the myth of flat earth debunked again

[contratodo]

But it's not, because the sun is not anywhere near that close. Someone in the video you linked even gave the explanation: the sun is behind the plane, with the sunlight reflecting off the water droplets in the clouds to make it look like it was the same colour as the sun.

Your not referencing the video I gave, which is only 30 seconds with no vocals.

 

[contratodo]

If that is the sun it can simply be near sunset close to the horizon or even the plane tilted. The plane is certainly not higher than the sun. If you believe that then we should also be able to get to the moon, right?

We are able to fly to the moon just the same, and go straight through it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Your not referencing the video I gave, which is only 30 seconds with no vocals.

But I am. Though I did realise that I missed out a part since I meant to say: Someone in the comments of the video gave the explanation: the sun is behind the plane, with the sunlight reflecting off the water droplets in the clouds to make it look like it was the same colour as the sun.

 

[contratodo]

And who are YOU compared to God? You are putting words in God's mouth (and no, God doesn't have a mouth because He is spirit.)

I am not putting words in Gods mouth, I quoted directly the word of God.
Job 38 is an account of God almighty speaking.

God Almighty said He set bounds and doors for the sea. Job 38:8-10
"And said here shall your limit be, and here shall your proud waves be stayed"

 

[Phil G]

We are able to fly to the moon just the same, and go straight through it.

This is as imbecilic as I have heard.

 

[contratodo]

Though I did realise that I missed out a part since I meant to say: Someone in the comments of the video gave the explanation: the sun is behind the plane, with the sunlight reflecting off the water droplets in the clouds to make it look like it was the same colour as the sun.

Would have to be some gigantic water droplets or something else.

We can see a big ball of a sun for a bit peaking through the clouds beneath the plane.
And we can also notice the darkness away from the sun.

 

[Phil G]

I am not putting words in Gods mouth, I quoted directly the word of God.
Job 38 is an account of God almighty speaking.

You are, because you are interpreting His words by using YOUR words, and then claiming they are His. That is a serious sin against God.

 

[Phil G]

Would have to be some gigantic water droplets or something else.

We can see a big ball of a sun for a bit peaking through the clouds beneath the plane.
And we can also notice the darkness away from the sun.

Your claims get more stupid with every post!

 

[contratodo]

This is as imbecilic as I have heard.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Would have to be some gigantic water droplets or something else.

We can see a big ball of a sun for a bit peaking through the clouds beneath the plane.
And we can also notice the darkness away from the sun.

No, it wouldn't have to be a lot because, to many people's surprise, clouds are nothing BUT water droplets in absolutely miniscule sizes and the air itself is filled with water, but they're all subject to the laws of physics which includes reflection and refractions.

 

[contratodo]

Your claims get more stupid with every post!

What? We can see a something certainly bigger than a water droplet through the clouds, and we can see darkness away from the light coming from the sun. This is clear with the eyes, and why I posted a video, we are talking about a video anyone can see.

But surely I am more stupid than any man, and have not the understanding of a man....
Who made a garment for the sea?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
Proverbs 30:2-4

 

[Phil G]

And you believe THAT person???

 

[Phil G]

What? We can see a something certainly bigger than a water droplet through the clouds, and we can see darkness away from the light coming from the sun. This is clear with the eyes, and why I posted a video, we are talking about a video anyone can see.

But surely I am more stupid than any man, and have not the understanding of a man....
Who made a garment for the sea?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
Proverbs 30:2-4

Water droplets don't have to be big to reflect the sun, just condensed, as in a cloud!

 

[Hans Blaster]

If it is 93 million miles away and so very big one should not be able to capture the spherical edges of it, only a bright light.

This is nonsense. The angular size of the Sun is the same as of the Moon (about 1/2 degree, also why solar eclipses happen the way they do). If we can resolve features on the surface of the Moon we can do the same on the Sun. For the Sun it does take a slight bit of specialized equipment to capture the light of that intensity. (Filters for optical light) Once you use a filter to reduce the intensity of the light so it doesn't saturate your detector (destroy your eye), the surface features and intensity variation of limb darkening can be clearly seen. It is not a mystery. (You should review the video by "Father Ted" about small and near versus large and far.)

