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Harris Team Boasts Record $81 Million Donations Within First 24 Hours​

Kamala Harris has pulled in $81 million in donations after Biden exited the race on Sunday, setting a new national record, her campaign announced Monday.

The donations add up to the highest amount raised by one candidate within a 24-hour period and include funds from more than 888,000 grassroots donors, 60% of whom were identified as first-time donors in the 2024 cycle, according to a statement released by her campaign.....

The total pulled in by Harris’ team adds to the $240 million already amassed by Democrats so far this election cycle, her campaign added.
Wow, $81M? This is awesome. For reference, 81 million dollars is roughly the cost of a Boeing 737-700 series passenger jet, a state-of-the-art aircraft, introduced in 1993. In theory, Harris' team could build and launch a high-tech satellite to orbit the moon, as the Chandrayaan-3 orbiter launched in 2023 from India to the moon had a total cost of $74M. Kamala Harris is taking off, my brothers and sisters. :)

India's $74M moon mission: India’s Ambitious Moon Mission Cost Less Than Hollywood Space Films—Here’s What You Need To Know

Source: Boeing aircraft prices 2022 | Statista
 
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Harris Team Boasts Record $81 Million Donations Within First 24 Hours​

Kamala Harris has pulled in $81 million in donations after Biden exited the race on Sunday, setting a new national record, her campaign announced Monday.

The donations add up to the highest amount raised by one candidate within a 24-hour period and include funds from more than 888,000 grassroots donors, 60% of whom were identified as first-time donors in the 2024 cycle, according to a statement released by her campaign.....

The total pulled in by Harris’ team adds to the $240 million already amassed by Democrats so far this election cycle, her campaign added.
Praying for the best for our nation and all our leaders.
 
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Obama hasn't endorsed her nor have Schumer and Jeffries. NYT covered both.

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Obama will hold back. He did before.
 
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It can go both ways.
There is a big difference between a party that supports peaceful protest and a party that supports storming the capital when their candidate loses.
 
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There is a big difference between a party that supports peaceful protest and a party that supports storming the capital when their candidate loses.
Huh....???? That's not even close to right.
 
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There is a big difference between a party that supports peaceful protest and a party that supports storming the capital when their candidate loses.
I dropped in $5 (not recurring) in the effort to stop the rise of a dictatorship in a democratically elected Constitutional Republic.
 
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If anyone on this subforum seriously believes that electing Trump to POTUS would give rise to a dictatorship in the USA, then I believe that you are agreeing with the same rhetoric from media talking heads, media influencers, and Democratic Party politicians which probably motivated the young man who came very close to assassinating Donald Trump. I apologize for going off topic of this thread. But do the liberals on this forum really and truly believe that a Donald Trump presidency in 2025 would actually and honestly BE A dictatorship?
 
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If anyone on this subforum seriously believes that electing Trump to POTUS would give rise to a dictatorship in the USA, then I believe that you are agreeing with the same rhetoric from media talking heads, media influencers, and Democratic Party politicians which probably motivated the young man who came very close to assassinating Donald Trump.
At this point, there's zero indication that Crooks had any political motivation. In the period leading up to the shooting, he was researching various high-profile figures and their upcoming public appearances. Trump just happened to be convenient in that he was having a rally an hour away.
I apologize for going off topic of this thread. But do the liberals on this forum really and truly believe that a Donald Trump presidency in 2025 would actually and honestly BE A dictatorship?
He's given many indications that he would try. Would he succeed? Probably not. But I'm not into tempting fate.
 
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At this point, there's zero indication that Crooks had any political motivation. In the period leading up to the shooting, he was researching various high-profile figures and their upcoming public appearances. Trump just happened to be convenient in that he was having a rally an hour away.
I have to wonder why, after more than 7 days after July 13th, the official investigators have revealed relatively little personal information and personal motivation for Crooks. What are the chances that a 20 year old young man had extremely little, if any, social media profile?. How come it doesn't take long for relevant personal motivation for other criminal shooters in the news to be released, but with Crooks??? Well, we are still waiting. Again, my friends, please accept my apology for going waaaay off topic of this thread. Thank you.
 
