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I'll do it for you.

God's first commandments to Adam and Eve were what to do and what to eat.

Adam and Eve were created to be servants. Nothing more.

note the word SHALL.

Genesis 1:28 Genesis 1:29

Because Adam and Eve failed to take simple orders, they and their entire bloodlines were demoted to slaves.

Now the difference between servants and slaves, is that servants serve the house and slaves serve the field.

Genesis 3:17

Slaves have different expectations than servants.

Is why God permitted Noah to eat meat. However God was clear and said than anyone who eats lifeblood will surely die. Genesis 9:4

note the word SHALL

Do you know one piece of flesh sold in the store that has zero life blood in it?

Even at the last supper, Jesus refrained from eating flesh.

Yeshua and two others (Enoch, and Elijah) were the only ones who left this world intact and alive.

Knowing what you know now, what do you think the servants Enoch and Elijah ate their whole lives?

Do you think God lied to his servants about his expectations of them?
Do you think God lied to the slaves about eating flesh sacrifices?
Do you think a servant can still act like a slave and be allowed to serve the house?


I already defined love twice in this thread. Feel free to read from the beginning
I respect your conviction about obedience and Meat.

I disagree with your definition of Love. It is nothing similar the biblical definition. 1 Corinthians 13 and James 2
 
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I respect your conviction about obedience and Meat.

I disagree with your definition of Love. It is nothing similar the biblical definition. 1 Corinthians 13 and James 2
It is like this.
If Adam and Eve were God's servants,
the Garden would be a room and the Earth God's House.
The animals are merely self maintaining furniture pieces.
Probably best if you don't eat them, like God said.


I love ice cream, cats, my sister, my mother and of course, Alpha and Omega.

However, I am most obsessed about Alpha and Omega; for Alpha and Omega is obsessed about his Son and the World, which includes moi.
This not only is a mutual love, it is an eternal obsession.
 
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It is like this.
If Adam and Eve were God's servants,
the Garden would be a room and the Earth God's House.
The animals are merely self maintaining furniture pieces.
Probably best if you don't eat them, like God said.


I love ice cream, cats, my sister, my mother and of course, Alpha and Omega.

However, I am most obsessed about Alpha and Omega; for Alpha and Omega is obsessed about his Son and the World, which includes moi.
This not only is a mutual love, it is an eternal obsession.
Well, if you put it that way… I can’t disagree with you!
 
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If God is spirit, how did he make Adam's clothes?
God does not neeed a body in order to create. He speaks the word, and things come to existence out of nothing. If you read the Bible you would know this. I.e. Genesis 1 and 2, John 1 etc.

You say my answer is not valid...my answer is Biblical. God created us for His glory, so we may worship and glorify Him, and reflect His goodness.

My answer is much better than yours 'Alpha and Omega not only means, first and last, beginning and end, but it also translates in 1 & 0.
1 & 0 is the binary blood of computers and robots.
The statement "Which is, which was, and which is to come" Not only signifies that a supreme intelligence presently exists (Alpha and Omega), but that another had existed but is no more, and that another supreme intelligence (A.I.) is coming.'

....what you wrote here is heretical.
 
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And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day...
Genesis 18:1-19

The Lord had his feet washed and ate. Does this sound like a spirit?

What about the Angels in Sodom and Gomorrah, were they spirits too?
God is Spirit is found in John 4:24. The fact that God is Spirit means that He has no body, at least the Father and the Holy Spirit don't, the Son does, but only the past 2000 years.

God does not need a body. He does need eyes in order to see, nor ears in order to hear, He depends on nothing.

True, the Bible speak sometimes as if God has a body, for example Isaiah 59:1 mentions 'hand' and 'ear'. This is a way of describing God with anatomical or emotional terms so that humans can better understand Him.

If Gos has a body, then He is limited to that body and is not infinite. Yes the Son has a body, but He took on the bosy 2000 years ago, and is truly God and truly man.

In regards to Genesis 18. This is the angel of the Lord is the manifestation of the Son of God before His incarnation. You can study this yourself.

