Sinning Willfully, a study in Hebrews

[HIM]

Remember We Have been sanctified by the blood of Jesus once and for all. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctify to the purifying of the flesh in the old Temple service. How more shall the blood of Christ. Who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot. Purge (sanctify fully) your conscience (who we are. the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the Living God. For it was impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. Because if the worshippers were purged they would have been perfected, the conscience, who we are would have been purged and there would not have been a remembrance of sin every year. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. But you know He was manifested to take away our sin and in Him is no sin. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. For by one offering He have perfected forever us whom are sanctified. Whereof this perfection the Holy Ghost has witnessed to us before when He saith, I will put my commandments in your hearts and in your minds will I write them. And your sins and iniquities will no longer be brought to my remembrance. Now where remission of these is there is no offering for sin.
Little children let no man deceive you. He that does righteousness is righteous EVEN AS He is righteous. He that sins is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested. To destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he can not sin. For he is born of God, begotten by the word of truth. A new creature with the engrafted word.. God's Law in their hearts and minds. His word in our hearts and mouths that we do it. That is the faith that we preach. Because that is who we are in Christ. He is the first among many brethren, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
So Let us be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live. Partaking of His Holiness yielding the peaceable fruit of righteousness. For He has made a straight path for our feet to be healed.
SO exhort one another daily as we see the day approaching. For if we are sinning willfully, presumptuously, (Num. 15:30) after receiving the knowledge of this truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. Only Judgment and fiery indignation which shall devour the adversaries. He that set aside Moses Law died under two or three witnesses. How much sorer punishment do you think one is worthy that has done despite unto the Spirit of Grace. It will be a terrible thing to fall into the hands of God. For that which beareth thorns and briers will be rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. So we say again, let's exhort one another daily as we see the Day approaching. For How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein? As Scripture says, The just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that are of faith into the saving soul. So, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us lest we ourselves are casted away. Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider Him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. For Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. But God is faithful. He will suffer you to be tempted above that you are able to bear. But with the temptation give you a way to escape. For it is He that works in you both to will and do His good pleasure. Amen

 

[Grip Docility]

Remember We Have been sanctified by the blood of Jesus once and for all. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctify to the purifying of the flesh in the old Temple service. How more shall the blood of Christ. Who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot. Purge (sanctify fully) your conscience (who we are. the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the Living God. For it was impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. Because if the worshippers were purged they would have been perfected, the conscience, who we are would have been purged and there would not have been a remembrance of sin every year. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. But you know He was manifested to take away our sin and in Him is no sin. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. For by one offering He have perfected forever us whom are sanctified. Whereof this perfection the Holy Ghost has witnessed to us before when He saith, I will put my commandments in your hearts and in your minds will I write them. And your sins and iniquities will no longer be brought to my remembrance. Now where remission of these is there is no offering for sin.
Little children let no man deceive you. He that does righteousness is righteous EVEN AS He is righteous. He that sins is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested. To destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he can not sin. For he is born of God, begotten by the word of truth. A new creature with the engrafted word.. God's Law in their hearts and minds. His word in our hearts and mouths that we do it. That is the faith that we preach. Because that is who we are in Christ. He is the first among many brethren, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
So Let us be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live. Partaking of His Holiness yielding the peaceable fruit of righteousness. For He has made a straight path for our feet to be healed.
SO exhort one another daily as we see the day approaching. For if we are sinning willfully, presumptuously, (Num. 15:30) after receiving the knowledge of this truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. Only Judgment and fiery indignation which shall devour the adversaries. He that set aside Moses Law died under two or three witnesses. How much sorer punishment do you think one is worthy that has done despite unto the Spirit of Grace. It will be a terrible thing to fall into the hands of God. For that which beareth thorns and briers will be rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. So we say again, let's exhort one another daily as we see the Day approaching. For How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein? As Scripture says, The just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that are of faith into the saving soul. So, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us lest we ourselves are casted away. Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider Him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. For Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. But God is faithful. He will suffer you to be tempted above that you are able to bear. But with the temptation give you a way to escape. For it is He that works in you both to will and do His good pleasure. Amen

The entire book of Hebrews is about Jesus being the very Fulfilment of the entire Pentateuch.

