Are you standing with The Chosen One?

[Always in His Presence]

Exactly. The point is we don’t know if they’re democrats or republicans or dead or transgender or whatever so why did you label them as “the democrats”?


That makes it sound like “the Democrats” as in, the Democratic Party had children singing praises to Obama almost as a matter of policy, but all we have is this clip of some random people who might not even be democrats at all.

Seems unnecessarily partisan and not to mention a distraction from the actual topic of the thread to me.

Ok thanks for your opinion - have a great day!

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Ok thanks for your opinion - have a great day!

Thanks, I am. You as well!

 

[Pommer]

New worship song dropped.
Plot twist, it's not about Jesus.
And it's not satire, it's sincere.

In American Politics for obvious reasons (I hope). Perhaps it should be in the Christians-only section instead, I'm not sure.

-CryptoLutheran

And here I thought Leni Riefenstahl had died in 2003?

 

[perplexed]

Nope - I am not defending it - just pointing out it is not the first time a President was elevated to savior status by his political party. Since I am a supporter of free speech - yes, it is ok to write a song about anyone or anything.

There is but one Lord and Savior - Jesus Christ

Your video would a be a good response to a Trump Freedom kids video because they do NOT say Trump has been been chosen by God

 

[perplexed]

Apparently this person is like Judas

 

[ViaCrucis]

Nope - I am not defending it - just pointing out it is not the first time a President was elevated to savior status by his political party. Since I am a supporter of free speech - yes, it is ok to write a song about anyone or anything.

There is but one Lord and Savior - Jesus Christ

I haven't said anything about political parties. The video in my OP actually seems to be quite anti-Republican, comparing them to Judas Iscariot. And the video you posted has nothing to do with Democrats. So this argument of yours is either just dishonest, or you sincerely don't get it.

Play a little mental exercise: replace Trump with either Obama or Biden in the video I posted; and replace Obama with Trump in the video you posted. Would you honestly believe it would be a valid comparison? I don't think you would. I don't think you think you would either.

All I'm asking for here is that you try to put down the R vs D card, and look at this a little bit more objectively.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[2PhiloVoid]

New worship song dropped.
Plot twist, it's not about Jesus.
And it's not satire, it's sincere.

In American Politics for obvious reasons (I hope). Perhaps it should be in the Christians-only section instead, I'm not sure.

-CryptoLutheran

... It's not that I'm speechless, but rather overwhelmed by expressions too numerous to bear.

 

[ViaCrucis]

... It's not that I'm speechless, but rather overwhelmed by expressions too numerous to bear.

I found myself uncertain if I have the vocabulary. A lot of words came to mind, but all felt too small and too tame.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Laodicean60]

Play a little mental exercise: replace Trump with either Obama or Biden in the video I posted; and replace Obama with Trump in the video you posted.

As a Christian, I believe all elected officials are the Chosen Ones at least according to scripture. I don't think many churches will be playing this song in their churches but I've also heard other songs played in church like "Proud to be an American" not related to Jesus.

Seems odd you’d refer to them as democrats. How do you know how they each vote? Maybe they’ve all “walked away” and are Trump voters now. What do you know?

If I was a betting man I would bet at that time they were mostly Democrats because how many Republicans would sing a song for the enemy President.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

If I was a betting man I would bet at that time they were mostly Democrats because how many Republicans would sing a song for the enemy President.

Enemy president? What a strange but also very revealing statement.

 

[Laodicean60]

Enemy president? What a strange but also very revealing statement.

I am happy you received revelation.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I mean, it's just a photo. But it gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Former President Donald Trump speaks during a roundtable at 180 Church in Detroit on June 15, 2024.
Brian Snyder/Reuters

 

[Pommer]

As a Christian, I believe all elected officials are the Chosen Ones at least according to scripture. I don't think many churches will be playing this song in their churches but I've also heard other songs played in church like "Proud to be an American" not related to Jesus.