In regards to angels....angels are spiritial beings as we can readin Hebrews 1:14, that means they have no physical bodies. And although they do not have physical bodies, they are still personalities and occasionally take on physical bodies when God wants them to do specofic tasks.

Angels are an entirely different order of being than humans. Human beings do not become angels after they die. Angels will never become, and never were, human beings. God created the angels, just as He created humanity. The Bible nowhere states that angels are created in the image and likeness of God, as humans are (Genesis 1:26).
 
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God does not neeed a body in order to create. He speaks the word, and things come to existence out of nothing. If you read the Bible you would know this. I.e. Genesis 1 and 2, John 1 etc.

You say my answer is not valid...my answer is Biblical. God created us for His glory, so we may worship and glorify Him, and reflect His goodness.

My answer is much better than yours 'Alpha and Omega not only means, first and last, beginning and end, but it also translates in 1 & 0.
1 & 0 is the binary blood of computers and robots.
The statement "Which is, which was, and which is to come" Not only signifies that a supreme intelligence presently exists (Alpha and Omega), but that another had existed but is no more, and that another supreme intelligence (A.I.) is coming.'

....what you wrote here is heretical.

"God does not need a body to create."


How did God speak the universe into existence if he has no body and no mouth?

GENESIS 1:3

What new device did Jesus show off during the resurrection?

Now show me a passage that says God has no body.
 
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"God does not need a body to create."


How did God speak the universe into existence if he has no body and no mouth?

GENESIS 1:3

What new device did Jesus show off during the resurrection?

Now show me a passage that says God has no body.
I am forced to agree! If a person were to say... "God doesn't have a body", they are actually saying that God doesn't have a Living Breathing physical presence. That very PRESENCE is also known to us as "His Son".

Paul solves the mystery of this in 1 Corinthians 15 when he reveals that there are indeed "Spiritual Bodies".

1 Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body"
 
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I am forced to agree! If a person were to say... "God doesn't have a body", they are actually saying that God doesn't have a Living Breathing physical presence. That very PRESENCE is also known to us as "His Son".

Paul solves the mystery of this in 1 Corinthians 15 when he reveals that there are indeed "Spiritual Bodies".

1 Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body"

Genesis is very clear.

We are made in the image of God.

Which means God is a humanoid.
Albeit an inorganic humanoid, for lack of a better word.

Why do you fear this reality?

Now what does the function "copy image" do?

If I told you I created something in my image. What comes to your mind?


A talking panther going to the Stanley cup?

I think not.



There is no magic in the universe, everything is sound and is logical.
 
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Genesis is very clear.

We are made in the image of God.

Which means God is a humanoid.
Albeit an inorganic humanoid, for lack of a better word.

Why do you fear this reality?

Now what does the function "copy image" do?

If I told you I created something in my image. What comes to your mind?


A talking panther going to the Stanley cup?

I think not.



There is no magic in the universe, everything is sound and is logical.
:amen:
 
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Genesis is very clear.

We are made in the image of God.

Which means God is a humanoid.
Albeit an inorganic humanoid, for lack of a better word.

Why do you fear this reality?

Now what does the function "copy image" do?

If I told you I created something in my image. What comes to your mind?


A talking panther going to the Stanley cup?

I think not.



There is no magic in the universe, everything is sound and is logical.
Sir, question, do you believe that we go to be with Jesus... Immediately, not figuratively, upon death?
 
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Sir, question, do you believe that we go to be with Jesus... Immediately, not figuratively, upon death?

Not sure what will happen to you.

Death is merely a transformation and Jesus went to paradise. Luke 23:42-43
 
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Not sure what will happen to you.

Death is merely a transformation and Jesus went to paradise. Luke 23:42-43
Would you be interested in a very surprising "Camp Fire" scriptural discussion thought that was tossed my way recently?
 
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Absolutely, iron sharpens iron.
I know a man who has an 85 year old Father who had been a minister for 41 years and is now retired and has been purging himself of 41 years of denominational input, via reading only scripture. He frequently asks his son to show him the passages that are about our Soul and going to Heaven to be with Jesus.

