On Trump's 2025 Plan, if he gets re-elected as president

[Vambram]

You haven't watched the ABC 4.Corners special

Coming from ABC, all I see and hear from them is "blah blah blah." They are not a reliable source at all in my opinion.

 

[eclipsenow]

Coming from ABC, all I see and hear from them is "blah blah blah." They are not a reliable source at all in my opinion.

The Australian ABC sorry - not the American channel.
I usually love them.
What factual errors have you found?
Or do you just stick your fingers in your ears and say "blah blah blah" like you did above any time you hear data against your political preferences?

 

[o_mlly]

Trump Speech...

Gilded: covered or tinged with gold or a golden color.

Gilded Age: The term “gilded age” was coined by Mark Twain and Charles Dudley Warner in a book titled The Gilded Age: A Tale of Today.3 Published in 1873, the book satirized the thin “gilding” of economic well-being that overlaid the widespread poverty, corruption, and labor exploitation that characterized the period.

Speech...

America’s on the cusp of a new golden age, but we will have the courage to seize it. We’re going to take it, we’re going to make it a current — I mean, we’re going to bring this into a golden age like never seen before.

~bella

Uh ..., "gilded age" and "golden age" are not synonyms but closer to being antonyms.

Emotionalism relies on feelings and despises thought.

Yes and we all hope that those suffering from TDS get the help they clearly need.

 

[Servus]

Uh ..., "gilded age" and "golden age" are not synonyms but closer to being antonyms.


Yes and we all hope that those suffering from TDS get the help they clearly need.

JD Vance managed to get over it.

 

[o_mlly]

JD Vance managed to get over it.

Was Vance ever diagnosed with TDS? I don't believe so. If you don't have "it" then you cannot "get over it".

Unlike many who opposed Trump emotionally, Vance voted for Trump in 2020. After seeing Trump follow through with his campaign pledges, many 2020 "Never Trumpers" became "Trumpers". Vance led the change.

 

[bèlla]

Uh ..., "gilded age" and "golden age" are not synonyms but closer to being antonyms.

Gilding is gold as some symbols for cryptocurrency. It's also the hue most associated with Trump. If you read my previous post (#137) you'd recognize the connection. No one spends $844,000 to hear someone speak or a $100,000 on a photo without reason.

~bella

 

[The Barbarian]

"The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math and 24th in science."

If you break it down by states, you'll find quite a difference. Some states are world-class. Others are out there with Yemen. Divide them into red and blue states and you'll learn something important about what republicans mean to student achievement in America. And that's not true everywhere; some red states in the west do a pretty good job. There are other factors than extreme right politics that matter.

 

[The Barbarian]

OH ! So its only Republicans who gerrymander and commit voter fraud??

No. There are cases of democrats using Gerrymandering. But I notice republicans are fighting any attempt to ban it, ,and democrats are advocating banning it. For the obvious reasons. And only one party had to be put under court supervision for decades to prevent them from committing voter fraud. (Hint: it wasn't the democrats)

And if you check the lists of the proven cases of voter fraud in the last few elections, guess who it is almost always doing the fraud? Yep. Either democrat cheaters are incredibly smart, republican cheaters are incredibly dumb, or republicans commit more voter frauds than democrats. Given the court order and the people actually caught doing voter fraud, the last possibility seems to be the correct interpretation.

 

[eclipsenow]

After seeing Trump follow through with his campaign pledges...

Biden was the one who is bringing manufacturing jobs home again under IRA. The amount of new batteries America will build by 2030 would be equivalent to supplying 100% of all new cars sold in America. (Although of course those batteries will be spread amongst different sectors.) There are so many new factories opening up across various states that it's like a construction boom. And don't forget that Biden is bringing the chips back to America, with the Taiwanese company a green to build computer chips in America under Bidenomics. De-risking from China and potential war over Taiwan is just good economic policy. And Trump calls this the radical socialist left? Oh my! The Democrats don't even go on about Medicare for all - something us Australians and most OECD countries take for granted. Your Democrats are further right than our conservative party!

 

[eclipsenow]

Gilding is gold as some symbols for cryptocurrency. It's also the hue most associated with Trump. If you read my previous post (#137) you'd recognize the connection. No one spends $844,000 to hear someone speak or a $100,000 on a photo without reason.

~bella

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Well - no Rational reason I can think of. The last thing I want to do is hear Trump speak!

