Facts to disprove theory of evolution

[AV1611VET]

God's creation is studied under extreme bias (i.e., limited) conditions, viz. no miracles allowed.

Because miracles, by their nature, cannot be studied in any way, and thus are useless as far as science is concerned.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[AV1611VET]

Identifying a problem, even if it turns out to be nothing, and finding a way to solve said problem is a lot different than 'starting a fire then putting it out'.

Depends on who started the problem (i.e., lit the fire).

As I said, Y2K is a good example.

Scientists started that fire (or fanned it if a non-scientist did).

Then -- da da da dot ta daaa! -- science to the rescue to put it out!

 

[BCP1928]

Depends on who started the problem (i.e., lit the fire).

As I said, Y2K is a good example.

Scientists started that fire (or fanned it if a non-scientist did).

Then -- da da da dot ta daaa! -- science to the rescue to put it out!

I'm not aware that any scientists had anything to do with Y2K or the hysteria it generated. Do you have anybody particularly in mind?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Thanks for the QED.

It's the truth though. If you can use miracles to explain anything, then it's worthless as far as science is concerned since it does explain anything. And thus it has zero explanatory power and thus no use.

Hard as it may be for you to accept: science explains things.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Depends on who started the problem (i.e., lit the fire).

As I said, Y2K is a good example.

Scientists started that fire (or fanned it if a non-scientist did).

Then -- da da da dot ta daaa! -- science to the rescue to put it out!

I think you're talking out of your rearend as usual.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think you're talking out of your rearend as usual.

Where's that asteroid that was going to hit the earth, and we shot some missile at it to deflect it off course?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Where's that asteroid that was going to hit the earth, and we shot some missile at it to deflect it off course?

Before I give an answer, I just want to check that you're thinking of this:

NASA’s DART Mission Hits Asteroid in First-Ever Planetary Defense Test​

And not something from a sci-fi film, correct?

 

[AV1611VET]

Before I give an answer, I just want to check that you're thinking of this:

NASA’s DART Mission Hits Asteroid in First-Ever Planetary Defense Test​

And not something from a sci-fi film, correct?

Correct.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Correct.

Right okay.

... I fail to see how that's a problem. Would you get mad with scientist went "We've found a way to predict hurricanes, therefore we can warn people sooner."?

Like... are you really so set on vilifying scientists that they even if they have a way to stop a major catastrophe (having a way is not the same as saying it'd work but still), you still consider that "starting a fire then putting it out themselves"?
Good lord, but you really are a vulture, aren't you?

 

[AV1611VET]

Would you get mad with scientist went "We've found a way to predict hurricanes, therefore we can warn people sooner."?

I'm already MAD.

QV my avatar.

Okay, just kidding.

No.

I would not get mad.

Like... are you really so set on vilifying scientists that they even if they have a way to stop a major catastrophe (having a way is not the same as saying it'd work but still), you still consider that "starting a fire then putting it out themselves"?

If these scientists start waiving their clipboards about the earth being destroyed, yes.

They need to be put in their place.

Good lord, but you really are a vulture, aren't you?

Vultures play a crucial role in our ecosystem. As scavengers, they eat dead animals, removing them from roadsides and other areas. Vultures not only cut down on the number of rotten, smelly carcasses but also reduce the spread of diseases.

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[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No.

I would not get mad.

So why get annoyed at something that, even though it's an incredibly rare thing to happen could...

If these scientists start flapping their clipboards about the earth being destroyed, yes.

They need to be put in their place.

Oh yeah, this answers it.
"Only God can destroy the world when He is ready to do so! No scientist can say it is even in trouble since it offends my good Christian senses and my literalist view of the Bible!!!"

This could be argued in so many ways as pre-determinism, but I call it a weird and dangerous form of laziness. Reminds me of a joke.

Vultures play a crucial role in our ecosystem. As scavengers, they eat dead animals, removing them from roadsides and other areas. Vultures not only cut down on the number of rotten, smelly carcasses but also reduce the spread of diseases.

If you describe a person as a vulture, you disapprove of them because you think they are trying to gain from another person's troubles.

SOURCE

 

[AV1611VET]

So why get annoyed at something that, even though it's an incredibly rare thing to happen could...

