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The Fall of the West (It's Happening Now)

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I wish God will change this country, but so far it looks like he is just allowing the evil and darkness to complete it's natural conclusion. The very sad part is a lot of it is being done on purpose and they are now very emboldened.

It might also well be too late unless there is a very radical event.

I'm glad for these threads because I am part of the same age group and at least good to know I'm not the only one in my boat that feels this way.
 
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If a handful of fringe minorities by way of the internet can appear to dominate the political spectrum and change society as we have seen in the last decade, then there is no reason for those not walking in the ways of mankind to do the same.
 
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All the Christian spreading of peace and love didn't stop or slow down the collapse from happening, in fact the factors leading to it just grew unchec
Perhaps because they used political methods. You can't change the world by using its own tools.
 
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Perhaps because they used political methods. You can't change the world by using its own tools.
Those who didn't want to use political methods didn't change it in a noticeable way either.
 
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Those who didn't want to use political methods didn't change it in a noticeable way either.
Of course not.. they were too few, although the idea behind the ten commandments did influence a great part of civilization. Even the 60's that got off to a good start following the same ideology quickly became tainted and fell apart in no time. It is meant to be an individual change and a one to one relationship with God for now. It is not time yet for a reverse of polarity.
 
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Of course not.. they were too few, although the idea behind the ten commandments did influence a great part of civilization. Even the 60's that got off to a good start following the same ideology quickly became tainted and fell apart in no time. It is meant to be an individual change and a one to one relationship with God for now. It is not time yet for a reverse of polarity.
These people will not ever face justice either, except for Hell maybe. But what's the point of that?
 
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We should see the administration of this country, America, is pushing things recklessly and it would come to disasters, so easily.
It, like other nations and even thre institutional church, always have, seeking to fit into the ways of the world and teaching self-interest, adversity to the will of God rather than the ways of the Kingdom. All self oriented.
 
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I wish God will change this country, but so far it looks like he is just allowing the evil and darkness to complete it's natural conclusion. The very sad part is a lot of it is being done on purpose and they are now very emboldened.

It might also well be too late unless there is a very radical event.

I'm glad for these threads because I am part of the same age group and at least good to know I'm not the only one in my boat that feels this way.
Its too late and was always going to be this way. In fact I believe it has taken a giant step towards that end. I can see it in my own lifetime in how people have rejected God and chaos has resulted.

But remember though God allows such things there is a limit. Remember S & G and even the Egyptians and even the Hebrews when they rejected God this set off a series of bad stuff happening. Usually it was through natural disasters. But I believe the earth is also moving towards this end and is groaning and shifting as evil is thrust upon it.

It all goes hand in hand and humans have cultivated their own destruction. We will see many great disasters even topling great idols and icons of the world. Eathquakes and eruptions as the earth shifts into a time of upheavel. But also fighting in the streets and rebellion and hate and chaos.

This is what happens when we reject God. Its always been the same and we can predict it. I think now in the west we have moved more away from God than at anytime since Christ. We are now in the Godless period once again.

But this time its Empire and perhaps even on a worldwide scale and not just a city or people warring. But there are dark principalities rising up against each other.

Christians are together and seperate from this in Christ. Like the early church under the Roman pagan world. We will be the light to the world in this in all this darkness.
 
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