 

[bèlla]

Trump says he hopes market crashes in 2024 under Biden: 'I don't want to be Herbert Hoover'

'We have an economy that's so fragile, and the only reason it's running now is it's running off the fumes of what we did - what the Trump administration [did], it's just running off the fumes. And when there's a crash, I hope it's going to be during this next 12 months, because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover.'

Herbert Hoover was president when U.S. stocks crashed in 1929.

~bella

 

[The Barbarian]

It is a constant source of irritation to Trump that the economy, even after the crash of the pandemic, is running better under Biden than it did under Trump.

So he's praying for a crash to salvage his reputation. Doesn't look very likely right now.

 

[The Barbarian]

And don't forget that Biden is bringing the chips back to America, with the Taiwanese company a green to build computer chips in America under Bidenomics.

But remember Trump got a huge chip plant built in Wisconsin! There was a groundbreaking and everything....

Trump Comes To Wisconsin For Foxconn Groundbreaking With Walker, Protesters In Tow

President Donald Trump and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker have grabbed a pair of golden shovels and moved piles of dirt under the hot June sun as part of a ceremonial […]

www.wpr.org

oh wait...

Foxconn mostly abandons $10 billion Wisconsin project touted by Trump​

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/foxconn-mostly-abandons-10-billion-wisconsin-project-touted-by-trump.htmle

Like his promises to balance the budget, improve healthcare, and so on. No one ever trusted Donald Trump, who didn't live to regret it.

 

[o_mlly]

No one spends $844,000 to hear someone speak or a $100,000 on a photo without reason.

Reason? The buyers are supporting their preferred candidate for POTUS. Your "gilded age" and "golden age" metaphor still escapes me.

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump has announced that he's for sale.

Trump makes sweeping promises to donors on audacious fundraising tour​

By tying donation requests to pledges of tax cuts and other policies, Trump is testing the boundaries of federal campaign finance laws.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/28/trump-wealthy-donors-fundraising/

 

[o_mlly]

Biden was the one who is bringing manufacturing jobs home again under IRA.

Need a reputable citation to support your claim.

BTW, the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act should have been named the New Green EV Deal.

The amount of new batteries America will build by 2030 would be equivalent to supplying 100% of all new cars sold in America.

Need a reputable citation to support your claim. I read that EV sales are not meeting expectation and car manufacturers are pulling back on planned investment to build EV's. It's a sin in product development is to develop a product that nobody wants. It's a mortal sin to do that with other people's money.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/cars/biden-evs-usde-billion-manufacturing/index.html

America's plan to replace gas guzzlers with electric cars was doomed from the start

The sudden slowdown in electric car sales is a symptom of a much uglier problem.

www.businessinsider.com

The EV push is not market driven but driven by the unproven claims of "climate change" enthusiasts. The economics of EV technology is unproven and looking less likely. The dirt-to-dirt environmental impacts do not appear to favor EV's. The infrastructure to support EV's is underdeveloped. Even with subsidies, EV sales are not meeting targets. How could anything so poorly thought through go so wrong? Progressives. Don't get me started on windmills and solar as reliable economically viable energy sources.

There are so many new factories opening up across various states that it's like a construction boom.

Need a reputable citation to support your claim.

And don't forget that Biden is bringing the chips back to America, with the Taiwanese company a green to build computer chips in America under Bidenomics.

I suppose you meant "a green light to build". Biden's Chips and Science Act includes $39 billion in subsidies for chip manufacturing on U.S. soil along with 25% investment tax credits for costs of manufacturing equipment, and $13 billion for semiconductor research and workforce training.

The COVID pandemic showed that it's necessary to deglobalize the production of chips back to the USA. It's also expensive and we're broke. The $39 billion and $13 billion are an out-of-pocket expense adding to deficits. The 25% tax credits will reduce government revenues also pressuring Yellen to borrow even more money.

 

[okay]

Clearly, proponents of project 2025 think the president should have way more power and control than they do now. For example, if project 2025 were implemented the president would have the power to fire many federal employees with actual expertise (many of whom have worked under administrations of both parties) and replace them with people based on political loyalty. These political appointees would then be free to use the power of their government agencies to do whatever the president asks them to do.

For me, the measure of whether this is a good idea is to answer the following question:

Would I want <insert name of who I think is the most dangerous politician opposed to my views> to have this amount of power and lack of oversight?

