Of course you know about the religious right...

[ozso]

Maybe you don't know what "transvestite" means. Do you think it means all that? Seriously?

Yeah didn't catch that you decided to limit the whole diverse trans community to just transvestites. I'll have to be more careful of your tactics.

 

[The Barbarian]

Yeah didn't catch that you decided to limit the whole diverse trans community to just transvestites. I'll have to be more careful of your tactics.

My original statement was about transvestites.
"Didn't know transvestites were required to be ideological. Is there an instruction manual or something?"

I did catch that you tried to conflate them with "trans." It's why I didn't allow you that dodge.

 

[The Barbarian]

I know someone like that. Her biological mother dumped her on relatives right after birth and took off to live whatever life she wanted. "Mother" is her aunt, who took her in and raised her with love and care. Her biological mother is only that.

In the case of what I'm talking about the aunt being called "mother" would be eliminated. And she wouldn't qualify for the replacement term of "birthing person".

Then maybe we should be aware that there are lots of difference cases where things aren't so easy to push into your categories.

 

[The Barbarian]

Then it’s not safe to be around either

It's not safe to drive a car, or take a shower, either. But it's a lot safer to be around other Americans now, than it was just a few decades ago:

 

[The Barbarian]

No. I merely noted that ministers are more likely to be a hazard to kids than people who are not in child-oriented jobs. For the reasons we discussed. The Catholic Church for example, has implemented controls to make it harder to be alone with or in a position to abuse a child. Some other denominations are following that lead. Those inclined to abuse kids will tend to find jobs that put them in a position to do so. But you don't have to make it easy for them.

Children are statistically safer around transvestites than they are are around ministers, because the data indicate that transvestites are less likely to be pedophiles.

No,

You still don't get it. The data show that ministers are more likely to be pedophiles than transvestites. It's not something you can dismiss by refusing to believe it.

Once you have made the first wicked lifestyle choice (to be gay or trans or whatever) you have repudiated Christian moral compass and the next wicked lifestyle choice becomes easier and it's a slippery slope leading right to pedophilia.

If so, then becoming a Christian minister is "repudiating Christian moral compass." You sure about that?

 

[ozso]

I know someone like that. Her biological mother dumped her on relatives right after birth and took off to live whatever life she wanted. "Mother" is her aunt, who took her in and raised her with love and care. Her biological mother is only that.


Then maybe we should be aware that there are lots of difference cases where things aren't so easy to push into your categories.

So you're in favor of "mother" being eliminated and replaced by "birthing person"?

 

[ozso]

My original statement was about transvestites.
"Didn't know transvestites were required to be ideological. Is there an instruction manual or something?"

I did catch that you tried to conflate them with "trans." It's why I didn't allow you that dodge.

I'm always talking about the entire trans community as a whole when talking about trans. Why are you narrowing it down to just travesties?

BTW "transvestite" is an outdated term that was replaced with "cross-dresser". I'd say if one is going to defend the trans community, one should be more in step with their preferred vernacular.

 

[BPPLEE]

It's not safe to drive a car, or take a shower, either. But it's a lot safer to be around other Americans now, than it was just a few decades ago:

Statistics often don’t indicate what people extrapolate from them.
Most shark attacks occur in 3 feet of water. That’s because most people at the beach are in 3 feet of water.
Will you be safer if you swim further out? No.
You’re more likely to be struck by lightning than attacked by a shark.
True. Until you get in the water.
You have to be careful what conclusions you draw from statistics.

 

[The Barbarian]

It's not safe to drive a car, or take a shower, either. But it's a lot safer to be around other Americans now, than it was just a few decades ago:

Statistics often don’t indicate what people extrapolate from them.

No extrapolation here. Just showing you that the violent crime rate is a lot less than it was a few decades ago. Maybe you don't know what "extrapolation" means in statistics. What do you think it means? The conclusion from the data, is that Americans are less violent than they were in the old days. Which means we are safer around other Americans than we were decades ago.

BTW...

extrapolation

noun​

1. A calculation of an estimate of the value of some function outside the range of known values.
2. An inference about some hypothetical situation based on known facts.
3. (mathematics) calculation of the value of a function outside the range of known values.

And...
The U.S. is on course to end 2023 with one of the largest annual drops in homicides on record, according to preliminary figures from AH Datalytics, a data analysis firm.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/28/us-murder-violent-crime-rates-drop

Incidentally, since you brought it up...

The past three years have marked an abrupt drop in global shark attacks from previous totals in the high 80s. 2017’s 88 unprovoked bites, for example, were average at the time. Still, 2020’s total of 57 bites worldwide represents a larger-than-expected decrease from 2019 and 2018, Naylor said.

Shark attack numbers remained ‘extremely low’ in 2020, but fatalities spiked

Shark attacks decreased for the third consecutive year, falling to 57 unprovoked bites worldwide in 2020, compared with 64 bites in 2019 and 66 in 2018, according to the annual summary issued by the University of Florida’s International Shark Attack File. The most recent five-year global average san

www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu

Unfortunately, we have no data on the number of attacking sharks who were also illegal immigrants, so we don't know if illegal immigrant sharks are as law-abiding as illegal immigrant humans.

 

[The Barbarian]

I'm always talking about the entire trans community as a whole when talking about trans. Why are you narrowing it down to just travesties?

Someone commented on the perceived threat of transvestites to children.

