How come every rule, law, industry, country seems to be against the USA right?

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We don’t have enough detention facilities to hold that number of people.
Look, if you are confident that all you have to say is that you are in danger and they will just let you through.
Then why not take a drive so that you can experience the "open borders" for yourself.
Leave your IDs at home, drive over the border and turn around and come back in.
If they stop you, just tell them you are seeking asylum, tell them you are in danger and tell them what city you want to go to. Watch with glee them let you through. In fact why not record the whole thing and post it online. I think you might surprise many people who, like me, think you would get put in detention centre and wait there for a couple of weeks for your asylum interview and then a few months for your court case.
 
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Look, if you are confident that all you have to say is that you are in danger and they will just let you through.
Then why not take a drive so that you can experience the "open borders" for yourself.
Leave your IDs at home, drive over the border and turn around and come back in.
If they stop you, just tell them you are seeking asylum, tell them you are in danger and tell them what city you want to go to. Watch with glee them let you through. In fact why not record the whole thing and post it online. I think you might surprise many people who, like me, think you would get put in detention centre and wait there for a couple of weeks for your asylum interview and then a few months for your court case.
You forgot that I would have to illegally cross the border and not drive through a port of entry where people who do the right thing are put through the ringer trying to get in.
 
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You forgot that I would have to illegally cross the border and not drive through a port of entry where people who do the right thing are put through the ringer trying to get in.
Oh, OK, I'm not clear on what your beliefs are. It seems you think people going through the port of entry get a harder time.

Are you aware that if you cross not at a port of entry and you get caught, you can be charged with illegal entry, even if you are claiming asylum?
 
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He’s talking about refugees, including women and children, as an invasion. As a problem militarily for this country. Trump said they are poisoning the blood of our country. This is the language used to turn up the heat to get people nearer to the idea they can be killed if they are a problem. It doesn’t matter if they entered here legally or illegally. That is vile. Stop defending it.
In a sense it is if they are coming here illegally. Not everyone coming across the boarder is a refugee or in genuine need of asylum. The progressives wish to paint that picture but it's not true. It doesn't matter if they are women, children or men. In fact it is mostly men that are coming and not women and children. If they are coming in swarms like they are, I can see why invasion might be used. It may be a peaceful one but and large, they are not shooting their way across, but they are coming and taking our money.

I don't like the way Trump talks. Never have. But he is who he is. And it looks more and more like he may just be our next president. But I don't believe anyone here is calling for the mowing down of all immigrants coming across the border.

So please, stop the rhetoric. You are just adding to the progressive ideas that Christians are evil and want people to be machine gunned to death. I'm not going to be bullied by that nonsense.
 
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In a sense it is if they are coming here illegally. Not everyone coming across the boarder is a refugee or in genuine need of asylum. The progressives wish to paint that picture but it's not true.
As far as I know.. No one paints that picture. This is a gross mischaracterisation.
It doesn't matter if they are women, children or men. In fact it is mostly men that are coming and not women and children. If they are coming in swarms like they are, I can see why invasion might be used. It may be a peaceful one but and large, they are not shooting their way across, but they are coming and taking our money.
No one is taking your money.
It isn't an invasion, it is a group of people travelling together for safety.
I don't like the way Trump talks. Never have. But he is who he is. And it looks more and more like he may just be our next president. But I don't believe anyone here is calling for the mowing down of all immigrants coming across the border.
Trump doesn't mind white people coming in from Norway.
You are just adding to the progressive ideas that Christians are evil and want people to be machine gunned to death.
Whoops, another gross mischaracterisation of progressives.
 
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This is how you get people to go along with genocide. Use language that paints the target of the genocide as enemy combatants and it’s real easy to justify the need to kill them. You are a party to it.


Unfortunately there are a lot of Christians in this country. It would behoove us if they didn’t start drifting toward rationalizing genocide. I’d prefer Christianity to just dissolve but that isn’t in the realm of reality so I’m left to make sure they don’t go off the deep end.
Oh good grief. Just more histrionics from the progressive hive mind. We just can't take you guys seriously anymore.

All these progressives calling Christians dangerous etc is doing exactly what you accuse Christians of doing. And if you are upset over Christians wanting this country to uphold the laws and make claims like we want a genocide well you are painting us as very dangerous. Thats a recipe for calling for our extermination. If we are are to take you seriously that is.
 