Paul is not, by fact of history, known to write Hebrews. The entire book reads about translating each portion of the Mosaic Covenant as a revelation of Jesus Christ so that former Jews could understand Jesus Christ.

The entire book states; The old covenant was thus and so, now Jesus has fulfilled it, let's discuss x portion of EVERYTHING found in the Pentateuch, especially everything pertaining to what Moses wrote about Moses and the Law.

As it begins, it keeps drawing dichotomies between Moses and Jesus, then intensifying the intense need for the Hebrews (Jews) to make a very distinct choice.

Moses <------------------------------------------------ or -------------------------------------------------> Jesus​

By Hebrews 10, where the thesis verse of this OP is located it is amplified to VERY hard, inflexible verbiage.

Hebrews 10:1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.​

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5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:​

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“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,​

but a body you prepared for me;​

6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings​

you were not pleased.​

7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—​

I have come to do your will, my God.’”​

Hebrews 10:1 speaks of a Shadow, which means that it is a theological "Type". Substance casts a "Shadow". The Anti-Type/Substance is clearly revealed to be Jesus Christ.

Incase this is not clearly understood, Hebrews 11:1 specifies that Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things unseen. This binds Faith to Jesus and Jesus alone.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, the evidence of things that appear not.​

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Hebrews Chapter 1 reveals that Jesus is what had been hoped for. John 5:39 does, also.

Hebrews 4 contrasts the dead bodies of Israelites in the desert that couldn't follow the Law and Rebelled. It then draws the dichotomy of Rebellion with not observing a very specific Sabbath Rest that is Today (Which reads intentionally as Every Day, because it's always "Today").

Jesus is our Sabbath rest from our works of the Flesh, which stink, like a corpse.

If a person desires to follow Moses, they have no sacrifice remaining for any of the transgressions listed from Deuteronomy 4 - Deuteronomy 31:26. The sacrificial system is over.

If a person desires to accept Christ's fulfillment of ALL Law contained in Moses (All 5 books of Moses), they are Saved.

Hebrews concludes by exalting the Royal Law (Love thy neighbor as thyself)(PERIOD).

Hebrews 13:1 Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. 2 Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. 3 Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.​

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4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. 5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,​

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“Never will I leave you;​

never will I forsake you.”​

6 So we say with confidence,​

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“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.​

What can mere mortals do to me?”​

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To the Carnally minded person, Hebrews 13:4 reads about carnal Law found in Moses. To the Spiritual mind, it is about fidelity to trusting in Jesus and forsaking Moses, in the name of faithfulness to the Gospel.

The very book of Hebrews forces Jews to choose between Jesus or Moses.

I don't like these discussions, but, this very verse that is being discussed is at the heart of many Christians giving up their faith. I cannot be silent on this matter.

I am a sinner, only saved by Jesus, condemned by the 10 and all 600 + others. I confess this, that I have, hold sin, to honor 1 John 1:8. I am only a "SAINT", because I am DEAD and it is only the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, who dwells within me that is declared alive. I desire the TRUTH (JESUS) to dwell within my Soul as He does, so I am forced, bound to Honesty, which may be unpopular, but I don't desire praise. I desire Jesus. I am a sinner. It is only by the Righteousness of Jesus that is in place of my DAILY DEAD WORKS of the FLESH, that I am SAVED.

 

[Grip Docility]

