Kamala Harris for President - the excitement is growing

[Bradskii]

Democrats saying Trump needs to be "taken out", "put in the bullseye", wishing the killer hadn't missed, displaying Trump's severed head, or saying they want to blow up the Whitehouse?

Anyone who said anything like that is an idiot. I notice that you didn't give a source, so maybe they were the rantings of some lunatic on social media. Who knows. Luckily I have a source for another example: Republican apologizes for threatening civil war if Trump loses 2024 election

“I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” Lang told a Republican audience at Vance’s former high school in Middletown, Ohio, as he prepared to introduce the vice-presidential nominee. “It’s the greatest experiment in the history of mankind, and if we come down to a civil war, I’m glad we got people like … Bikers for Trump” and the group’s national president, Mark “Smitty” Smith, “on our side”.

That was by an Ohio Republican, George Lang, introducing Vance. Great to know that we both abhor such comments. Well done.

 

[FreeinChrist]

aside from the stuff I have posted in the last week or so here: Democrats saying Trump needs to be "taken out", "put in the bullseye", wishing the killer hadn't missed, displaying Trump's severed head, or saying they want to blow up the Whitehouse?

You do realize that Kathy Griffiths picture of a severed Trump head was 4 years ago and he was heavily criticized for it by people on both sides??

No one said Trump needed to be "taken out" and the statement by Biden was intended on putting a focus on Trump. He didn't say to put him in the crosshairs.

Now I do remember a picture in a Georgia newspaper of Obama in the crosshairs of a rifle....

or Democrats posting "Popper's Paradox" memes on the Internet saying we need to dispense with things like freedom of speech and religion if we think those things allow "intolerant people" to operate with impunity --in other words, we cannot "tolerate" things we disagree with, and should start arresting people

or the countless articles and essays about Trump as a Fascist dictator who will overthrow the Republic, with hysterical calls to action. Here is an example:

Time to Roll the Dice

Biden’s party doesn’t need to sleepwalk into a catastrophe.

www.theatlantic.com

You are badly over-reacting imho.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Not like storming the Capitol. Not like making false claims about vote rigging. Not like calling the Governor of Georgia's office and begging for the Returning Officer to 'find thirteen thousand votes'.

Strange, I think I hear an echo.

QFT

 

[FreeinChrist]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-wisconsin-campaign-president/

Vice President Harris made her presidential campaign trail debut on Tuesday with record grassroots fundraising, the largest Democratic crowd to date and new polling showing the race now a tossup, as former president Donald Trump began adapting to her swift ascent to a likely Democratic nomination.

To a roaring crowd of thousands in this Milwaukee suburb, Harris moved to redefine the November election as a choice between the future and the past, a prosecutor and a felon. “I know Donald Trump’s type,” the former California attorney general said to chants of “Ka-ma-la.” The crowd, so large that organizers said they had to move the rally to a larger venue, also made a chorus out of her pledge, “We are not going back.”.....

One of the first national surveys conducted since the switch showed a tight race, with Harris at 44 percent to Trump’s 42 percent, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll. The same survey put Trump at 43 percent and Biden at 41 percent before the latter bowed out.

 

[ralliann]

Yeah, both parties issues were exposed over the past few years on both sides, with the Democrats going woke, and the Republicans going for a bigger government. I miss the days when the Republicans went for a small government, and Democrats went for helping poor US citizens.

Well IMO, the rino's are most part gone. Them and the dems were somewhat of a uniparty.

 

[AlexB23]

Well IMO, the rino's are most part gone. Them and the dems were somewhat of a uniparty.

RINO is a bit of a derogatory term, my friend. Yes, the Democrats have some issues, but calling a moderate or centrist Republican a RINO is a little off in my opinion as well. Jesus told us not to judge in Matthew 7.

 

[ralliann]

RINO is a bit of a derogatory term, my friend. Yes, the Democrats have some issues, but calling a moderate or centrist Republican a RINO is a little off in my opinion as well.

Opinion noted..

Jesus told us not to judge in Matthew 7.

