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Do you believe that God is unwilling to give some sins of Christians? If all their sins are not forgiven because of Christ's work on the cross on their behalf, they must somehow pay the penalty for their sins themselves - in other words, they are not truly saved.
My timeline? Well, Christ was crucified 2000 years ago. This was written shortly afterward.
To be Christian is to be one who has turned from sin and turned to God. Anything else may or may not be a Christian in name, may or may not be a person professing Christ as his Lord, but the new covenant is not a reprieve from the obligation for man to be righteous but is, in fact, the means to his obtaining that very thing. We love because He's loved us. And love we must, as John tells us in his first letter while also affirming the corresponding fact that sin must be overcome in a believer in order for them to even qualify as a true believer, as a child of God.
I agree wholeheartedly. The problem with synergism is that God is either incapable of forgiving some sins or He is simply unwilling to forgive them, expecting the sinner to somehow atone for these sins. We have established earlier in the thread that fhansen believes that God is capable of forgiving all sins. Now, I hope to find out from him why He believes that God is unwilling to forgive some sins of Christians.
Faith involves man doing his part, responding to grace. And that's why some are not forgiven to begin with, or don't benefit from that forgiveness in any case; that's why some remain reprobate IOW. Is God incapable of forgiving them?
I try to keep my posts brief and to the point in the hope that they will be quoted in their entirety and not cut up into little snippets which can be used out of their context. In the future, please quote me in my entirety even though you might find much of my post irrelevant to you. If you wish you can bolden the portion of my post or give it color.
We have already determined that God is capable of forgiving all sins. We are now discussing the reason(s) God is unwilling to forgive certain sins of a Christian, even to the point of condemning they to eternity in the lake of fire.
No, I’m the one that recognizes that all debts of God’s were canceled at the cross. You have some sort of “not cancelled until I do something” theology that can’t be reflected from any passage in scripture.
There's only one faith, and its been consistent since the beginning in the east and west and with the ECFs. And I outlined part of it above pretty well, supported by Scripture as well. As it is you've bought into a novel, partially askew, gospel.
"But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." Matt 6:15
They are different requirements of God, and, if authentic, they're both preceded by grace. Those works are such as those referred to in Ephesians 2:10 or Matthew 25 in reference to sheep and goats. Or Romans 2:7 for that matter. We have to get off of this obsession that faith can somehow be disassociated from the obligation for man to become truly, personally, righteous. That is not scriptural and it's not the gospel. I can elaborate more on it later
Thank you. In essence they are both works to be accomplished by man in order to merit salvation as I understand you. This certainly aligns with the synergism of your church. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
