the myth of flat earth debunked again

[Phil G]

The Airy failure experiment anyone can do.
Sagnacs epxeriement anyone can do.
The cardboard cloud experiment anyone can do demonstrating the nature of local light.
This recent video I just posted
The Bible

These are things I have mentioned in this thread that have not gotten sincere rebuts,
what I get is people trying to call me names and label me, not any kind of hard facts and evidence.



The video you posted does not go over the video I posted, it is talking about a different video at 47,000 feet.
The video I showed is from 28,000 feet.

Now you're being deliberately argumentative. The video explains why the sun can appear to be below an airplane.

 

[contratodo]

The horizon exists because we are on a ball. If we weren't, there wouldn't be a horizon because there would be no curve because it'd be flat!

Even inside of a flat straight building as you look down a hall there is a horizon.

 

[contratodo]

Now you're being deliberately argumentative. The video explains why the sun can appear to be below an airplane.

47,000 and 28,000 are big differences.

The sun was below even at 28,000 shattering the explanation given for 47,000.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Even inside of a flat straight building as you look down a hall there is a horizon.

What kind of buildings have you been in that you see a horizon inside them? Because I think you're talking a load of bollocks.

 

[Astrid]

If you are not a Christian you can disregard all my words. My words would only have a strong effect on one who believes in the Bible.

You don't believe the bible. You believe yourself.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

47,000 and 28,000 are big differences.

The sun was below even at 28,000 shattering the explanation given for 47,000.

But it's not, because the sun is not anywhere near that close. Someone in the video you linked even gave the explanation: the sun is behind the plane, with the sunlight reflecting off the water droplets in the clouds to make it look like it was the same colour as the sun. It's the same way we get all the colours as the sun rises and sets.

 

[Phil G]

47,000 and 28,000 are big differences.

The sun was below even at 28,000 shattering the explanation given for 47,000.

As I say you are being deliberately argumentative. That shatters nothing except your claimed belief, which at this stage sounds more and more ridiculous.

 

[contratodo]

Where does the Bible say that the tabernacle for the sun is the sky?

Psalms 19 as I quoted
The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament declares His handywork....
in them He has set a tabernacle for the sun

Also Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the land"

 

[Phil G]

Even inside of a flat straight building as you look down a hall there is a horizon.

Not unless the hall happens to be 3 miles long and free of any obstruction. And even then it will follow the earth's curve which is why you will get a horizon.

 

[Astrid]

No they don't. They sound just as ridiculous to most who believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

And that they are personally infallible.

If you are not a Christian, my words here and about the Bible are not to you.
I am on this Christian forums trying to convey things to Christians.

I can't outsmart the devil, but the Bible already has.

The Bible says the person measured the circular basin with a stick and got 10 and 30 respectively.
He rounded what he got, because he was just using a 1x stick, not having decimals.
We can also round values that make pie and get the same result.

29.9079368 / 9.52 === 3.14159
Math.round(29.9079368) = 30
Math.round(9.52) = 10

Pie is mathematically closest to 3 not 3.2.

Yes, rounded off, approximate. Exactly.

You agree that the Bible is only approximately
true. Like it has "Egypt". That much is true

 

[contratodo]

You don't believe the bible. You believe yourself.

Do you believe the Bible?
Or do you claim that the Bible is wrong, saying how that Pie is 3?

 

[Phil G]

Psalms 19 as I quoted
The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament declares His handywork....
in them He has set a tabernacle for the sun

Also Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the land"

Nope, two completely different verses indicating two completely different things. A tabernacle is something which can be entered and exited. The sun does neither in the sky, nor does the moon.

 

[Phil G]

Do you believe the Bible?
Or do you claim that the Bible is wrong, saying how that Pie is 3?

And I repeat, where are the chariot clouds with God on them and where are the winged winds where God walks?

 

[contratodo]

Yes, rounded off, approximate. Exactly.

The Bible simple does not say that Pie is 3.

This is what is said, that is a common tactic to twist and use against Christians.

"He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other ....
and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
1 Kings 7:23

10 and 30.

One coming at a perfect cubit sized circle with only a 1x measuring stick, a 1 cubit stick, would get about 30 and 10.

Which is, in exact numbers, 29.9079368 cubits and 9.52 cubits, which we can see is indeed mathematically very close to 30 and 10.
Rounded it is 30 and 10.

 

[contratodo]

Nope, two completely different verses indicating two completely different things. A tabernacle is something which can be entered and exited. The sun does neither in the sky, nor does the moon.

You know what the sun does based on what?
I know what the sun does based on the Bible.

 

[Phil G]

You know what the sun does based on what?
I know what the sun does based on the Bible.

You claim to know the sun but it is based on your interpretation of the Bible. But I know I'm wasting my time on you. As Dean Swift said:

"Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired"

A Letter to a Young Gentleman, Lately Enter'd Into Holy Orders

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[contratodo]

As Dean Swift said:

"Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired"

Who is Dean Swift compared to David and God Almighty.

David inspired by the Holy Spirit said that the sun rejoices as a strong man to run a race. Psalms 19:5-6

God Almighty said He set bounds and doors for the sea. Job 38:8-10
"And said here shall your limit be, and here shall your proud waves be stayed"

 

[Phil G]

Who is Dean Swift compared to David and God Almighty.

David inspired by the Holy Spirit said that the sun rejoices as a strong man to run a race. Psalms 19:5-6

God Almighty said He set bounds and doors for the sea. Job 38:8-10
"And said here shall your limit be, and here shall your proud waves be stayed"

And who are YOU compared to God? You are putting words in God's mouth (and no, God doesn't have a mouth because He is spirit.)

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Who is Dean Swift compared to David and God Almighty.

David inspired by the Holy Spirit said that the sun rejoices as a strong man to run a race. Psalms 19:5-6

God Almighty said He set bounds and doors for the sea. Job 38:8-10
"And said here shall your limit be, and here shall your proud waves be stayed"

Why is it that you correctly call Psalms songs but fail to notice allegory and poetic language in those verses?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

If that is the sun it can simply be near sunset close to the horizon or even the plane tilted. The plane is certainly not higher than the sun. If you believe that then we should also be able to get to the moon, right?