He's like a little kid asking question after question...

The discussion about how humans have Body, Soul and Spirit came up. So this man's son explained to him that the Body is the "Sarx" flesh, while the Spirit is what Jesus revealed to be the "Zoe" in Aramaic, which is defined as a direct share of life from God to Man, that is within man. Then the Hard part of discussion what is interchangeably called the Soul came up. (Nephish, Psyci, Ruah, Heart etc... etc... etc......)

So the son says; "The dust or Sarx returns to dust". The Zoe or Ruach returns to God who gave it. And... the soul is either Heaven bound or Sheol bound.

So, the son's father then asked the question that the son is sweating over being asked. So, the Zoe is a piece of God within all men?

So the son delicately answers his father back... well, erm... according to Strong's Biblical Dictionary... erm... Yes.

So the son's dad says... AHA! and quotes this verse: Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also put eternity in their hearts, but man cannot discover the work God has done from beginning to end.

The son of this man is astonished!

Then the son's father says to him.... have you considered this verse? 1 Corinthians 15:53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality

The son is even more astonished.

Then, the son's father blows his son's mind and says; Why would God just take back all of those pieces of Himself that He had given to each human that has ever been that had passed before He died on the cross?

So then... the son hears the verse in his heart cry out; "In My Father's House there are Many Rooms"..... and then askes his dad...

Dad, are you suggesting that every persons Wedding Garment may be inside of them all throughout life, by God's specific design?

The man who the son never thought would break free of doctrines of men, that now searches scripture for any clue to understanding Jesus more, daily says... well, obviously.

This man's son felt like the grasshopper that had dwelled in a well to only find out that there was an entire world outside the well!

That was the "Camp Fire" discussion, which I thought you may at the very least, find interesting. :)
 
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I know a man who has an 85 year old Father who had been a minister for 41 years and is now retired and has been purging himself of 41 years of denominational input, via reading only scripture. He frequently asks his son to show him the passages that are about our Soul and going to Heaven to be with Jesus.

He's like a little kid asking question after question...

The discussion about how humans have Body, Soul and Spirit came up. So this man's son explained to him that the Body is the "Sarx" flesh, while the Spirit is what Jesus revealed to be the "Zoe" in Aramaic, which is defined as a direct share of life from God to Man, that is within man. Then the Hard part of discussion what is interchangeably called the Soul came up. (Nephish, Psyci, Ruah, Heart etc... etc... etc......)

So the son says; "The dust or Sarx returns to dust". The Zoe or Ruach returns to God who gave it. And... the soul is either Heaven bound or Sheol bound.

So, the son's father then asked the question that the son is sweating over being asked. So, the Zoe is a piece of God within all men?

So the son delicately answers his father back... well, erm... according to Strong's Biblical Dictionary... erm... Yes.

So the son's dad says... AHA! and quotes this verse: Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also put eternity in their hearts, but man cannot discover the work God has done from beginning to end.

The son of this man is astonished!

Then the son's father says to him.... have you considered this verse? 1 Corinthians 15:53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality

The son is even more astonished.

Then, the son's father blows his son's mind and says; Why would God just take back all of those pieces of Himself that He had given to each human that has ever been that had passed before He died on the cross?

So then... the son hears the verse in his heart cry out; "In My Father's House there are Many Rooms"..... and then askes his dad...

Dad, are you suggesting that every persons Wedding Garment may be inside of them all throughout life, by God's specific design?

The man who the son never thought would break free of doctrines of men, that now searches scripture for any clue to understanding Jesus more, daily says... well, obviously.

This man's son felt like the grasshopper that had dwelled in a well to only find out that there was an entire world outside the well!

That was the "Camp Fire" discussion, which I thought you may at the very least, find interesting. :)

Yes I do find it very interesting.
Thank you for sharing.

I see the Universe as a collection of organic and inorganic machines.
All having purpose and all being deliberate.
I see microbes and bacterias as micro-machines.
I see fauna and flora as medio-machines.
I see stars and planets as macro-machines.
All of which are created and owned by one supreme eternal entity, Alpha and Omega.

