Trump tells Christians their 'religion will be in tatters' if Biden wins: 'We answer to God in Heaven'

[FreeinChrist]

Wasn’t she the babysitter?

She was a 24 year old college senior and they were introduced to each other by James Biden.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Please show us from. "the Gospel" how pro choice is supported.

Don't be baiting anyone.

IF anyone were to explain via scripture a view of abortion opposite from the view of the site, they'd get reported by member(s) and get a staff action.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Forgot when he broke up his 2nd wife's first marriage. And was dating her while she still lived with her first husband.

Well that isn't very Catholic of him.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Not according to Bill Stevenson (Jill's ex husband).

Jill Biden’s ex-husband accuses her of affair with Joe in 1970s

Jill Biden's ex-husband has accused the potential first lady of having an affair with Joe Biden and says they lied about how they met in the 1970s.

nypost.com

Is it now safe to bring up Biden's dirty laundry, or is it still off topic?

I responded to another member.

Read the OP for the topic.

 

[Chrystal-J]

Well that isn't very Catholic of him.

If Biden claims to be Catholic, then he shouldn't of married a divorced woman.

 

[FreeinChrist]

If Biden claims to be Catholic, then he shouldn't of married a divorced woman.

Well, that is between him and his church.

 

[Chrystal-J]

Well, that is between him and his church.

No, that's pretty clear Church doctrine. If he didn't proclaim his faith for political gain, then it would be between him and his confessor. But, Biden's the one who puts it on show all the time.

 

[FreeinChrist]

No, that's pretty clear Church doctrine. If he didn't proclaim his faith for political gain, then it would be between him and his confessor. But, Biden's the one who puts it on show all the time.

And yet I know many Catholics who are married to divorced people.

 

[Chrystal-J]

And yet I know many Catholics who are married to divorced people.

I know many people who went to prison, still don't want to go there. Catholics believe that you're living in an adulterous relationship when you marry a divorced person or you, yourself, are divorced and remarried.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Don't be baiting anyone.

IF anyone where to explain via scripture a view of abortion opposite from the view of the site, they'd get reported by member(s) and get a staff action.

Agreed.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I know many people who went to prison, still don't want to go there. Catholics believe that you're living in an adulterous relationship when you marry a divorced person or you, yourself, are divorced and remarried.

My in-laws are Catholic and several who attend church every week are married to divorcees.

 

[Chrystal-J]

My in-laws are Catholic and several who attend church every week are married to divorcees.

They're in a state of mortal sin and, under Catholic teaching, should be at confession. And they shouldn't receive communion.

 

[Truth7t7]

Forgot when he broke up his 2nd wife's first marriage. And was dating her while she still lived with her first husband.

Yep as her x husband stated on a Tucker Carlson interview, and her x husband was threatened by Bidens brother to give Jill the house or else while Biden was a Senator

 

[Chrystal-J]

Yep as her x husband stated on a Tucker Carlson interview, and her x husband was threatened by Bidens brother to give Jill the house or else while Biden was a Senator

I read that Biden used his political influence to harass Jill's ex.

 

[Truth7t7]

They're in a state of mortal sin and, under Catholic teaching, should be at confession. And they shouldn't receive communion.

100% correct, in other words no communion no Christ to a catholic

Jill Biden divorced her husband that's still living and married Joe Biden "Adultery"

 

[Truth7t7]

I read that Biden used his political influence to harass Jill's ex.

Yes as was stated in the Tucker Carlson interview recently

 

[Oompa Loompa]

And yet I know many Catholics who are married to divorced people.

That is true. However, technically, if the first marriage was not annulled, a Catholic priest is not allowed to marry them again. In fact, having an unbiblical divorce forbids people from receiving communion in the Catholic Church.

I also find it common that many people who call themselves "Catholic" do not actually practice the faith at all. It is used more as a title or identity statement. However, in all fairness, this is true for other denominations as well. My point is that just because somebody calls themselves "Christian" or "Catholic," doesn't mean they actually follow the teachings of Christ. It only means they recognize the existence of God, but nothing else. After all, James said, "You believe in one God, you'd do well. But even demons believe in God, and tremble." This, in my opinion makes these carnal Chriatians worse than demons. Because at least Demons have a holy fear of the Lord.

I also want to clarify that just because someone practices the Christian faith horribly, it doesn't mean they are "not real Christians" or that they are not saved. Only God can judge. Because Jesus did not come to the earth to make bad people good, he came to make dead people alive.

So, to bring this back on topic, it isn't fair to say whether or not Biden or Trump are not real Christians because they are both have a history that goes against Christ's teachings. It means that, just like all of us, they are imperfect humans who are saved by grace, not merit.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

My in-laws are Catholic and several who attend church every week are married to divorcees.

If their divorces were not annulled by the Catholic church, then I assure you that a Catholic priest did not remarry them.

 

[Chrystal-J]

So, to bring this back on topic, it isn't fair to say whether or not Biden or Trump are not real Christians because they are both have a history that goes against Christ's teachings. It means that, just like all of us, they are imperfect humans who are saved by grace, not merit.

That's true, although we are called to judge those within the Church.
(1 Corinthians 5:12-13)


12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

 

[Bobber]

Christianity would not be in tatters even if Christians were herded up and fed to the lions like in some Coliseum. It wasn't in tatters in the days of old Rome when that's what happened to them and it certainly wouldn't be today. Seeing through Trump's hyperbole though I get his meaning. The world view you hold dear with more so would be respected by his administration which might indeed be true.

People also get caught up in the issue of questioning whether Trump's personal morals reflects those of a Christian. Maybe they do maybe they don't but even if they don't it still doesn't do away with the fact that one administration might side in with a Christian world view more than another. In this regard we maybe can give Trump a credit. Consider perhaps he's right but he not expressing it a right way.

The issue for all Christians here though is this. Can you set aside his way of rhetoric, always not the wisest way of saying things but none the less having some truth in it......or are we to be moved by everything surface. If I were a pastor of a church though I'd tell people to pray about the government and be lead by your own conscience whether to vote or not, and to whom you would vote for. That is not for any other church leader to tell you about......Christian leaders should no 1 always put first place their congregations individual responsibility to hear from Christ the head of the church themselves about these issues.