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Trump To Vegas Voters: “I Don't Care About You”

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I watched a melodrama video about all those poor people suffering 105° heat. That's nothing for Vegas. Besides the umpteen zillion tourists outside on days like that, residents hang out in parks, walk their dogs, attend baseball games, soccer games, go hiking etc during the summer when the average is 105° - I did plenty of all of that for 22 years there. When people pass out it's usually because they're dehydrated.
Yeah people do a lot of stupid, unsafe things in Las Vegas. Not sure that’s a very good selling point.
 
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Yeah people do a lot of stupid, unsafe things in Las Vegas. Not sure that’s a very good selling point.
They all walk around in the summer there and do just fine. In 22 years I never saw people passed out on the sidewalk.
 
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They all walk around in the summer there and do just fine. In 22 years I never saw people passed out on the sidewalk.
Well six people at this rally had to be hospitalized among several others who had to be treated because of the heat so I’ll go with what’s being reported instead of your anecdotes, if you don’t mind. People can do whatever they want but medical experts strongly advise you shouldn’t be outside in the sun in such extreme heat unless you absolutely need to.
 
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Not sure the "he scheduled an event when it's hot out" necessarily proves anything.

There are people who go sit in that kind of heat for sporting events. It's not exactly like it's a compulsory event.

Did people assume it wasn't going to be hot in Vegas in the summer time?

This kind of stuff happens in the hot weather, people assume those risks themselves.


Of all the things to criticize him for "He made a joke, and a few people got overheated because there was an outdoor event scheduled and it was a hot day" doesn't rank to high on the list and comes across as grasping at straws.

On the "valid complaint" scale, this one is only a notch or two above "18 people needed to use Flonase because Trump was so inconsiderate that he scheduled an event near a field of wildflowers during allergy season"

In the end, the attendees are responsible for their choices, to include attending an outdoor event without taking the proper precautions.
However, the Trump campaign can and should schedule events either indoors or at he very least, after sun down. It's the responsible thing to do.....
 
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Well six people at this rally had to be hospitalized among several others who had to be treated because of the heat so I’ll go with what’s being reported instead of your anecdotes, if you don’t mind. People can do whatever they want but medical experts strongly advise you shouldn’t be outside in the sun in such extreme heat unless you absolutely need to.
Okay, okay, orange man bad. Very very bad and evil making those poor people swelter and drop like flies while he rubbed his little hands together and twirled an invisible mustache.
 
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They all walk around in the summer there and do just fine. In 22 years I never saw people passed out on the sidewalk.
....well sure (in your universe of 1) . It's good you didn't have to witness someone suffering from heat stroke.
 
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....well sure (in your universe of 1) . It's good you didn't have to witness someone suffering from heat stroke.
Seems a bit odd this crisis strikes then and there, and not during all the other outdoor summer activities that take place during the summer.
 
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Another thing to consider is Mr Trump's history of not paying his bills. Perhaps the air-cooled, indoor venues in America now vet their clientele. And will not allow Trump rallies because he still hasn't paid for some previous rallies. His reputation does precede this man.
 
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Considering he held a rally in Las Vegas in +100° heat in the middle of the day where 6 people ended up needing to go to a hospital and about 2 dozen others needed medical attention onsite because of the heat. I’d say he doesn’t seem to care too much about the people who love him most.

Hmm.

"Trump's campaign took several precautions to combat the desert heat: thousands of bottles of water for attendees, tents and misting fans around the park and at least one tent with air conditioning. The campaign also said it would allow attendees to carry small umbrellas. There is also medical staff on park grounds."


"During the rally, Trump commented on the heat, saying, "I'm up here sweating like a dog."

"It's 110, but it doesn't feel it to me, right. So, we'll stay out here for a little while. If anybody gets tired, you'll let me know. And if anybody goes down, if you start going down, we have people they'll pick you up right away. They'll throw water.""