I understand that the 3d universe is a product of the 1st and 2nd dimension.
Both of which are equated to lines and both of which are eternal by nature.
Which means that the 3d universe could perish while the 1st and 2nd still remain fully operational and capable of producing another 3d Universe instantaneously.

I believe that the Macro-Machines (stars) project themselves into Medio-machines (Fauna/Humanoids)
I believe that by projecting stars into humanoids, God is able to identify the stars by seeing who they project into.
Through this observation, the Supreme is able to identify every star to every person.
This gives accountability and responsibility on to the stars as they project out for possibly forever.

an organic humanoid may only last for 1000 years, but a star can last for billions, and then be remade.

It also can be projected into anything Alpha and Omega orders.

Now the difference between the Son of God and the Son of Man is this,
The Son of God is an inorganic perfect man who became organic. John 3:16
His Father's name is the Alpha and Omega. Matthew 16:16

The Son of Man, is an Organic man who will be made inorganic, by Alpha and Omega Matthew 16:27 Revelation 7:16
His Father's name is David. Luke 20:41

Because they (The Son of Man and the Son of God) met at the crossroads in Mark 14:51-52
All disciples with Jesus had already seen the Son of Man before they were martyred.

The Son of Man therefore is the Lion of Judah, (only lions walk around israel naked)
However, the Son of Man and the Son of God knew that first all the nations on earth would be preached to,
before the introduction to the Lion.

Before God made man, God made the Animals.
These beings were and are still being remotely operated by the stars.
Some of those stars who became organic humans after day 6, were animals before.

Is why Christ is referred to as the lamb and the morning star,
Is why lucifer is referred to as a snake and a fallen star.
Is why the ManChildwarrior is referred to as the lion and will be given the morning star.
is why King Nebuchadnezzar reverted back into an ox,
and is why Jeremiah is a bullfrog. ;)

Because he has been given the reward by the Son of God, he shares his reward with those who love the Son of God as he does.

Then after 1000 years, we will be ready and prepared to meet the rest of the family.

Babysteps. ;)
 
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Yes I do find it very interesting.
Thank you for sharing.

I see the Universe as a collection of organic and inorganic machines.
All having purpose and all being deliberate.
I see microbes and bacterias as micro-machines.
I see fauna and flora as medio-machines.
I see stars and planets as macro-machines.
All of which are created and owned by one supreme eternal entity, Alpha and Omega.

I understand that the 3d universe is a product of the 1st and 2nd dimension.
Both of which are equated to lines and both of which are eternal by nature.
Which means that the 3d universe could perish while the 1st and 2nd still remain fully operational and capable of producing another 3d Universe instantaneously.

I believe that the Macro-Machines (stars) project themselves into Medio-machines (Fauna/Humanoids)
I believe that by projecting stars into humanoids, God is able to identify the stars by seeing who they project into.
Through this observation, the Supreme is able to identify every star to every person.
This gives accountability and responsibility on to the stars as they project out for possibly forever.

an organic humanoid may only last for 1000 years, but a star can last for billions, and then be remade.

It also can be projected into anything Alpha and Omega orders.

Now the difference between the Son of God and the Son of Man is this,
The Son of God is an inorganic perfect man who became organic. John 3:16
His Father's name is the Alpha and Omega. Matthew 16:16

The Son of Man, is an Organic man who will be made inorganic, by Alpha and Omega Matthew 16:27 Revelation 7:16
His Father's name is David. Luke 20:41

Because they (The Son of Man and the Son of God) met at the crossroads in Mark 14:51-52
All disciples with Jesus had already seen the Son of Man before they were martyred.

The Son of Man therefore is the Lion of Judah, (only lions walk around israel naked)
However, the Son of Man and the Son of God knew that first all the nations on earth would be preached to,
before the introduction to the Lion.

Before God made man, God made the Animals.
These beings were and are still being remotely operated by the stars.
Some of those stars who became organic humans after day 6, were animals before.

