Show me a country that plans to build 800 charging stations/day for the next nine years straight.
Can't show you that. Was that part of the plan laid out by Biden?
I did just show you a list of countries that will have more ambitious targets (and comparably long travelling distances) in terms of cars on the road though.
You must be new to government funding.
I'm not. And I'd still be curious how all that came to be.
It is absolutely not a moot point, and your insistence that it is denies the reality of the situation.
Even if 95% of your driving is running around locally, many people can only afford one car. That one car has to meet ALL of their needs, even the 5% that you want to call a "moot point".
Honestly, I'm still waiting to hear about the "all kinds of hurdles" you mentioned before.
The 5% I I did NOT include could EASILY be managed with planning and extra time. I know inconvinience is HARD for many Americans but you COULD do it.
Whether you choose to believe it or not, range anxiety is a very real thing. My brother-in-law bought a Chevy Spark last year. He drove It from Chicago, IL to Greenville, SC. It added more than 6 HOURS of charging time to his trip in both directions. I am 100% unwilling to add 6 hours (or much more) to my long-distance travel, and I can promise you I am not alone.
Being where I live I have 0 concept of how long of a drive that is. Sorry.
When I drive to Florida, I have to stop to get gas 3 times. Each fill-up takes 2-3 minutes. For those of you keeping score at home, that's 9 minutes of fueling. That's the standard I'm looking for in a recharge. I might even be willing to go a bit longer than that, because while the actual fueling only takes 2-3 minutes, the stop is probably closer to 10-15 minutes with bathroom breaks, snack purchases, etc. But when I see charge times of 90-120 minutes to gain an extra 200-250 miles of range, that's an absolute non-starter for me.
We will see improvements in charging times very soon.
I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford two cars, and when the time comes to replace my second vehicle, I may well consider an EV for my short-range driving. We'll see what prices and technology are like when that time comes. But not everyone has that ability.
That is close to our position as well. We just got my wife a new car. Once my wife gets her full time permanent teaching contract, I'm getting a midsized fuel efficent truck (well, as much as can be). After that, all our new vehicles will be electric.
The point I keep making is that the technology is simply not ready for mass-adoption and is not going to be ready by 2032. To quote the auto dealerships from their second letter linked above, "Mr. President, we share your belief in an electric vehicle future. We only ask that you not accelerate into that future before the road is ready."
My point is that the waiting has been long enough and that the initial cash investment is there. As it stands, what's going to happen if certain Republican states drag their feet on applying for funds for those charging stations? What happens when Republicans try to stop the funding from going through?
Technology IS ready. Infrastructure is not. The money required to make it a reality is weeving it's way to where it needs to go. But states need to work toward making it happen. Whether it WILL do it in enough time? Well, maybe it'll take 3 or 4 extra years. But I can guarantee that without what Biden has done, it would take way more than a decade to get there.
Your solution to these very real problems with EVs seems to be to pretend like they either aren't real or don't exist. Downplaying or minimizing people's very real concerns is the most surefire way to ensure they resist the transition.
Here's the thing though. Sometimes people don't see the problems are within themself. I would wager you can agree htat there are DEFINITELY people out there who mismanage their money. There are posters on here who believe that 90% of poverty is self inflicted. If that's the case (and I don't believe it, but they do) what if the concerns people have can be desuaded by argument.
Again, 95% of your travelling with the only problematic times being on longer trips....and problematic at THIS point widdles down to having to spend a bit more extra time on a communte. If I do a trip ONCE A year, yeah, I'm willing to spend a LOT of
What about this: If you're driving your ICE for that 95%, you are filling up a every week say...that would work out to about 4 hours you'd spend filling your car every year. When you're on electric you plug in your car at home and walk away.
I try to be factual and objective in my responses. I have appreciated discussing things with you even though we don't agree on many things.
HAHA....yeah...no doubt eh?
That's fine.
I actually prefer speaking to people who disagree with me because it challenges me. I'm not a fan of echo chambers. So thank you for the respectful discourse.
I LIKE speaking to people who disagree with me but not everyone who disagree with me is challenging (and I'm sure you'd say the same). Some posters are just.....lazy, or sadly, annoying in their style. I don't find that with you. YOu're just challenging.
So...back atcha!