 
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Okay, okay, orange man bad. Very very bad and evil making those poor people swelter and drop like flies while he rubbed his little hands together and twirled an invisible mustache.
Obviously Trump isn’t the one organizing and scheduling his own rallies but whoever is in charge of that clearly doesn’t care or didn’t think of the health and safety of his supporters or even Trump’s health for that matter. I doubt I could ever get you to be critical of him for anything he does but can we at least agree his rally where several people were injured by the excessive heat could have been better to hold indoors or at least at a cooler time of day?
 
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Hmm.

"Trump's campaign took several precautions to combat the desert heat: thousands of bottles of water for attendees, tents and misting fans around the park and at least one tent with air conditioning. The campaign also said it would allow attendees to carry small umbrellas. There is also medical staff on park grounds."
And yet they couldn’t hold it indoors which would have made all of this much easier and far less risky particularly for more elderly attendees.

Incredible. This is another one of those “shoot somebody on 5th Ave” moments.
"During the rally, Trump commented on the heat, saying, "I'm up here sweating like a dog."

"It's 110, but it doesn't feel it to me, right. So, we'll stay out here for a little while. If anybody gets tired, you'll let me know. And if anybody goes down, if you start going down, we have people they'll pick you up right away. They'll throw water.""



Lol. Seems like even he was wondering who was the idiot who set this up in the midday sun, in Nevada.
 
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Considering he held a rally in Las Vegas in +100° heat in the middle of the day where 6 people ended up needing to go to a hospital and about 2 dozen others needed medical attention onsite because of the heat. I’d say he doesn’t seem to care too much about the people who love him most.
Oh come on. Those who live there have been dealing with the heat for years. They know what it's like. They do stuff in it all the time. I know, I was there. People still went everywhere in it.
 
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Oh come on. Those who live there have been dealing with the heat for years. They know what it's like. They do stuff in it all the time. I know, I was there. People still went everywhere in it.
And still 6 people ended up in the hospital and 24 others had to be treated for the excessive heat they suffered. He and his events can literally harm people and you’ll make a million excuses for it.

This is why people call it a cult.
 
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He cares about them as people who feed his ego. He loves that. He doesn't care much about their welfare, as we already saw with his rallies during the height of covid-19. He expects his beloved followers to sacrifice themselves for the good of Trump. (Or he'll dump them like trash.)

Then again, I've seen football games with conditions at least as bad, both hot and cold. I don't normally hold it against the ones holding an event if people are more than willing to brave the elements.
The way Trump handled COVID-19 shows how week he is. He's a good person, for helping the rich get richer. And the employees get poorer.
 
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And still 6 people ended up in the hospital and 24 others had to be treated for the excessive heat they suffered. He and his events can literally harm people and you’ll make a million excuses for it.

This is why people call it a cult.
Nonthey call it a gathering. You know how many people are treated for excessive heat in these areas every year?

Quit pretending this is such a bizarre and strange occurrence that just never happens anywhere it's hot.
 
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Nonthey call it a gathering. You know how many people are treated for excessive heat in these areas every year?

Quit pretending this is such a bizarre and strange occurrence that just never happens anywhere it's hot.
Who said it was bizarre or strange? You got it backwards. I would have expected this outcome and I’m not a doctor. Heat exhaustion is to be expected in these conditions. That’s why I say it’s irresponsible or at least careless to hold such an event when there were certainly other options available.

You’re the ones here insisting it’s not irresponsible to gather a crowd of people out in the midday sun in 105° heat when any medical professional would tell you it most certainly is. Don’t take it from me though. Here’s the Nevada health department warning people about the desert heat:

