicians who don't lie. They all lie. The difference with Trump is, he lies even when it does him no good to lie. Unlike most politicians, he lies continuously and compulsively.

 

[expos4ever]

Lying seems to come with the job description of "politician". Biden lies like a rug.

True, however I suggest by any reasonable standard Mr Trump is more of a liar than Mr Biden. You are free to ask me to substantiate this claim.

So I wouldn't be casting my vote on who is a liar and who isn't, because they all look like they're in the same boat to me.

The question is not who is a liar and who isn't as we all have lied at some point in our lives. The real question is who is the worse liar.

 

[BPPLEE]

True, however I suggest by any reasonable standard Mr Trump is more of a liar than Mr Biden. You are free to ask me to substantiate this claim.

The question is not who is a liar and who isn't as we all have lied at some point in our lives. The real question is who is the worse liar.

Trump has told more lies than Biden because he talks a lot more than Biden. But if you could get a percentage of how much of their total statements were lies I bet they would be about the same.

 

[iarwain]

Voters harshly punish politicians who don't lie.

That is unfortunately true.

The question is not who is a liar and who isn't as we all have lied at some point in our lives. The real question is who is the worse liar.

I would consider both Trump and Biden to be pathological liars. I'm not going to quibble over who does it the most, they both do it plenty.

 

[iarwain]

That's interesting, seeing how Biden is actually a practicing Catholic

Practicing Catholic until it comes to abortion.

 

[eclipsenow]

Person opinion without foundation in facts. Tell us what the overnight policy transformation of Kamala is if not the ultimate in lying?

"You shall know them by their fruits".

During and after his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of 6 per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described the scale of Trump's mendacity as "unprecedented" in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found "significant evidence" of an intent to deceive.[15]​

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By June 2019, after initially resisting, many news organizations began to describe some of his falsehoods as "lies".[16] The Washington Post said his frequent repetition of claims he knew to be false amounted to a campaign based on disinformation.[17] Trump campaign CEO and presidency chief strategist Steve Bannon said that the press, rather than Democrats, was Trump's primary adversary and "the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]."[18][19]​

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As part of their attempts to overturn the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump and his allies repeatedly falsely claimed there had been massive election fraud and that Trump had won the election.[7] Their effort was characterized by some as an implementation of Hitler's "big lie" propaganda technique.[20]​

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False or misleading statements by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The Barbarian]

I would consider both Trump and Biden to be pathological liars.

Comes down to evidence. Trump obviously. Biden, not so much.

I'd be open to further evidence, of course.

 

[ralliann]

Trump is lying. He will say anything to get elected.

The Marxist left are against Christianity. He is not lying....