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Kamala Harris for President - the excitement is growing

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wing2000

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Note that yesterday (July 23rd, 2024), Harris reached the point with
endorsements from Democratic delegates, to be the nominee.

Although Trump will probably file lawsuits, contending that she
cannot be the nominee, Kamala Harris informally already has the
nomination.

There is no legal basis for the referenced lawsuit. For starters, he doesn't have any standing for filing a complaint (he's not vying to be the Democratic nominee). Of course, Trump will do it anyway.
 
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And yet there's polling showing her ahead of her main rival.



I'm reminded of a thread thinking Biden was the same in 2020 so AOC could run this time around...
anything can happen,

but Harris is the most left-wing presidential candidate to ever run by a mile, and was one of the most liberal senators

the public wants illegal immigration reduced (55% say they want this, up fro 41% only 10 years ago according to polls), no open borders. Americans don't support reparations for slavery (which Harris has supported), and do not think illegal immigrants should get free healthcare (another thing Harris supported)

her economic and tax policies are hugely inflationary, and involve handing out a kind of UBI tax credit of 3-6k per family (cost=3 trillion), banning fracking nationwide (which would cause oil prices to soar), more corporate welfare in the form of "green new deal policy", and even tex reductions for the middle-class (taxes need to go up to deal with this fiscal crisis, not down --tax cuts for the middle-class will cost a lot more than tax increases for some rich people)

all this might be digestible if she had a good foreign policy, but she doesn't. She is interventionist, hawkish, and entirely in the pocket of the military-industrial complex

literally no one in our government has worse policies than this woman, when we take them in aggregate. It is welfare-warfare-inflation on steroids

when Americans are reminded of all this, they are going to sour on her quickly
 
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when Americans are reminded of all this, they are going to sour on her quickly
I think you are whistling in the wind here. Judging by the enthusiasm she is generating among many Americans, not all of them Democrat supporters, Harris is on to something.

You are basically saying that Harris has policies that are not Republican. In my view Republicans are much more exercised about immigration than Democrats, much less concerned about green issues then Democrats and very much more concerned to keep taxes low than Democrats. There is a progressive vote to be garnered which Republicans, especially someone like Trump, cannot hope to win.

The wind is changing.
 
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Nor was she involved in overseeing law-enforcement efforts or guiding the federal response to the crisis.
Did you not get the Dems talking point memo on the border problem? It's a challenge not a crisis.
 
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anything can happen,

but Harris is the most left-wing presidential candidate to ever run by a mile, and was one of the most liberal senators

... a default talking point for any Democrat.

the public wants illegal immigration reduced (55% say they want this, up fro 41% only 10 years ago according to polls), no open borders.

Good. I'm sure Harris is not avocating for an "open border" (meaning, no border control measures in place).

Americans don't support reparations for slavery (which Harris has supported),
Did Harris sign on to or sponsor any such legislation?
What is view today?

and do not think illegal immigrants should get free healthcare (another thing Harris supported)

...I believe Harris has supported health care for all people.

her economic and tax policies are hugely inflationary, and involve handing out a kind of UBI tax credit of 3-6k per family (cost=3 trillion),

Middle class families may beg to differ.

banning fracking nationwide (which would cause oil prices to soar), more corporate welfare in the form of "green new deal policy", and even tex reductions for the middle-class (taxes need to go up to deal with this fiscal crisis, not down --tax cuts for the middle-class will cost a lot more than tax increases for some rich people)

Hey, if you can convince the GOP an across the board tax increase is needed, let us know. The last GOP POTUS to do so was George H. W. Bush (Sr).

all this might be digestible if she had a good foreign policy, but she doesn't. She is interventionist, hawkish, and entirely in the pocket of the military-industrial complex

Such as?

literally no one in our government has worse policies than this woman, when we take them in aggregate. It is welfare-warfare-inflation on steroids

No one eh?
 
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Her actual assignment from Biden was to work with the leaders of the Northern Triangle to try and address some of the root causes of migration, through diplomatic and economic means.
Kamala was assigned by Biden the border immigration state of emergency

In the CBS clip below (30-45 seconds) she clearly states now is not the time to come, and she stated "We Will Enforce The Law"?

 
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In the fox clip below (30-45 seconds) she clearly states now is not the time to come, and she stated she would enforce the law

.....a statement made from Guatemala City, where she was meeting with Central American leaders.
 
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... a default talking point for any Democrat.
I don't remember that being a talking point about Biden
Good. I'm sure Harris is not avocating for an "open border" (meaning, no border control measures in place).
Remind me when Harris or even Biden instituted border restrictions and reduced illegal immigration. Illegal border crossings went from 400,000 in 2020 to over 2 million last year. Sure looks like that border is open --and it is deliberate
Did Harris sign on to or sponsor any such legislation?
Harris told Al Sharpton that if a slavery reparations bill came across her desk, and she were president, she would sign that bill. Go look it up (and she made other comments supporting reparations)
What is view today?



...I believe Harris has supported health care for all people.
I cannot think of a more hilarious example of deflection as this one --I would have to search the Internet. I point out that illegals shouldn't be getting free healthcare, and that Americans don't support that, and you respond with "she wants everyone to get healthcare" --seriously?
Middle class families may beg to differ.
the middle-class doesn't set economic or tax policy. Spending an additional 3 trillion dollars and handing it out to citizens will result in more inflation, interest rate hikes, and make the housing crisis much worse.
Hey, if you can convince the GOP an across the board tax increase is needed, let us know. The last GOP POTUS to do so was George H. W. Bush (Sr).
I am not arguing for tax cuts --the deficit and debt are too large because of the fiscal irresponsibility of both parties in the last couple decades.
It would be great if she had a plan to end the Ukraine conflict and do something about the bloodbath in Israel --but she doesn't and cannot even be bothered.
No one eh?
even AOC is better on Israel and Ukraine than Kamala. Harris combines the worst aspects of far-left domestic policy with militant foreign interventionism and crony-capitalism.
 