I’m sorry I’ve never understood this facet of your belief…If God “selects” all of the winners of the elections that are held, why even bother to vote at all? Is it like God needs our “help” to get His chosen into office?

 

[perplexed]

I mean, it's just a photo. But it gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Former President Donald Trump speaks during a roundtable at 180 Church in Detroit on June 15, 2024.
Brian Snyder/Reuters

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[Laodicean60]

I’m sorry I’ve never understood this facet of your belief…If God “selects” all of the winners of the elections that are held, why even bother to vote at all? Is it like God needs our “help” to get His chosen into office?

I don't understand it either and didn't realize this until 8 months ago after my heart attack but this play's script is written. As for voting I do my civic duties and vote for who I think would better the country. I guess the end justifies the means.
IF Gore was elected do you think we would have the problems today in the Middle East by overthrowing Iraq, I think not because most Democrats were anti-war back then and Iran was too busy with Iraq in their religious fight (I was actually for taking Saddam out because of the information I had at the time not knowing what it would do in the future). Obama comes and continues the American hegemony and NATO expansion around Russian borders. Trump comes and polarizes the world time 10 and antagonizes China with tariffs. Now Biden's administration's actions.....

Israel/ USA actions today will cause more and more countries to hate us and we can see that in the formation of the BRICS nations and many countries in the Middle East. Israel will never stop being attacked and will desire peace by signing a seven-year agreement with a powerful world leader someday in the future. This peace treaty will be broken after 3.5 years and all hell breaks loose. All this is done so that the stiff-necked Jews will finally recognize they crucified the Messiah.

This is my worldview and won't respond further and this isn't criticism of any political party. Man does what's right in his own mind.

 

[Pommer]

This is my worldview and won't respond further and this isn't criticism of any political party. Man does what's right in his own mind.

Okay. Yes, each person has the “free will” to do as each thinks best, that’s how this all works.

 

[ViaCrucis]

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(Context: Eberhard Bethge was a student, close friend and confidant of Pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer; after Bonhoeffer's death in a Nazi prison camp, it was due to the tireless work of Bethge that the world came to learn Bonhoeffer's writings, including his seminal work Cost of Discipleship; Bonhoeffer's life, work, and legacy is due to Bethge refusing to let Bonhoeffer's name and memory die in a Nazi prison camp).

I first read the following passage back in 2006, and it has been stuck in my mind ever since. And I am constantly, consistently reminded of it and the warning it contains.

"While the Bethges loved being in New York, they also appreciated the generosity and hospitality of many other smaller centres around the country. One such place was Lynchburg College in Virginia, where they were both honoured with doctorates. Staying in Lynchburg, the headquarters of Moral Majority leader Jerry Falwell, also provided an opportunity for them to experience the heartbeat of American fundamentalism. The Bethges were particularly bothered by what they experienced when they visited Falwell's church because so much that was referred to as "American Christianity'" reminded them of aspects of the German Christianity of the 1930s. Eberhard later wrote,

'As we entered the foyer, an usher stepped forward and gave me two badges to fasten to my lapel: the one on the left said, Jesus First and on the right, one with an American flag ... I could not help but think myself in Germany in 1933 . . . Of course, Christ, but a German Christ; of course, "Jesus First", but an American Jesus! And so to the long history of faith and its executors another chapter is being added of a mixed image of Christ, of another syncretism on the American model, undisturbed by any knowledge of that centuries-long and sad history. ' Bethge added some remarks that have an uncanny contemporary ring to them: 'The disturbing fact is this new element, the battle for a "Christian nation" against humanism. The flag has always been in the churches, but now it has come to represent the new threat of binding the political structure to an ideology, which models a whole new educational system, and a new kind of representation in Washington, and a newly interpreted Constitution.'

For Bethge, who had a great love for the United States and the democratic vision of its Founding Fathers, and who enjoyed visiting there, these signs were disturbing. He could only hope that they would not develop along the lines he feared they might." - John W. De Gruchy. Daring, Trusting Spirit: Bonhoeffer's Friend Eberhard Bethge

-CryptoLutheran