Why pretend ? Worse has been said of Trump.

 

[AlexB23]

Opinion noted..

Why pretend ? Worse has been said of Trump.

Trump has also judged others as well. In other words, no one is perfect, but we must elect someone with humility.

 

[Hans Blaster]

anyway ... the Kamala couldn't muster 1% support in the Democratic primaries, and dropped out before any voting. Since then, she went on to become VP simply because Joe was obligated to choose a woman-of-color, not because she was qualified, or even liked.

Her focus was on general Democratic positions and how she would beat Trump and that just didn't catch the early primary electorate's attention. She didn't gain any traction in a field with over a dozen candidates many of which had ideological/factional bases (Warren/Sanders), so what?

and she became the worst VP in US presidential history. After being assigned the role of border czar, she didn't even bother visiting the border, and ignored it, as tens of millions of illegals flooded into the country.

she couldn't keep a staff together because everyone basically quit, saying she was incompetent, vindictive, and impossible to work for

after the first year or so, Biden took her responsibilities away from her, as her approval ratings went to historic lows

The US has a "Border Czar", sure it does.

 

[Truth7t7]

I think she is very electable. The ground swell of enthusiasm show that. Dems will show up at the ballot box.

Ground swell enthusiasm is yet to be seen, possibly she might increase the rally count to a high school basket ball court instead of Joe's basement

Kamala has shown her mental capacity, laughing and word salads, her gaffe count is just behind Biden in the world today

 

[Truth7t7]

The US has a "Border Czar", sure it does.

As Merril stated she was the assigned Border Czar and did "Nothing" but let more migrants enter the border illegally, possibly the worst VP in American history

 

[Bradskii]

Kamala has shown her mental capacity, laughing and word salads, her gaffe count is just behind Biden in the world today

You really want to hope that Trump doesn't go head to head with her in a debate.

 

[Arcangl86]

As Merril stated she was the assigned Border Czar

Except she wasn't. "Border Czar" was a title made up by Republicans to try and hang responsibility for the border on her. Her actual assignment from Biden was to work with the leaders of the Northern Triangle to try and address some of the root causes of migration, through diplomatic and economic means. And of course, migration patterns shifted and the Northern Triangle stopped being the source of migrants pretty quickly. And honestly the whole idea of Biden naming a "Border Czar" is ridiculous because there is no need for one. There is already a senior administration official responsible for border enforcement, the Secretary of Homeland Security. A Czar is only appointed when there needs to be somebody in teh White House to coordinate the efforts of several departments, which is not the case with the border.

and did "Nothing" but let more migrants enter the border illegally

Her mandate was never about border enforcement in the first place.

, possibly the worst VP in American history

Our third Vice President murdered a political rival, our sixth one was an alcoholic who spent almost no time in DC or fulfilling his role as President of the Senate, our seventh VP was one of the main instigators of the Nullification Crisis which was one of the events that led to the Civil War, our 13th served as VP for one month and spent pretty much that entire time overseas for personal reasons, and Spiro Agnew pled no contest for tax evasion and resigned his office in disgrace. But Kamala Harris is somehow worse than all of those?

 

[Bradskii]

...possibly the worst VP in American history

Must be a huge boost for the GOP that she's now the person running against Trump (who was voted worst president ever. Period). You must be so pleased.

'158 or 159 Presidential Historians' Voted Trump Worst President in US History?

U.S. President Joe Biden cited this survey during the June 27, 2024, presidential debate, urging viewers to "look it up."

www.snopes.com

'The survey from the Presidential Greatness Project went out to 525 "social science experts in presidential politics, as well as scholars who had recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses" between Nov. 15 and Dec. 31, 2023. The survey yielded 154 responses, which determined Trump was the worst president in U.S. history — even accounting for the participants' political views.

The participants graded each president on a scale of 0 to 100 with 0 being failure and 100 being great. The scores were then averaged and ranked from highest to lowest. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Abraham Lincoln, who proclaimed the abolition of slavery, came in first. Franklin D. Roosevelt was second and George Washington third. With a score of of 62.66, Biden arrived 14th. Trump ranked 46th — the very last spot — with a score of 10.92:'

You never know. If things go your way he'll get 46th and 47th.