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Oh, OK, I'm not clear on what your beliefs are. It seems you think people going through the port of entry get a harder time.

Are you aware that if you cross not at a port of entry and you get caught, you can be charged with illegal entry, even if you are claiming asylum?
You should be. It’s not happening. over 250,000 came in one month. How many arrests were there?
 
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In a sense it is if they are coming here illegally. Not everyone coming across the boarder is a refugee or in genuine need of asylum. The progressives wish to paint that picture but it's not true. It doesn't matter if they are women, children or men. In fact it is mostly men that are coming and not women and children. If they are coming in swarms like they are, I can see why invasion might be used. It may be a peaceful one but and large, they are not shooting their way across, but they are coming and taking our money.

You have any other words to paint them as enemy combatants you’d like to use or have you finally run out?

I don't like the way Trump talks. Never have. But he is who he is. And it looks more and more like he may just be our next president. But I don't believe anyone here is calling for the mowing down of all immigrants coming across the border.

Trump did

So please, stop the rhetoric. You are just adding to the progressive ideas that Christians are evil and want people to be machine gunned to death. I'm not going to be bullied by that nonsense.


There’s a Christian calling for my death. He has ties to Republicans including dining with Trump

 
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You should be. It’s not happening. over 250,000 came in one month. How many arrests were there?
I'd be interested to know more specifics.
E.g. how do you know how many people come across illegally? Are they getting processed or not?
How many submit an Asylum claim?
How many get rejected?
How many get detained?
How many get charged for illegal entry?
 
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I'd be interested to know more specifics.
E.g. how do you know how many people come across illegally? Are they getting processed or not?
How many submit an Asylum claim?
How many get rejected?
How many get detained?
How many get charged for illegal entry?
I already posted what statistics I could find earlier in the thread
 
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I'd be interested to know more specifics.
E.g. how do you know how many people come across illegally? Are they getting processed or not?
How many submit an Asylum claim?
How many get rejected?
How many get detained?
How many get charged for illegal entry?
 
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It's very difficult to take any report from James Comer seriously. The guy has been embarrasingly unproffessional and dishonest in his efforts to tie Joe Biden to any corruption in the impeachment investigation that he has been leading. He has willingly misrepresented data, misrepresented close door testimony. They guy isn't even trying to be honest. He is a partisan hack.
 
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It's very difficult to take any report from James Comer seriously. The guy has been embarrasingly unproffessional and dishonest in his efforts to tie Joe Biden to any corruption in the impeachment investigation that he has been leading. He has willingly misrepresented data, misrepresented close door testimony. They guy isn't even trying to be honest. He is a partisan hack.

Not to mention that a least a couple of things he claims is "so suspicious" that the "Biden family" did (shell companies and giving large loans to family members) are things he has done himself. I suppose this means that Comer needs to be investigated, too, by Comer's own standards?
 
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Not to mention that a least a couple of things he claims is "so suspicious" that the "Biden family" did (shell companies and giving large loans to family members) are things he has done himself. I suppose this means that Comer needs to be investigated, too, by Comer's own standards?
They don't care, their voters don't care. They all know, no matter how outlandish their claims, no matter how easily disproved, no matter how hypocrytical (a.k.a. Jim Jorden complaining about Hunter defying a House subpoena, or the Republicans rushing in Supreme Court confirmation of Amy Barret). They will say it, the voters will believe it, they all will parrot it through out the internet, on forums just like this. They will say it on TV, their right wing opinion shows will parrot it, their radio shows will parrot it, neighbors will be speaking it on the street. Does not matter one iota that none of it is true.
 
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They don't care, their voters don't care. They all know, no matter how outlandish their claims, no matter how easily disproved, no matter how hypocrytical (a.k.a. Jim Jorden complaining about Hunter defying a House subpoena, or the Republicans rushing in Supreme Court confirmation of Amy Barret). They will say it, the voters will believe it, they all will parrot it through out the internet, on forums just like this. They will say it on TV, their right wing opinion shows will parrot it, their radio shows will parrot it, neighbors will be speaking it on the street. Does not matter one iota that none of it is true.
You post this but you’re not a Biden supporter and not liberal?
 
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