Miracles & Healings

[AV1611VET]

1Kings7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

Okay.

That's what I thought you were talking about.

Like I said I wanted to do the math to see how wide the brim was at the top.

Even if it didn't have a brim at all -- (but I think it did) -- but even if it didn't have a brim at all, it's just a rough draft.

And any draftsman knows that you stamp NTS (Not To Scale) on a rough draft.

Therefore anyone saying that verse shows that Pi=3.0 is not taking draftsmanship into account.

Remember:

Whenever science substantiates the Bible, non-believers are willing to tell science to take a hike.

 

[Ace777]

A sick girl of about 12 years old

I attended a church where the pastor preached hundreds of sermons on the mind of christ. There are many scriptures that tells us what it means to have the mind of Christ. It is a part of being born again. For example courage, boldness and hope are all a part of this. The list just goes on and on.

 

[Ace777]

it's just a rough draft.

I use to do that for a living. I had to take the blueprint and come up with shop prints because they were not able to figure out the math in the shop. I even use to make some templets. They want to draw a pretty picture and then expect you to build it in the real world.

 

[AV1611VET]

I use to do that for a living. I had to take the blueprint and come up with shop prints because they were not able to figure out the math in the shop. I even use to make some templets. They want to draw a pretty picture and then expect you to build it in the real world.

Ah, yes.

The old square and compass drawings!

Reminds me of science that used to show the flow of electricity running backwards on them, because they thought electrons had a positive charge.

 

[Ace777]

Good grief, man. Get a grip.

Do you think that you can know what you know even if you do not think you know?

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you think that you can know what you know even if you do not think you know?

Yup.

For 76 years, it was "known" that Pluto was our 9th planet.

 

[Ace777]

Reminds me of science that used to show the flow of electricity running backwards on them, because they thought electrons had a positive charge.

Were you able to run fast enough to catch it? Tesla worked for Edison who wanted to promote DC. Then he decided to quit and go work for Westinghouse to promote AC. There was a big battle over that at the time.

 

[Ace777]

For 76 years, it was "known" that Pluto was our 9th planet.

I am sure there is an exact math for how many books you can sell and how much money you can put in your pocket if you mess with Pluto. You have to be a little bit goofy to do that.

 

[Ace777]

I am not making claims about remembering things happening that I didn't experience.

Oh, I see you forget and do not remember making those claims.

My statement was: "I remember when penicillin came out they considered this a medical miracle." You are having a fit because I did not say: I remember THAT when Penicillin came out. Which is why I flunked English in College. I wonder do you kick people in wheelchairs and demand they get up and walk or do you show a bit of consideration?

Matthew 5:8 "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Hey, guys? So, this thread was opened in the Physical and Life SCIENCES forum. I responded to the OP with my thoughts on how we could look at this topic scientifically and since then it has rapidly devolved into pseudoscience, anecdotes and theology. Perhaps we should just move this to the kitchen sink or an apologetics forum?

 

[AV1611VET]

Were you able to run fast enough to catch it?

Nope.

The speed of light, which scientists say is a constant, has changed some five times!

 

[AV1611VET]

Hey, guys? So, this thread was opened in the Physical and Life SCIENCES forum. I responded to the OP with my thoughts on how we could look at this topic scientifically and since then it has rapidly devolved into pseudoscience, anecdotes and theology. Perhaps we should just move this to the kitchen sink or an apologetics forum?

Get it off the courthouse lawn, right?

Because of the mention of "miracles"?

 

[Larniavc]

No pun intended right? My father had 15 degrees and certificates in hypnosis. I gave them to the historical society. He could hypnotise a whole audience. He hypnotised my whole school once. Except for me because as you say, it is all make believe. He also had 16 medical degrees and certificates, I am pretty sure that was not make believe. I still have those.

So doing all those back to back degrees took about a hundred years, so....... you're lying?

 

[Ace777]

So doing all those back to back degrees took about a hundred years, so....... you're lying?