 

[FreeinChrist]

As Merril stated she was the assigned Border Czar and did "Nothing" but let more migrants enter the border illegally, possibly the worst VP in American history

NOPE
I am making part of it bold

Kamala Harris Wasn't the ‘Border Czar.’ Here’s What She Did

Harris focused on improving conditions in Central America's Northern Triangle and addressing root causes of migration

time.com

On her first foreign trip as Vice President in June 2021, Kamala Harris was tasked with delivering a blunt message in Guatemala City. "I want to be clear to folks in this region who are thinking about making that dangerous trek to the United States-Mexico border: Do not come," she said at a press conference, pausing for effect. "Do not come."​

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Three years later, that sound bite may come to haunt Harris' nascent presidential campaign. Despite her warning, border crossings reached historic highs during the Biden Administration. Republican critics cast the episode as a symbol of Harris’s ineffective tenure as President Biden's "border czar," a misleading label they applied after she was charged with helming diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from Central America to the U.S. .....​

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In fact, Harris was never put in charge of the border or immigration policy. Nor was she involved in overseeing law-enforcement efforts or guiding the federal response to the crisis. Her mandate was much narrower: to focus on examining and improving the underlying conditions in the Northern Triangle of Central America—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—which has been racked by decades of poverty, war, chronic violence, and political instability. The strategy relied on allocating billions for economic programs and stimulating private-sector investment in the region in hopes that these programs would ultimately lead fewer migrants to make the dangerous journey north.​

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If the Republicans really cared about the border, they would have passed the bipartisan border bill. But Donald didn't want to give Biden a win so told them not to pass it.

sad

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[Pommer]

anything can happen

and there could be election malfeasance

remember that Democrats are saying Trump needs to be stopped by any means necessary, or it will be an "end of our republic" and an "end to democracy"

when people say stuff like that, it invites others to assume they will resort to illegal methods

I‘m going to accept the the results of the 2024 Presidential Election, which I’m still pretty sure will actually take place on 5 November 2024.

 

[Pommer]

You can see it so very obviously in any number of posts. The election has moved from being between two old men to one old man and a much younger, smarter woman who can string a sentence together without mentioning sharks and batteries, whales or Hannibal Lecter. Plus her main policies are ones that the majority of Americans support. Kinda handy when you're running for election.

Has anyone noticed that faint whiff of...not sure exactly what it might be...but there's a sense of it in the air. It's not exactly...panic. But it reminds me of it.

When you’re king of the hill there’s only one direction, Trump needs a clear clean(ish) win! over Kamala Harris or he’s done. If he wins 270-268, he’ll come into office like he’s got a 50 State mandate, and squander it.

If he was such a Great President one would have thought that he could have beaten Biden in ‘20, but he wasn’t/didn’t, and instead of a repeat, we’ll going to witness what a smart, tough, young, second-generation-immigrant fighter can do after she’s picked up the mantle from her old, ailing mentor and do battle with three-time nominee for the GOP, hoping for his first win of the popular vote!

 

[Pommer]

Opinion noted..

I got a month’s “vacation” for using that acronym, but since it’s been bandied about by a certain ex-President, I think that “rule” might be outdated?

Why pretend ? Worse has been said of Trump.

Oh, now we have to keep religion out of politics?

 

[KCfromNC]

No incumbent president or presidential candidate has ever won the general election with a 38.3% approval rating and a 51.4% disapproval rating this late in the election cycle.

And yet there's polling showing her ahead of her main rival.

She is likely a sacrificial lamb, as Dems focus on 2028,

I'm reminded of a thread thinking Biden was the same in 2020 so AOC could run this time around...

 

[Stephen3141]

Note that yesterday (July 23rd, 2024), Harris reached the point with
endorsements from Democratic delegates, to be the nominee.

Although Trump will probably file lawsuits, contending that she
cannot be the nominee, Kamala Harris informally already has the
nomination.