I get annoyed at people lighting fires, then putting them out to make themselves look good.

Oh yeah, this answers it.

"Only God can destroy the world when He is ready to do so!

That's correct.

Genesis 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

No scientist can say it is even in trouble since it offends my good Christian senses and my literalist view of the Bible!!!"

This bears repeating:

If everything happened that scientists said would happen, we'd been gone a long time ago.

This could be argued in so many ways as pre-determinism, but I call it a weird and dangerous form of laziness.

Even Saddam Hussein called science's bluff, when he set the oil fields of Kuwait on fire.

Those oil fields burned for days, and they didn't produce the amount of clouding that was supposed to block the sun and freeze the earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Incidentally, Warden, what's your take on this picture?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I get annoyed at people lighting fires, then putting them out to make themselves look good.

Which you've not once shown scientists doing. So you're spouting out your rearend.

That's correct.

Yeah, that's just a dangerous sense of laziness right there.

This bears repeating:

If everything happened that scientists said would happen, we'd been gone a long time ago.

Only you believe that.

Even Saddam Hussein called science's bluff, when he set the oil fields of Kuwait on fire.

Those oil fields burned for days, and they didn't produce the amount of clouding that was supposed to block the sun and freeze the earth.

Scientists said that it COULD have happened, not that it WOULD happen.

You are a vulture for sure.

Incidentally, Warden, what's your take on this picture?

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Since that doomsday clock is for atomic war, and we're in a situation where several very unstable political figures are in power who have no actual right to even be allowed to be near anything remotely close to nuclear weapons in any way shape of form, with one in an active war and from a culture that does not care about the phrase 'collateral damage', I have no problems with it.

SINCE IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENTISTS.

YOU'RE A VULTURE!

 

[AV1611VET]

Even Saddam Hussein called science's bluff, when he set the oil fields of Kuwait on fire.

Scientists said that it COULD have happened, not that it WOULD happen.

What's with making it past tense?

I'm talking about before he set those fires.

Not after he set them.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What's with making it past tense?

I'm talking about before he set those fires.

Not after he set them.

Because it was event that happened in 1991, in the past. Therefore, in talking about a past event, I use the past tense.

 

[sjastro]

I think you're talking out of your rearend as usual.

I think you should show some compassion.

Labcoatophobia: The New Psychological Phenomenon
In a groundbreaking study, psychologists have identified a new type of phobia they’ve termed “Labcoatophobia”. This condition is characterized by an irrational fear of scientists and scientific environments.
The term ‘Labcoatophobia’ was coined after a series of participants reported anxiety and unease at the mere thought of lab coats, beakers, and the scientific method. Symptoms include sweaty palms, a racing heart, and an overwhelming urge to flee when in the presence of scientists or scientific paraphernalia.
Dr. Jane Smith, a leading psychologist on the study, stated, “While it may sound humorous, Labcoatophobia can have serious implications for individuals affected by it, hindering their ability to engage with science-based activities or professions.”
The research team is exploring therapeutic interventions, including exposure therapy and cognitive-behavioral techniques, to help individuals overcome this fear. The discovery of Labcoatophobia opens up a new field of study, emphasizing the need for a deeper understanding of phobias and their impact on society.
As the world becomes increasingly driven by science and technology, addressing Labcoatophobia is not just a matter of individual well-being, but also a step towards a scientifically literate and engaged public.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I think you should show some compassion.

Honestly, I think he got bullied by the local nerd in his school and it's left deep seated resentment against anything science related.

But he still uses the internet...

 

[BPPLEE]

So why get annoyed at something that, even though it's an incredibly rare thing to happen could...



Oh yeah, this answers it.
"Only God can destroy the world when He is ready to do so! No scientist can say it is even in trouble since it offends my good Christian senses and my literalist view of the Bible!!!"

This could be argued in so many ways as pre-determinism, but I call it a weird and dangerous form of laziness. Reminds me of a joke.



If you describe a person as a vulture, you disapprove of them because you think they are trying to gain from another person's troubles.

SOURCE

Then calling someone a vulture would be against forum rules

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then calling someone a vulture would be against forum rules

Eh, maybe, but I'm stating my opinion of him as he deserves to be told.