If not, then it is a bad idea.

 

[Merrill]

Trump says he hopes market crashes in 2024 under Biden: 'I don't want to be Herbert Hoover'

'We have an economy that's so fragile, and the only reason it's running now is it's running off the fumes of what we did - what the Trump administration [did], it's just running off the fumes. And when there's a crash, I hope it's going to be during this next 12 months, because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover.'

Herbert Hoover was president when U.S. stocks crashed in 1929.

~bella

We are very late in the business cycle, and inflation is still a problem (sticky)

Equities are overvalued, especially tech stocks

Real estate is in a full-blown bubble

labor market is weakening, although still relatively strong (unemployment rate has climbed for 3 straight months). Earnings have been mixed

consumers are carrying record debt

so we are running on fumes to some degree. But the rest of the world is doing worse, so the US is a bit of a safe-haven

here is what could cause a major correction or crash:

1. The Federal Reserve elects NOT to cut rates in September --and I think there is a 50% chance of that. Powell does not want to be seen as influencing the election, and he is still worried about inflation. That will send the stock market tumbling 10-20%

2. A flood of bad earnings reports, declining consumer confidence and spending, combined with #1 above

3. Something happening overseas, like an escalation in Ukraine, leading to a spike in oil prices

So Trump could inherit a big mess for sure

 

[bèlla]

So Trump could inherit a big mess for sure

All that you've said is correct. But most believe what they hear. They're not reading reports, listening to calls or watching events. They're getting the information elsewhere instead of going to the source. The reason they can tell them we're okay is because that's what they want to hear.

~bella

 

[eclipsenow]

Need a reputable citation to support your claim.

BTW, the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act should have been named the New Green EV Deal.

Yeah - because weaning off oil and saving American's from particulate cancer would be just awful!
---From the White House---

Just twelve months after the law was signed, it is already having a significant impact on American workers and families, and is delivering for underserved communities and those that have been too often left behind. Outside groups estimate the Inflation Reduction Act’s clean energy and climate provisions have created more than 170,000 clean energy jobs already, companies have announced over $110 billion in clean energy manufacturing investments in the last year alone, the law is delivering billions of dollars to protect communities from the impacts of climate change, and millions of seniors are saving money because their insulin is capped at $35 per month.

Today, to mark the anniversary of the Inflation Reduction Act, the Biden-Harris Administration is releasing a new feature on Invest.gov that highlights stories of how the Inflation Reduction Act and Bidenomics are making a difference for Americans in all 50 states and U.S. territories. Bidenomics is the President’s vision for growing the economy from the middle out and bottom up, including by investing in America, creating good-paying union jobs, and lowering cost for American families.
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In the 12 months since the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law:

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• The private sector has announced more than $110 billion in new clean energy manufacturing investments, including more than $70 billion in the electric vehicle (EV) supply chain and more than $10 billion in solar manufacturing. Since the President was elected, the private sector has announced approximately $240 billion in new clean energy manufacturing investments.
• Investments in clean energy and climate since the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law have created more than 170,000 jobs, and the law is projected to create more than 1.5 million additional jobs over the next decade according to estimates by outside groups.
• Public and private sector investments driven by the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law are expected to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by approximately 1 billion tons in 2030.
• The Administration has already awarded over a billion dollars to help communities become more resilient and protect them from the disastrous impacts of climate change, including drought, heat, and extreme weather.
• American families are projected to save $27-38 billion on their electricity bills from 2022-2030 relative to a scenario without the Inflation Reduction Act, according to new data released by the Department of Energy today.
• Nearly 15 million people are saving an average of $800 per year on their health insurance premiums, the nation’s uninsured rate has reached an historic low, and millions of seniors on Medicare are paying less in out-of-pocket costs for prescription drugs—including insulin, which is capped at $35 per month.
• The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is strengthening enforcement against wealthy tax cheats and increasing recoveries from delinquent millionaires—while improving customer service for law-abiding taxpayers, including cutting phone wait times from 28 minutes last tax season to 3 minutes this year.
  
  

  FACT SHEET: One Year In, President Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act is Driving Historic Climate Action and Investing in America to Create Good Paying Jobs and Reduce Costs | The White House

  One year ago, on August 16, 2022, President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act into law – the largest investment in clean energy and climate action

  www.whitehouse.gov