His favorite story was when the TV was broken and his favorite program was going to be on that night. Back then the TV had tubes so you could look to see what was lit up and go to the drug store to get a new one. But he was busy so he hired a TV repair man to fix it. Then the guy gave him a bill for $10. When my dad protested the guy said you do not understand. I had to go to school for 9 months to learn how to do this. My dad said he went to high school, then college, then medical school, then intern, then residency then he served in the army to pay for it all. So he studied for over 15 years and he ONLY charge $5 for house calls. So he went back to the office the next day and raised his rate from $5 to $10. The thing is he would do a follow up. Bring them into the office so we can check to make sure they are ok. Of course the parents would always do what the doctor told them. Only it was just for the money. He knew they were going to be fine.

 

[Larniavc]

His favorite story was when the TV was broken and his favorite program was going to be on that night. Back then the TV had tubes so you could look to see what was lit up and go to the drug store to get a new one. But he was busy so he hired a TV repair man to fix it. Then the guy gave him a bill for $10. When my dad protested the guy said you do not understand. I had to go to school for 9 months to learn how to do this. My dad said he went to high school, then college, then medical school, then intern, then residency then he served in the army to pay for it all. So he studied for over 15 years and he ONLY charge $5 for house calls. So he went back to the office the next day and raised his rate from $5 to $10. The thing is he would do a follow up. Bring them into the office so we can check to make sure they are ok. Of course the parents would always do what the doctor told them. Only it was just for the money. He knew they were going to be fine.

Your dad wasn’t telling you the truth.

 

[Ace777]

Your dad wasn’t telling you t

He was stationed in Germany right after WW2. He was one of the first to see the conditions in the concentration camps. He went back 20 years later and said he could still smell the burnt flesh after all those years. I do not know if he told the truth about that. Maybe it was just his imagination that he could smell the burnt flesh of the people who were killed in the holocausts. I do not know what you think he lied about. He had a very extreme degree of being dependable. If he said something you could be sure he would do what he said. If he said he would perform an operation, than he would be there on time to do the operation. He loved that sort of stuff. He was very hands on and did a lot of broken bones and stitching people up. Doctors were more of a clinic back then, Now they tend to send people to the emergency room. The historical society has some of his stuff on display and people still remember him because he had four generations of patients. He loved his work and he worked 12 hours a day six days a week for 50 years. Then my brother made him retire when he was 86. His wife at the time took his car keys away from him. Otherwise he would have kept going as long as he could. The main thing they wanted was his sign. I use to touch up the paint on the letters myself. I did a lot of his maintenance work on the building he used.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/ohio/name/william-rogers-obituary?id=20816132

 

[Larniavc]

He loved his work and he worked 12 hours a day six days a week for 50 years.

So when did he have the time to do his 30+ 3-6 year degrees?

 

[Ace777]

So when did he have the time to do his 30+ 3-6 year degrees?

He had lots of certificates and diploma's. I never asked him how long some of them took. I know the high school, college and medical school were four years each. Although my brother got his PhD in three years. He graduated in college in three years also because he was taking 22 credit hours a semester. You keep asking me about this. I already gave the certificates and diplomas on hypnotism to the historical society. These are the ones he had hanging in his office for 50 years. Do you really want me to photograph every one of them? Did you read his obituary to see all the committee's he served on or presided over. He was a very busy person.

 

[Larniavc]

He had lots of certificates and diploma's. I never asked him how long some of them took. I know the high school, college and medical school were four years each. Although my brother got his PhD in three years. He graduated in college in three years also because he was taking 22 credit hours a semester. You keep asking me about this. I already gave the certificates and diplomas on hypnotism to the historical society. These are the ones he had hanging in his office for 50 years. Do you really want me to photograph every one of them? Did you read his obituary to see all the committee's he served on or presided over. He was a very busy person.


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I'm sure your dad was very learned but 60+ (at least) three year degrees is impossible. I've told you a thousand times: please stop exaggerating.*

* for the people in the cheap seats I could not resist it.

 

[Ace777]

I'm sure your dad was very learned but 60+ (at least) three year degrees is impossible. I've told you a thousand times: please stop exaggerating.*

I said 15 and 15 adds up to 30. I just gave you a picture of the 15 medical degrees. LIke I said I gave the ones on hypnosis to the historical society. Not that any of this matters for anything. I come from a very respectable family. If you want to show disrespect for respectable people than that is on you not me. You will reap what you sow and you will be treated the way you treat others.