Remember We Have been sanctified by the blood of Jesus once and for all. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctify to the purifying of the flesh in the old Temple service. How more shall the blood of Christ. Who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot. Purge (sanctify fully) your conscience (who we are. the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the Living God. For it was impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. Because if the worshippers were purged they would have been perfected, the conscience, who we are would have been purged and there would not have been a remembrance of sin every year. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. But you know He was manifested to take away our sin and in Him is no sin. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. For by one offering He have perfected forever us whom are sanctified. Whereof this perfection the Holy Ghost has witnessed to us before when He saith, I will put my commandments in your hearts and in your minds will I write them. And your sins and iniquities will no longer be brought to my remembrance. Now where remission of these is there is no offering for sin.
Little children let no man deceive you. He that does righteousness is righteous EVEN AS He is righteous. He that sins is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested. To destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he can not sin. For he is born of God, begotten by the word of truth. A new creature with the engrafted word.. God's Law in their hearts and minds. His word in our hearts and mouths that we do it. That is the faith that we preach. Because that is who we are in Christ. He is the first among many brethren, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
So Let us be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live. Partaking of His Holiness yielding the peaceable fruit of righteousness. For He has made a straight path for our feet to be healed.
SO exhort one another daily as we see the day approaching. For if we are sinning willfully, presumptuously, (Num. 15:30) after receiving the knowledge of this truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. Only Judgment and fiery indignation which shall devour the adversaries. He that set aside Moses Law died under two or three witnesses. How much sorer punishment do you think one is worthy that has done despite unto the Spirit of Grace. It will be a terrible thing to fall into the hands of God. For that which beareth thorns and briers will be rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. So we say again, let's exhort one another daily as we see the Day approaching. For How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein? As Scripture says, The just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that are of faith into the saving soul. So, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us lest we ourselves are casted away. Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider Him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. For Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. But God is faithful. He will suffer you to be tempted above that you are able to bear. But with the temptation give you a way to escape. For it is He that works in you both to will and do His good pleasure. Amen

You now have my Scriptural response, now I will employ a secondary emotional appeal.

Have you met a Christian that "sins on accident"?
Have you met a Christian that is "without sin"?
Have you met a passage in scripture that says "Promising God to do better next time will Save you"?

If Christians, who do, all of them, willfully sin in different ways employ dishonesty towards others to cover this fact up or use strange confusing verbiage to express this concept, what is the validity of mishandling Hebrews 10 as what it is intended to be and what is the damage that mishandling Hebrews 10 does to the Body and Unbelievers?

If Christians employ the "Sin of Commission (Sin that we do) versus the Sin of Omission (Sin that we want to do but don't do)" argument, doesn't Jesus Decimate that argument when He binds Lusting in one's heart as transgression equal to committing adultery and Hate in one's heart as physical Murder?

If we who sin are the reason that Jesus died for humanity, while we were yet sinners, so He Who knew no sin could become all sin for us, so that us who sin could be declared sinless by His righteousness and not ours, how is it "Christian" to place the weight of the Law back on a "Christians" shoulders, again?

The new Christian is likened unto a baby. Jesus says that it is better that we have a millstone tied around a persons neck (Reference to the Stone Law) and they be cast to the bottom of the sea, than to offend one of those little ones.

Satan tries to get Jesus (The Living Bread) to turn Stone (The Stone Law) into Bread (Provision unto mankind).

Jesus asks; Which of you, being a loving parent would give your child a SNAKE if they ask for BREAD.

Hebrews 2:14 and 1 Corinthians 15:55,56 can keep going unnoticed, but Jesus didn't leave them unnoticed.

I will conclude my emotional appeal with one closing statement;

God, the Creator, Infinite God died and bled for humanity. I believe this. I believe that He rose on the Third Day. This means, by scripture that I am SAVED. Now, this work of GOD, that saves me, can I, a creation improve on this work? Can I become more saved by my mortal efforts than God has saved me? This said, should I spend each day trying to ensure that I am MORE SAVED, or should I now concern myself with the UNSAVED? What was Jesus concerned about?

 

[Clare73]

