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Trump: "release the J6 hostages"

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Trump and his enablers are describing those imprisoned for their January 6th activities as "hostages".

On Saturday’s third anniversary of the riot, Trump called on President Joe Biden to “release the J6 hostages.”

Rep. Elise Stefanik, [#3 in the House] R-N.Y., then parroted Trump during an interview Sunday on “Meet the Press.”



These individiuals are not hostages. As of today, the only prominent Republican to push back on this language is Liz Cheney:

In an interview with Cheney, CBS News “Face the Nation” anchor Margaret Brennan noted how Stefanik’s remarks echo the word Trump used to refer to the prisoners, to which Cheney said, “That’s why she’s using it.”

“It’s outrageous and it’s disgusting,” Cheney continued. “And if you … go and you look at what individuals have been convicted for, who are incarcerated, you’ll find it, you know, extensively, these are people who were involved in violence against police officers in the assault on the Capitol. And it is really disgraceful for Donald Trump be saying what he’s saying and then for those who [are] attempting to enable him or attempting to further their own political careers [to] repeat it.”

“It’s a disgrace, and you cannot say you are a member of a party that believes in the rule of law, you cannot say you are pro-law enforcement if you then go out and you say these people are ‘hostages,’ it’s disgraceful,” Cheney added.


...not a peep from Republican leaders.
 

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Do y'all have any clue as to how many J6 prisoners have been kept in jail without being allowed to post a reasonable bond, or any kind of bond, in order to be released from jail before being tried in a court of law?
 
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Do y'all have any clue as to how many J6 prisoners have been kept in jail without being allowed to post a reasonable bond, or any kind of bond, in order to be released from jail before being tried in a court of law?
No. Fill me in.
 
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By the way, y'all ain't helping your point of view very much at all when you quote Liz Cheney. In my opinion, if she really really is a Republican, then I was born on the planet of Mars.
I don't care if she calls herself a Republican because the vast majority of Republicans in her own state don't want her and she has extremely low approval ratings from Republicans.
 
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Do y'all have any clue as to how many J6 prisoners have been kept in jail without being allowed to post a reasonable bond, or any kind of bond, in order to be released from jail before being tried in a court of law?

The only regret I feel about this is the fact Mr Trump is not in there with them to face his own responsibility for the un-American scheme to overturn his loss. He is still using those people in jail to peddle his insidious "hostage" lies for his own "presidential" campaign.
 
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By the way, y'all ain't helping your point of view very much at all when you quote Liz Cheney. In my opinion, if she really really is a Republican, then I was born on the planet of Mars.
With which planks in the Republican platform does she disagree?
I don't care if she calls herself a Republican because the vast majority of Republicans in her own state don't want her and she has extremely low approval ratings from Republicans.
On which issues do they disagree with her?
 
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Off the top of my head, I remember that there were about a dozen, perhaps more, of them.

At its peak, it was a few dozen, but "reasonable bail" isn't how the federal bail system works. The judge determines whether the defendant is to be free pre-trial, or not. A bail may be included as a guarentee, but it is not a general system of setting cash/bond bail based on the offense and seeing who can pay.
 
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Do y'all have any clue as to how many J6 prisoners have been kept in jail without being allowed to post a reasonable bond, or any kind of bond, in order to be released from jail before being tried in a court of law?

Points for referring to them as J6 prisoners.
 
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With which planks in the Republican platform does she disagree?

On which issues do they disagree with her?
I cannot think of more than a couple of issues where she agrees with the majority of Republicans.
 
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At its peak, it was a few dozen, but "reasonable bail" isn't how the federal bail system works. The judge determines whether the defendant is to be free pre-trial, or not. A bail may be included as a guarentee, but it is not a general system of setting cash/bond bail based on the offense and seeing who can pay.
Whereas rioters from the summer of 2020 were able to post bail before going to trial.... but how many of those rioters are now in prison?
 
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I cannot think of more than a couple of issues where she agrees with the majority of Republicans.

...she voted with Pres Trump something like 92% of the time.

But yes, you're right. The majority of Republicans have abandoned the party that once stood for the Constitution and the peaceful transfer of power. In fact now, the leading cadidate refers to J6 prisoners as "hostages" and none of them have anything to say.
 
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Whereas rioters from the summer of 2020 were able to post bail before going to trial....
"Summer 2020" rioters were covered by state laws primarily and subject to their rules.
but how many of those rioters are now in prison?
The summer 2020 rioters? I have no idea. They are not the subject of this thread, nor do I care.
 
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"Summer 2020" rioters were covered by state laws primarily and subject to their rules.

The summer 2020 rioters? I have no idea. They are not the subject of this thread, nor do I care.
I'm not surprised that you don't care.
 
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...she voted with Pres Trump something like 92% of the time.
Yet Liz could not even win the primary for re-election in Wyoming.
 
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Off the top of my head, I remember that there were about a dozen, perhaps more, of them.
I can't see the top of you head. Make a claim and you have a requirement to back it up rather than leave it hanging.
 
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