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Remind me when Harris or even Biden instituted border restrictions and reduced illegal immigration. Illegal border crossings went from 400,000 in 2020 to over 2 million last year. Sure looks like that border is open --and it is deliberate

Remind me when President Trump ever supported bi-partisan legislation to address border security?
He did not while POTUS.
And earlier this year, he directed his minions in Congress not to support border legislation because.......he (and many Republicans) don't want to solve border security.
 
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I think you are whistling in the wind here. Judging by the enthusiasm she is generating among many Americans, not all of them Democrat supporters, Harris is on to something.

You are basically saying that Harris has policies that are not Republican. In my view Republicans are much more exercised about immigration than Democrats, much less concerned about green issues then Democrats and very much more concerned to keep taxes low than Democrats. There is a progressive vote to be garnered which Republicans, especially someone like Trump, cannot hope to win.

The wind is changing.
You are drinking Kool-Aid

Even Bill Maher said she can't win and was a lousy VP with no record of achievement. The idea that moderate centrists are going to go over to Harris, a far-left, coastal Democrat with a bad record, is delusional
 
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Remind me when President Trump ever supported bi-partisan legislation to address border security?
He did not while POTUS.
And earlier this year, he directed his minions in Congress not to support border legislation because.......he (and many Republicans) don't want to solve border security.
There wouldn't;t be anything bi-partisan, because Democrats want open borders and demographic replacement

when Trump was in office, as I stated above, border crossings fell to 400k, largely because of policies like this:

 
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There wouldn't;t be anything bi-partisan, because Democrats want open borders and demographic replacement

I won't respond further if you're going to simply ignore past bi-partisan efforts to address border security.
 
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Must be a huge boost for the GOP that she's now the person running against Trump (who was voted worst president ever. Period). You must be so pleased.


'The survey from the Presidential Greatness Project went out to 525 "social science experts in presidential politics, as well as scholars who had recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses" between Nov. 15 and Dec. 31, 2023. The survey yielded 154 responses, which determined Trump was the worst president in U.S. history — even accounting for the participants' political views.

The participants graded each president on a scale of 0 to 100 with 0 being failure and 100 being great. The scores were then averaged and ranked from highest to lowest. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Abraham Lincoln, who proclaimed the abolition of slavery, came in first. Franklin D. Roosevelt was second and George Washington third. With a score of of 62.66, Biden arrived 14th. Trump ranked 46th — the very last spot — with a score of 10.92:'

You never know. If things go your way he'll get 46th and 47th.

PRESIDENTIAL GREATNESS PROJECT​


Evolving Values Of Our Times?

Abortion, Homosexuality, Transgenderism, Identity Politics, Progressive Liberalism, Gender Identity, Critical Race Theory?

Quote Article:
“Our latest rankings also show that the experts’ assessments are driven not only by traditional notions of greatness but also by the evolving values of our time.”

JUSTIN VAUGHN AND BRANDON ROTTINGHAUS
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You are drinking Kool-Aid

Even Bill Maher said she can't win and was a lousy VP with no record of achievement. The idea that moderate centrists are going to go over to Harris, a far-left, coastal Democrat with a bad record, is delusional
I must have been handed the glass - from a Republican!

We shall see.
 
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I won't respond further if you're going to simply ignore past bi-partisan efforts to address border security.
yes don't respond, because it is going to be nonsense gaslighting and bogus DNC talking-points used to excuse the border crisis and blame others

the president did NOT need further congressional intervention and new laws to enforce border policy. He ended remain in Mexico, reduced restrictions, flew in migrants, and border crossings skyrocketed.
 
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Evolving Values Of Our Times?

Abortion, Homosexuality, Transgenderism, Identity Politics, progressive liberalism, gender identity?
Yes. Harris has (almost) said as much. She is a progressive.

These are issues the Conservatives fret about. Maybe there are a majority of Americans with more tolerant attitudes.
 
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On her first foreign trip as Vice President in June 2021, Kamala Harris was tasked with delivering a blunt message in Guatemala City. "I want to be clear to folks in this region who are thinking about making that dangerous trek to the United States-Mexico border: Do not come," she said at a press conference, pausing for effect. "Do not come."​
Three years later, that sound bite may come to haunt Harris' nascent presidential campaign. Despite her warning, border crossings reached historic highs during the Biden Administration. Republican critics cast the episode as a symbol of Harris’s ineffective tenure as President Biden's "border czar," a misleading label they applied after she was charged with helming diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from Central America to the U.S. .....​
In fact, Harris was never put in charge of the border or immigration policy. Nor was she involved in overseeing law-enforcement efforts or guiding the federal response to the crisis. Her mandate was much narrower: to focus on examining and improving the underlying conditions in the Northern Triangle of Central America—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—which has been racked by decades of poverty, war, chronic violence, and political instability. The strategy relied on allocating billions for economic programs and stimulating private-sector investment in the region in hopes that these programs would ultimately lead fewer migrants to make the dangerous journey north.​
If the Republicans really cared about the border, they would have passed the bipartisan border bill. But Donald didn't want to give Biden a win so told them not to pass it.

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The border was fixed under President Trump, stay in Mexico policy was simple, you enter illegally into the US, you will be returned to Mexico where you illegally entered

There is no argument against the simple Tŕump policy that was in place when Biden took office, and then he removed it
 
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