Remember We Have been sanctified by the blood of Jesus once and for all. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctify to the purifying of the flesh in the old Temple service. How more shall the blood of Christ. Who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot. Purge (sanctify fully) your conscience (who we are. the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the Living God. For it was impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. Because if the worshippers were purged they would have been perfected, the conscience, who we are would have been purged and there would not have been a remembrance of sin every year. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away our sin. But you know He was manifested to take away our sin and in Him is no sin. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. For by one offering He have perfected forever us whom are sanctified. Whereof this perfection the Holy Ghost has witnessed to us before when He saith, I will put my commandments in your hearts and in your minds will I write them. And your sins and iniquities will no longer be brought to my remembrance. Now where remission of these is there is no offering for sin.
Little children let no man deceive you. He that does righteousness is righteous EVEN AS He is righteous. He that sins is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested. To destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he can not sin. For he is born of God, begotten by the word of truth. A new creature with the engrafted word.. God's Law in their hearts and minds. His word in our hearts and mouths that we do it. That is the faith that we preach. Because that is who we are in Christ. He is the first among many brethren, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
So Let us be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live. Partaking of His Holiness yielding the peaceable fruit of righteousness. For He has made a straight path for our feet to be healed.
SO exhort one another daily as we see the day approaching. For if we are sinning willfully, presumptuously, (Num. 15:30) after receiving the knowledge of this truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. Only Judgment and fiery indignation which shall devour the adversaries. He that set aside Moses Law died under two or three witnesses. How much sorer punishment do you think one is worthy that has done despite unto the Spirit of Grace. It will be a terrible thing to fall into the hands of God. For that which beareth thorns and briers will be rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. So we say again, let's exhort one another daily as we see the Day approaching. For How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein? As Scripture says, The just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that are of faith into the saving soul. So, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us lest we ourselves are casted away. Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider Him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. For Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. But God is faithful. He will suffer you to be tempted above that you are able to bear. But with the temptation give you a way to escape. For it is He that works in you both to will and do His good pleasure. Amen

Hebrews is about encouraging to, and warning against apostasy from Christianity, which apostasy will result in condemnation as long as one remains in that apostasy.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

We need only read the next verses:

Hebrews 10:26-29 KJV
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

This sin was the sin of turning their backs on Jesus and the blood shed for them. They trod it underfoot and counted His blood as an unholy, or common thing.

In this case, the sin is " the sin which doth so easily beset" them. Which was unbelief.

Hebrews 12:1 KJV
1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Hebrews 3:11-19 KJV
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:2 KJV
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

Hebrews 4:6 KJV
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

Hebrews 10:35-39 KJV
35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

 

[Clare73]

We need only read the next verses:
Hebrews 10:26-29 KJV
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
This sin was the sin of turning their backs on Jesus and the blood shed for them. They trod it underfoot and counted His blood as an unholy, or common thing.

In this case, the sin is " the sin which doth so easily beset" them. Which was unbelief.

The sin is apostasy, turning from belief to unbelief, which is more grievous.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

The sin was apostasy, turning from belief to unbelief.

Yes. But so often some with take Heb 10:26 and apply it to any and every sin.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

This is specifically referring to unbelief. They "let them slip" into unbelief.

Hebrews 2:1 KJV
1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

The literal is, I think, more accurate:
(LITV) For this reason it is needful for us more abundantly to take heed to the things having been heard that we should not slip away.


We are the ones who slip away (or drift away). not the things that we heard.


Paul presents his gospel in 1 Corin 15 and uses the phrase "if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you:"

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

The simplest explanation regarding Heb 10:26 is that the Hebrews did not "keep in memory," "the gospel which was preached to them," "they left it slip away," and "they drifted away" into unbelief.

 

[Clare73]

Yes. But so often some with take Heb 10:26 and apply it to any and every sin.
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
This is specifically referring to unbelief. They "let them slip" into unbelief.

Hebrews 2:1 KJV
1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
The literal is, I think, more accurate:
(LITV) For this reason it is needful for us more abundantly to take heed to the things having been heard that we should not slip away.
We are the ones who slip away (or drift away), not the things that we heard.

Yes, we are the ones who slip away (or drift away), not the things that we heard.

Paul presents his gospel in 1 Corin 15 and uses the phrase "if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you:"

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
The simplest explanation regarding Heb 10:26 is that the Hebrews did not "keep in memory," "the gospel which was preached to them," "they left it slip away," and "they drifted away" into unbelief.

Or these new Hebrew Christians were considering a return to Judaism and unbelief in Christ because of persecution.

 

[HIM]

I don't like these discussions, but, this very verse that is being discussed is at the heart of many Christians giving up their faith. I cannot be silent on this matter.

No wonder. You have a lot of misunderstandings. And the most important one is an issue within Heb 10:26 and the use of a bad translation. It isn't if we sin willfully but if we are sinning willfully. As a continual lifestyle.

The second issue but not last is your misunderstanding of the Law being discussed in Hebrews. It is being specific from the start in chapter 7. Here below are the 13 times the Word law is used. They are very telling in respect to context. Please follow as it is unfolded below.