With excessive heat expected in the region this week, Clark County and the Southern Nevada Health District and community partners are reminding the public that heat can pose serious health risks to anyone in our region especially children, the elderly and people with poor circulation and weight problems.
The local office of the National Weather Service has issued an excessive heat warning for Wednesday through Friday this week. Temperatures in the Las Vegas Valley are expected to hit 108 degrees on Wednesday and 111 on Thursday, and 110 on Friday. Clark County and community partners will open cooling stations for the public during daytime hours on those days. A list of confirmed sites, including community centers and libraries, will soon be available and posted online at www.HelpHopeHome.org. The cooling centers are open to people experiencing homelessness and others in the community in need of cool, indoor spaces for respite from the heat.
“With excessive heat, it’s important to drink more water than usual and to seek shaded or cool areas during the heat of the day to avoid dehydration,” said Clark County Fire Chief John Steinbeck. “Never leave children or pets alone in hot cars and remember that swimming pools are very enticing to young children. Adults always need to keep their eyes on kids anytime they are near water.”
Clark County, the Southern Nevada Health District and community partners kicked off the “Beat the Heat SNV” this spring to raise awareness about heat safety. Information can be found in English and Spanish at www.snhd.info/BeatTheHeatSNV. Most heat-related medical issues occur because people get overexposed to heat or over exercise for their age and physical condition.
“Extreme heat results in the deaths of more than 1,000 people in the United States each year,” said District Health Officer Dr. Fermin Leguen said. “The Southern Nevada Health District urges people to protect themselves and others during periods of extreme heat by staying cool, staying hydrated and staying informed.”
Symptoms of heat exhaustion include heavy sweating, paleness, muscle cramps and dizziness. These safety tips are recommended to cope with the region’s heat:
  • Drink water even if you don’t feel thirsty.
  • Limit intake of alcoholic beverages, which contribute to dehydration.
  • Always carry plenty of water with you and a mobile phone. You never know what might happen during the day that could keep you outdoors longer than anticipated.
  • Remember to “look before you lock.” Children should never be left alone in a vehicle for any amount of a time, even for a quick errand or quick trip into the home. Temperatures in a car can rise to 120 degrees when outdoor temperatures are in the 90s.
  • Pets are required to have access to lots of shade and water when outdoors. County code prohibits people from leaving animals alone in cars during extreme heat. Reports can be made to the agency’s dispatch center at (702) 455-7710.
  • Dress for hot weather. Clothing that is loose, lightweight and light-colored reflects heat and sunlight.
  • Use sunscreen with a high SPF to protect against sunburn and skin cancer.
  • Look in on friends and family, especially the elderly who may need help adjusting to the heat.
  • Limit errands and outdoor activities to before noon or in the evening to avoid being out during the hottest part of the day.
  • Always assign a designated water watcher when children are near a pool or any body of water; install barriers between your home and pool; and enroll children in swimming lessons. Additional drowning prevention information is on the Southern Nevada Health District’s website at https://tinyurl.com/2p85xryk.

 
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Obviously Trump isn’t the one organizing and scheduling his own rallies but whoever is in charge of that clearly doesn’t care or didn’t think of the health and safety of his supporters or even Trump’s health for that matter. I doubt I could ever get you to be critical of him for anything he does but can we at least agree his rally where several people were injured by the excessive heat could have been better to hold indoors or at least at a cooler time of day?
It's the melodramatic wording I have a problem with. 105 is the average in Vegas, not excessive. And nobody was "injured". And why aren't there the same melodramatic outcries over all the other outdoor events held in Vegas during the summer, if human welfare is actually the concern?
 
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It's the melodramatic wording I have a problem with. 105 is the average in Vegas, not excessive.
It’s excessive enough to hospitalize several people.
And nobody was "injured".
You think they went to the hospital just for funsies? They needed medical attention and more so than they could get at the event. Sounds pretty serious to me but maybe you know all their conditions better than I do. I’m just going by what’s been reported.
And why aren't there the same melodramatic outcries over all the other outdoor events held in Vegas during the summer, if human welfare is actually the concern?
No idea. I brought up something I felt was relevant to the thread where Trump expressed his uncaring attitude towards his own following at his Las Vegas rally.
 
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It’s excessive enough to hospitalize several people.

You think they went to the hospital just for funsies? They needed medical attention and more so than they could get at the event. Sounds pretty serious to me but maybe you know all their conditions better than I do. I’m just going by what’s been reported.

No idea. I brought up something I felt was relevant to the thread where Trump expressed his uncaring attitude towards his own following at his Las Vegas rally.
When someone doesn't feel well someone calls an ambulance and they get taken to the hospital. That happens at large outdoor and indoor events all the time. Someone not feeling well is not an injury. This is blatantly obvious orange man bad propaganda hype.
 
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