BTW "transvestite" is an outdated term that was replaced with "cross-dresser". I'd say if one is going to defend the trans community, one should be more in step with their preferred vernacular.

Maybe you should put out a bulletin or something for the rest of us.

 

[ozso]

Someone commented on the perceived threat of transvestites to children.

Drag queens are part of the trans community as whole which has an ideology they want to teach to children, which they've openly declared is their agenda.

Maybe you should put out a bulletin or something for the rest of us.

I'd rather that folks be familiar with the trans community and their ideology if they're going to defend it.

 

[BPPLEE]

It's not safe to drive a car, or take a shower, either. But it's a lot safer to be around other Americans now, than it was just a few decades ago:
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No extrapolation here. Just showing you that the violent crime rate is a lot less than it was a few decades ago. Maybe you don't know what "extrapolation" means in statistics. What do you think it means? The conclusion from the data, is that Americans are less violent than they were in the old days. Which means we are safer around other Americans than we were decades ago.

BTW...

extrapolation

noun​

1. A calculation of an estimate of the value of some function outside the range of known values.
2. An inference about some hypothetical situation based on known facts.
3. (mathematics) calculation of the value of a function outside the range of known values.

And...
The U.S. is on course to end 2023 with one of the largest annual drops in homicides on record, according to preliminary figures from AH Datalytics, a data analysis firm.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/28/us-murder-violent-crime-rates-drop

Incidentally, since you brought it up...

The past three years have marked an abrupt drop in global shark attacks from previous totals in the high 80s. 2017’s 88 unprovoked bites, for example, were average at the time. Still, 2020’s total of 57 bites worldwide represents a larger-than-expected decrease from 2019 and 2018, Naylor said.

Shark attack numbers remained ‘extremely low’ in 2020, but fatalities spiked

Shark attacks decreased for the third consecutive year, falling to 57 unprovoked bites worldwide in 2020, compared with 64 bites in 2019 and 66 in 2018, according to the annual summary issued by the University of Florida’s International Shark Attack File. The most recent five-year global average san

www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu

Unfortunately, we have no data on the number of attacking sharks who were also illegal immigrants, so we don't know if illegal immigrant sharks are as law-abiding as illegal immigrant humans.

I wasn’t talking about crime statistics, although they are not reliable because reporting is voluntary and some departments under report or don’t report at all.
While they are some help they are not 100% accurate

 

[KCfromNC]

I was being a wise guy. The "zone" is a belt used in EO vestments.

My wife will tell you I'm not really a go-to for fashion information. Doubly so for fashion in the religion industry.

 

[The Barbarian]

I wasn’t talking about crime statistics, although they are not reliable because reporting is voluntary and some departments under report or don’t report at all.

Always true. You're confusing precision an accuracy. Since we're measuring apples to apples, you get the same result. On the other hand, if you're claiming that something has affected reporting over those years, you'd have to come up with a checkable and specific claim. What do you have?

Wouldn't it just be better to accept the reality?

 

[The Barbarian]

Drag queens are part of the trans community as whole which has an ideology they want to teach to children, which they've openly declared is their agenda.

So you've equated transvestites with drag queens? I think we've found the problem.

And I don't think "we would like to be not abused by other people, and accepted as human" is an ideology, although it might be an agenda in places where people do abuse them.

It might ease your anxieties to read up on the differences. Or, possibly aggravate them. Whatever.

 

[BPPLEE]

Always true. You're confusing precision an accuracy. Since we're measuring apples to apples, you get the same result. On the other hand, if you're claiming that something has affected reporting over those years, you'd have to come up with a checkable and specific claim. What do you have?

Wouldn't it just be better to accept the reality?

Yes. I don’t know why you reject the reality that the reporting does not reflect 100% of the crime. Just accept it.

Politicians love to cite crime data. It’s often wrong. • Kansas Reflector

Across the country, law enforcement agencies’ inability — or refusal — to send their annual crime data to the FBI has resulted in a distorted picture of the United States’ crime trends, according to a new Stateline analysis of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program participation data."

kansasreflector.com

While the overall violent crime rate has steadily declined on average over the past 20 years, the Pew Research Center suggested that voters might be reacting to specific types of violent crime, such as homicide, which saw a 30% increase between 2019 and 2020 — one of the largest year-over-year increases on record.

 

[BPPLEE]

So you've equated transvestites with drag queens? I think we've found the problem.

And I don't think "we would like to be not abused by other people, and accepted as human" is an ideology, although it might be an agenda in places where people do abuse them.

Drag Queens don’t qualify as transvestites?

 

[BCP1928]

So you've equated transvestites with drag queens? I think we've found the problem.

And I don't think "we would like to be not abused by other people, and accepted as human" is an ideology, although it might be an agenda in places where people do abuse them.

It might ease your anxieties to read up on the differences. Or, possibly aggravate them. Whatever.

They all have one thing in common--the most important and dangerous thing about them. They reject Christian gender conformity and would like to persuade our kids to at least not take it so seriously..

 

[The Barbarian]

They all have one thing in common--the most important and dangerous thing about them. They reject Christian gender conformity and would like to persuade our kids to at least not take it so seriously..

Maybe learning to accept that others have different beliefs wouldn't be such a terrible thing for them.

 

[DaisyDay]

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This person identifies as being fat. Should we who do not have body dysphoria identify as cis bodied?

If you like; I don't think anyone would care.