It starts in respect to the priesthood changing. Note it says that the Law must be changed because the priesthood is now all on Christ in verses 7:5-12. Please notice it does not say the Law is done away. It says it changed. And it changed because the priesthood changed.

One of the duties of the priesthood that switched to Christ was that we the people received the Law under Levitical Priesthood. This changed or least was supposed to, as revealed in the New Covenant. For God has said I will put my Laws in their hearts and in their minds will I write them. This as we know is done through the Holy Spirit through Christ.

Every aspect of the Law changed in respect to the Priesthood duties. This what is brought out in chapters 7 through 10. Every mention of the Law is in relation to their duties except 8:10 and 10:14. Take note those verse are different please. These text as you know are the repeating of the New Covenant as seen in Jer. 33:31. Take note that it is also different from either reading in Hebrews. So we have three citing of the New Covenant. And each one is worded differently.

The only Law being mentioned are those pertaining to sacrificing for our sins and of the Temple services.

Verse 7:19 says the Law made nothing perfect. This being stated in respect to the priesthood. We know this because it is said in context to verse 18 which is about the priesthood changing. The disannulling of the commandment is a disannulling of the commandment that stated who could be a priest.

Verse 10:1 is being specific and should need an explanation because it mentions sacrifices outright and how that they could not make anyone perfect as pertaining to their conscience. If they did then there would not be an continual reminder of sin every year the text continues. Then closing in respect to this it says why. It says that the reason why is it was not possible that the blood of bulls and goats can take away sin. This context is started in chapter 9 verses 13 and 14 where it states, If the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh. How much more shall the blood of Christ purge our conscience (who we are, the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the living God. For we know that He was manifested to take away our sin, destroy the works of the devil.

That is enough for now. Please answer these points and the ones brought out in the op. Thanks


Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Heb 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
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[Grip Docility]

No wonder. You have a lot of misunderstandings. And the most important one is an issue within Heb 10:26 and the use of a bad translation. It isn't if we sin willfully but if we are sinning willfully. As a continual lifestyle.

The second issue but not last is your misunderstanding of the Law being discussed in Hebrews. It is being specific from the start in chapter 7. Here below are the 13 times the Word law is used. They are very telling in respect to context. Please follow as it is unfolded below.

It starts in respect to the priesthood changing. Note it says that the Law must be changed because the priesthood is now all on Christ in verses 7:5-12. Please notice it does not say the Law is done away. It says it changed. And it changed because the priesthood changed.

One of the duties of the priesthood that switched to Christ was that we the people received the Law under Levitical Priesthood. This changed or least was supposed to, as revealed in the New Covenant. For God has said I will put my Laws in their hearts and in their minds will I write them. This as we know is done through the Holy Spirit through Christ.

Every aspect of the Law changed in respect to the Priesthood duties. This what is brought out in chapters 7 through 10. Every mention of the Law is in relation to their duties except 8:10 and 10:14. Take note those verse are different please. These text as you know are the repeating of the New Covenant as seen in Jer. 33:31. Take note that it is also different from either reading in Hebrews. So we have three citing of the New Covenant. And each one is worded differently.

The only Law being mentioned are those pertaining to sacrificing for our sins and of the Temple services.

Verse 7:19 says the Law made nothing perfect. This being stated in respect to the priesthood. We know this because it is said in context to verse 18 which is about the priesthood changing. The disannulling of the commandment is a disannulling of the commandment that stated who could be a priest.

Verse 10:1 is being specific and should need an explanation because it mentions sacrifices outright and how that they could not make anyone perfect as pertaining to their conscience. If they did then there would not be an continual reminder of sin every year the text continues. Then closing in respect to this it says why. It says that the reason why is it was not possible that the blood of bulls and goats can take away sin. This context is started in chapter 9 verses 13 and 14 where it states, If the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh. How much more shall the blood of Christ purge our conscience (who we are, the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the living God. For we know that He was manifested to take away our sin, destroy the works of the devil.

That is enough for now. Please answer these points and the ones brought out in the op. Thanks


Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Heb 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
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I have one question for you.

Did God bleed for humanity?