Yes, the light is how we see it,
but given the distance and the great size we certainly should not be able to see the spherical part of it, only just light.

Again, use the right equipment, but even with a quick glance with the naked eye (which we do all the time) the size of the disk (the bright area) is clearly seen without difficulty (just like the Moon).

The globe should be bathed in a ray of solid light,
and we should not be able to see the outer edges of the sun.

Light isn't a solid and the Earth is "bathed" in light from the Sun.

This is the supposed scale:


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With the math they give us:

The diameter of the earth is 7917.5 miles.
The diameter of the sun is 864,938 miles.

If you use the right units, both are 1. I suppose you could use miles.

How many earths could line up to the sun? 11,746.131
You could line up 109 earths across the face of the sun.

If they were next to each other, but they aren't. (It also seems that you want to compute distance in "Earth diameters". Fine.)

109 / 11,746.131= .0092796

.0092796 * 864,938 = 8,026 miles across worth of sun to see from earth.

What? Your ratio 0.0092796 is a "trig" ratio. In this case the value gives the output of sin(theta) = 0.0092796, and theta is then 0.53 degrees -- the angular diameter of the Sun.

It is becoming clear why you come to such bad conclusions about the solar system -- you don't understand trigonometry.

 

[contratodo]

And you believe THAT person???

Most believe many people over the Bible, most believe Nasa over the Bible.

I believe truth that is in line with the Bible. Not giving heed to oppositions of science falsely so called.

 

[Phil G]

Most believe many people over the Bible, most believe Nasa over the Bible.

I believe truth that is in line with the Bible. Not giving heed to oppositions of science falsely so called.

No you don't, you believe your own interpretation of the Bible. Where are the chariot clouds that God is on and the winged winds where He walks?

 

[trophy33]

Most believe many people over the Bible, most believe Nasa over the Bible.

I believe truth that is in line with the Bible. Not giving heed to oppositions of science falsely so called.

You show a huge ignorance about the Bible, actually. Not understanding it in many areas.

 

[contratodo]

What? Your ratio 0.0092796 is a "trig" ratio. In this case the value gives the output of sin(theta) = 0.0092796, and theta is then 0.53 degrees -- the angular diameter of the Sun.

It is becoming clear why you come to such bad conclusions about the solar system -- you don't understand trigonometry.

I gave factual maths.

109 earths could line the face of the sun.
11,746.131 earths code line up from the earth to the sun.

So we are getting how much sun we can see from the 1 earth.

109 / 11,746.131= .0092796
.0092796 * 864,938 = 8,026

The math gives us about 8,026 miles worth of sun, which means we can't see it all,
and we definitely shouldn't see the edges of it. And what we should see of it should be bigger than earth itself.

Where are the chariot clouds that God is on and the winged winds where He walks?

Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: Who maketh the clouds his chariot: Who walketh upon the wings of the wind
Psalms 104:3

the clouds themselves are His chariot is what it says.
He walks upon the wings of the wind is what it says.
He is above the sky is what it means.
In a city with streets of transparent gold.
In the end that city, comes, down. Revelation 22:1-2

 

[Phil G]

Not giving heed to oppositions of science falsely so called.

1 Timothy 6:20-21

'O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.'

This refers to those who claim special knowledge from God, in other words Gnosticism. It does not refer to scientific discovery as we know it. It is more appropriate for your claims rather than scientists who do not claim special knowledge from God.

 

[Phil G]

the clouds themselves are His chariot is what it says.
He walks upon the wings of the wind is what it says.
He is above the sky is what it means.
In a city with streets of transparent gold.
In the end that city, comes, down. Revelation 22:1-2

Where are the wheels of these chariots, or are you now claiming they are figurative chariots?

And where are the wings of the wind or is that figurative too?

The Psalmist never indicates he is referring to wind above the sky, nor does he refer to clouds above the sky. He says "the wind" and "the clouds". This obviously refers to the wind we feel and the clouds we see, not your imaginary ones. You are inserting these meanings yourself and adding to the Scripture.