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I have to wonder why, after more than 7 days after July 13th, the official investigators have revealed relatively little personal information and personal motivation for Crooks. What are the chances that a 20 year old young man had extremely little, if any, social media profile?. How come it doesn't take long for relevant personal motivation for other criminal shooters in the news to be released, but with Crooks??? Well, we are still waiting. Again, my friends, please accept my apology for going waaaay off topic of this thread. Thank you.
It probably takes weeks, or even months for criminal investigations. For myself, I do not use social media except for this forum, so one could say I have a low paper trail as well, but I do not do crimes. :)

I watch police videos (Code Blue Cam), and it saddens me to see people get released on $500 bonds, only to commit the same crimes again and again instead of being put in jail for a long time. It would be nice to see if this kid had a criminal record, and if he was released on a small bond in the past, but I do not follow this dark news that much. Then, we could potentially figure out if this guy should have been in jail ages ago.
 
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I have to wonder why, after more than 7 days after July 13th, the official investigators have revealed relatively little personal information and personal motivation for Crooks. What are the chances that a 20 year old young man had extremely little, if any, social media profile?. How come it doesn't take long for relevant personal motivation for other criminal shooters in the news to be released, but with Crooks??? Well, we are still waiting. Again, my friends, please accept my apology for going waaaay off topic of this thread. Thank you.
It is really off topic.
 
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There is a big difference between a party that supports peaceful protest and a party that supports storming the capital when their candidate loses.
Yup. I don’t support what happened after Biden was elected on January 6th. That was uncalled for.
 
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Huh....???? That's not even close to right.
Please elaborate. I'm not above considering another's opinion. I am even open minded enough to change my opinion if I hear compelling information contrary to my current stance.

I first thought of why do many Liberal/Progressive protests or independent protests for Liberal/Progressive issues turn bad? My feeling is that the people who are breaking the rules of peaceful protest are not members of the DNC, or the other organizations that promote DNC issues. There are opportunists. The first organized group I'm thinking of is Anarchists who want zero government. The second group of people I am thinking of is people who just want to destroy,vandalize, and loot stuff.

The difference that I am highlighting is that the leader of the RNC encouraged his protest group to rush the capital making there crime endorsed by the party.

I look forward to hearing why I am wrong if you will indulge me.
 
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Please elaborate. I'm not above considering another's opinion. I am even open minded enough to change my opinion if I hear compelling information contrary to my current stance.

I first thought of why do many Liberal/Progressive protests or independent protests for Liberal/Progressive issues turn bad? My feeling is that the people who are breaking the rules of peaceful protest are not members of the DNC, or the other organizations that promote DNC issues. There are opportunists. The first organized group I'm thinking of is Anarchists who want zero government. The second group of people I am thinking of is people who just want to destroy,vandalize, and loot stuff.

The difference that I am highlighting is that the leader of the RNC encouraged his protest group to rush the capital making there crime endorsed by the party.

I look forward to hearing why I am wrong if you will indulge me.
It appears you and I are political opposites, since I disagree with every point in your post.

...With that being said, I'm sure neither of us are going to sway from our standpoints, so to spar with one another on political topics would surely be a wasted effort. Sorry to disappoint.
 
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Please elaborate. I'm not above considering another's opinion. I am even open minded enough to change my opinion if I hear compelling information contrary to my current stance.

I first thought of why do many Liberal/Progressive protests or independent protests for Liberal/Progressive issues turn bad? My feeling is that the people who are breaking the rules of peaceful protest are not members of the DNC, or the other organizations that promote DNC issues. There are opportunists. The first organized group I'm thinking of is Anarchists who want zero government. The second group of people I am thinking of is people who just want to destroy,vandalize, and loot stuff.

The difference that I am highlighting is that the leader of the RNC encouraged his protest group to rush the capital making there crime endorsed by the party.

I look forward to hearing why I am wrong if you will indulge me.

It appears you and I are political opposites, since I disagree with every point in your post.

...With that being said, I'm sure neither of us are going to sway from our standpoints, so to spar with one another on political topics would surely be a wasted effort. Sorry to disappoint.
As our good friend opined: The first organized group I'm thinking of is Anarchists who want zero government.

Since you disagree with their “every point”, are they incorrect about the political-theory known as anarchly?
 
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As our good friend opined: The first organized group I'm thinking of is Anarchists who want zero government.

Since you disagree with their “every point”, are they incorrect about the political-theory known as anarchly?
Not sure discussing that here would be considered "on-topic". Sorry.
 
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