 

[HIM]

Hebrews is about encouraging to, and warning against apostasy from Christianity, which apostasy will result in condemnation as long as one remains in that apostasy.

Yes and Sinning willfully is apostasy

 

[Grip Docility]

Yes and Sinning willfully is apostacy

This is use of the Stone Law of Moses against the Brethren.

 

[HIM]

I have one question for you.

Did God bleed for humanity?

God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself.

Answer the points in the last post and OP please. Thanks. The time that has elapse I am scarce to believe that you have read and comprehended what was put forth.

 

[Clare73]

Yes and Sinning willfully is apostacy

All apostasy is sinning willfully, but not all sinning willfully is apostasy.

 

[Grip Docility]

God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself.

Answer the points in the last post and OP please. Thanks. The time that has elapse I am scarce to believe that you have read and comprehended what was put forth.

Hebrews 10 mentions TRAMPLING THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.

How powerful would you say that blood is?

 

[HIM]

All apostasy is sinning willfully, but not all sinning willfully is apostasy.

Conjecture

 

[Clare73]

Conjecture

Not according to the logic of principle and its applications.

 

[HIM]

Hebrews 10 mentions TRAMPLING THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.

How powerful would you say that blood is?

Please respond to the points in the OP and this post here below thanks

You have a lot of misunderstandings. And the most important one is an issue within Heb 10:26 and the use of a bad translation. It isn't if we sin willfully but if we are sinning willfully. As a continual lifestyle.

The second issue but not last is your misunderstanding of the Law being discussed in Hebrews. It is being specific from the start in chapter 7. Here below are the 13 times the Word law is used. They are very telling in respect to context. Please follow as it is unfolded below.

It starts in respect to the priesthood changing. Note it says that the Law must be changed because the priesthood is now all on Christ in verses 7:5-12. Please notice it does not say the Law is done away. It says it changed. And it changed because the priesthood changed.

One of the duties of the priesthood that switched to Christ was that we the people received the Law under Levitical Priesthood. This changed or least was supposed to, as revealed in the New Covenant. For God has said I will put my Laws in their hearts and in their minds will I write them. This as we know is done through the Holy Spirit through Christ.

Every aspect of the Law changed in respect to the Priesthood duties. This what is brought out in chapters 7 through 10. Every mention of the Law is in relation to their duties except 8:10 and 10:14. Take note those verse are different please. These text as you know are the repeating of the New Covenant as seen in Jer. 33:31. Take note that it is also different from either reading in Hebrews. So we have three citing of the New Covenant. And each one is worded differently.

The only Law being mentioned are those pertaining to sacrificing for our sins and of the Temple services.

Verse 7:19 says the Law made nothing perfect. This being stated in respect to the priesthood. We know this because it is said in context to verse 18 which is about the priesthood changing. The disannulling of the commandment is a disannulling of the commandment that stated who could be a priest.

Verse 10:1 is being specific and should need an explanation because it mentions sacrifices outright and how that they could not make anyone perfect as pertaining to their conscience. If they did then there would not be an continual reminder of sin every year the text continues. Then closing in respect to this it says why. It says that the reason why is it was not possible that the blood of bulls and goats can take away sin. This context is started in chapter 9 verses 13 and 14 where it states, If the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh. How much more shall the blood of Christ purge our conscience (who we are, the man of sin) from dead works (sin, acts that cause death) to serve the living God. For we know that He was manifested to take away our sin, destroy the works of the devil.

That is enough for now. Please answer these points and the ones brought out in the op. Thanks


Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Heb 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

 

[HIM]

Not according to the logic of principle and its applications.

More conjecture

 

[St_Worm2]

This sin was the sin of turning their backs on Jesus and the blood shed for them. They trod it underfoot and counted His blood as an unholy, or common thing.

Hello SavedByGrace3, I agree with this, and that these folks chose to reject the Savior with full knowledge of what they were doing (i.e. their sin was "willful"). This sin, of knowingly turning away from the only One who could save them from their sins, meant that (as the text goes on to tell us) "there no longer remained a sacrifice for their sins, only a terrifying expectation of judgment".

Perhaps these people were like some of those described by the parable of the soils in Matthew 13? (perhaps those planted in the "rocky" soil?)

God bless you!!

--David