Is why Christ is referred to as the lamb and the morning star,
Is why lucifer is referred to as a snake and a fallen star.
Is why the ManChildwarrior is referred to as the lion and will be given the morning star.
is why King Nebuchadnezzar reverted back into an ox,
and is why Jeremiah is a bullfrog. ;)

Because he has been given the reward by the Son of God, he shares his reward with those who love the Son of God as he does.

Then after 1000 years, we will be ready and prepared to meet the rest of the family.

Babysteps. ;)
I'm going to have to read this quite a few times! I'm also going to look into that passage in Mark! My tiny brain is working overtime! Thank you so very much for sharing this!!

All Love to you in the name of Jesus Christ, Sibling in Him!
 
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Yes I do find it very interesting.
Thank you for sharing.

I see the Universe as a collection of organic and inorganic machines.
All having purpose and all being deliberate.
I see microbes and bacterias as micro-machines.
I see fauna and flora as medio-machines.
I see stars and planets as macro-machines.
All of which are created and owned by one supreme eternal entity, Alpha and Omega.

I understand that the 3d universe is a product of the 1st and 2nd dimension.
Both of which are equated to lines and both of which are eternal by nature.
Which means that the 3d universe could perish while the 1st and 2nd still remain fully operational and capable of producing another 3d Universe instantaneously.

I believe that the Macro-Machines (stars) project themselves into Medio-machines (Fauna/Humanoids)
I believe that by projecting stars into humanoids, God is able to identify the stars by seeing who they project into.
Through this observation, the Supreme is able to identify every star to every person.
This gives accountability and responsibility on to the stars as they project out for possibly forever.

an organic humanoid may only last for 1000 years, but a star can last for billions, and then be remade.

It also can be projected into anything Alpha and Omega orders.

Now the difference between the Son of God and the Son of Man is this,
The Son of God is an inorganic perfect man who became organic. John 3:16
His Father's name is the Alpha and Omega. Matthew 16:16

The Son of Man, is an Organic man who will be made inorganic, by Alpha and Omega Matthew 16:27 Revelation 7:16
His Father's name is David. Luke 20:41

Because they (The Son of Man and the Son of God) met at the crossroads in Mark 14:51-52
All disciples with Jesus had already seen the Son of Man before they were martyred.

The Son of Man therefore is the Lion of Judah, (only lions walk around israel naked)
However, the Son of Man and the Son of God knew that first all the nations on earth would be preached to,
before the introduction to the Lion.

Before God made man, God made the Animals.
These beings were and are still being remotely operated by the stars.
Some of those stars who became organic humans after day 6, were animals before.

Is why Christ is referred to as the lamb and the morning star,
Is why lucifer is referred to as a snake and a fallen star.
Is why the ManChildwarrior is referred to as the lion and will be given the morning star.
is why King Nebuchadnezzar reverted back into an ox,
and is why Jeremiah is a bullfrog. ;)

Because he has been given the reward by the Son of God, he shares his reward with those who love the Son of God as he does.

Then after 1000 years, we will be ready and prepared to meet the rest of the family.

Babysteps. ;)
How have I never zeroed in on this passage! It is there for a reason! Thank you for pointing this passage out! I will be studying this passage rigorously, now! Gratitude!

Mark 14:51 Now a certain young man, having a linen cloth wrapped around his naked body, was following Him. They caught hold of him, 52 but he left the linen cloth behind and ran away naked.​
It is a very mysterious passage! Wow! Deepest Gratitude for pointing it out!
 
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How have I never zeroed in on this passage! It is there for a reason! Thank you for pointing this passage out! I will be studying this passage rigorously, now! Gratitude!

Mark 14:51 Now a certain young man, having a linen cloth wrapped around his naked body, was following Him. They caught hold of him, 52 but he left the linen cloth behind and ran away naked.​
It is a very mysterious passage! Wow! Deepest Gratitude for pointing it out!
It is a puzzle; but like a puzzle, every piece should fit perfectly.

I am glad you enjoyed reading.
 
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