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Trump tells Christians their 'religion will be in tatters' if Biden wins: 'We answer to God in Heaven'

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Didn't say I was. I'm just noting that the Pope and the American bishops by a 222 to 3 majority did not support the priest's stand on Biden. And yes, that is very significant as to Biden's standing as a Catholic.

It is concerning that a tiny majority of Catholic clergy in America have abandoned Church doctrine for political reasons. But we're all humans and not everyone lives up to his professed beliefs.
Do you realize how bad of a Catholic you'd have to be if even a local priest has the slightest reservation about whether you should receive communion? I think the answer is no.But I am willing to let any of our Catholic members share.
 
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Do you realize how bad of a Catholic you'd have to be if even a local priest has the slightest reservation about whether you should receive communion?
I'm just noting that it says more about the priest who rejects the word of the Pope and almost every American bishop. There will always be priests and occasionaly even bishops who reject the Church's teachings. But not that many of them.

It is concerning that a tiny majority of Catholic clergy in America have abandoned Church doctrine for political reasons. But we're all humans and not everyone lives up to his professed beliefs.
 
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It is concerning that a tiny majority of Catholic clergy in America have abandoned Church doctrine for political reasons.
How is denying Biden communion "abandoning Church doctrine?" What is the Catholic Church doctrine on abortion and those who practice and support them?
 
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Yes. It is a pesky little thing that gets in the way of "progress," and keeps democrats from getting stuff done.
Keeps them from "finishing the job" as Joe Biden says.

Sounds like something from"Good Fellas "
 
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Now it's bizarre internet claims that Biden "opened the borders" and screams that he's at once, senile and an evil mastermind. It's gotten a lot crazier since Trump introduced "truthful hyperbole" into politics.
It's a presidency by committee. Joe is just there to sign the papers. In fact, they even have him on camera asking "what am I signing?"

In ten years or so, there will be a confessional book, by a staffer or one of the cabal, telling of all the shenanigans going on in this administration. (My prediction)
 
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It's a presidency by committee. Joe is just there to sign the papers. In fact, they even have him on camera asking "what am I signing?"
Which Trump did sometimes. But mostly, he just signed whatever they put in front of him, except when he wandered off before signing:

When Trump wanted to do something especially deranged, his people just stole the papers off his desk.
Former White House chief economic adviser Gary Cohn swiped a letter he deemed dangerous to national security from the Oval Office desk to keep President Trump from signing it, according to Bob Woodward’s new book “Fear.”

The president’s signature would have removed the U.S. from a major trade agreement with South Korea, according to CNN, which obtained a copy of the book, out Sept. 11. Trump’s aides worried withdrawing from the deal would jeopardize a crucial national security program.

Cohn was “appalled” at the possibility of Trump signing the letter, Woodward reported.


Trump never noticed. By the next day, he was in a different world.
In ten years or so, there will be a confessional book, by a staffer or one of the cabal, telling of all the shenanigans going on in this administration. (My prediction)
Pretty much like every other administration. But I doubt if you'll something as disturbing as Biden's people stealing orders off his desk to keep him from signing them.
 
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Ask the Pope. And the 222 American Bishops who follow doctrine.
In other words you lnow nothing about what you are talking about. The Pope doesn't make Catholic doctrine.

Also, you forgot to answer the question as to the doctrine of the church regarding abortion and those who practice or support them? I am not going to let you off that easy.
 
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She was already separated from her first husband, and in the process of the divorce when he met her.

Not according to Bill Stevenson (Jill's ex husband).
Comes down to evidence. And dates of the separation were public information. Nice try, Bill.
 
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Ask the Pope. And the 222 American Bishops who follow doctrine.

In other words you lnow nothing about what you are talking about.
Well, you know how ignorant of Catholic Doctrine Barbarians can be...

The Pope doesn't make Catholic doctrine.
But the Pope and the Bishops do follow it. Except for 3 of them out of 230 plus bishops. No one's perfect.

Also, you forgot to answer the question as to the doctrine of the church regarding abortion and those who practice or support them?
Don't remember Biden or the Pope practicing abortion. Got some examples? I recognize the right of people to be racists. That doesn't mean I support them in being so.

Think.
 
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But the Pope and the Bishops do follow it.
Not necessarily, the Catholic Church has a dark history.
If you know anything about the Catholic Church, you would know that two sources of final authority are the Pope on matters of faith and morals, and the bishops in council.

Again, a topic you are unqualified to argue.
Well, you know how ignorant of history barbarians are.
 
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Forgot when he broke up his 2nd wife's first marriage. And was dating her while she still lived with her first husband.
No. Jill had finalized her divorce before their relationship. The two have been married for 45 years.

When Joe Biden met Jill Taylor Jacobs in 1975, he had recently suffered a horrific loss — his wife and daughter died in a car accident in 1972 (via Insider). Their two young sons, Hunter and Beau, survived. Jill was 24 when she met her future husband. At the time she was a senior in college and had recently finalized a divorce from her first husband.​


In contrast, Donald Trump committed adultery with his second wife while married to the first and had many rumored affairs. He was married to Marla (2nd wife) from 1993 - 1997 and then they filed for divorce. He met Melania in 1998 and they married in 2005. He had an affair with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal claimed they had an affair before that.

26 women have complained about sexual misconduct by Trump.

Huge difference between the two.
 
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This sounds somewhat similar to Biden threatening to withhold funds unless the prosecutor was fired and "S - -" he was fired!
Joe Biden was representing Obama, the International Monetary fund and many governments regarding that prosecutor.

What is ' "S - -" he was fired!' = you can pm me.
 
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