Does Christ Stand Behind US Gov't?

[rocknanchor]

Since Christ conquered the 'cosmic powers' that plagued man, is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Since Christ conquered the 'cosmic powers' that plagued man, is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

Jesus Christ of Nazareth stands behind truth and love simultaneously.
Blessings.

 

[Desk trauma]

Since Christ conquered the 'cosmic powers' that plagued man, is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

No.

 

[JustOneWay]

I am trying to understand what this has to do with American politics, unless the discussion is about how one side of the American political scene has tried to claim Jesus for their side.

 

[Paulos23]

Since Christ conquered the 'cosmic powers' that plagued man, is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

No. We should return to the original motto: "Out of many, one".

 

[essentialsaltes]

is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

No. Supreme Court justices have determined that such apparent references to a deity are "ceremonial deism" and do not contain any religious content.

...I would suggest that such practices as the designation of "In God We Trust" as our national motto, or the references to God contained in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag can best be understood, in Dean Rostow's apt phrase, as a form a "ceremonial deism," protected from Establishment Clause scrutiny chiefly because they have lost through rote repetition any significant religious content.

Justice Brennan

Or from the recently late Justice O'Connor:

This category of "ceremonial deism" most clearly encompasses such things as the national motto ("In God We Trust"), religious references in traditional patriotic songs such as "The Star-Spangled Banner", and the words with which the Marshal of this Court opens each of its sessions ("God save the United States and this honorable Court"). These references are not minor trespasses upon the Establishment Clause to which I turn a blind eye. Instead, their history, character, and context prevent them from being constitutional violations at all.

 

[Sif]

Jesus is not and was never a citizen of The United States of America. He was a subject of the Roman Empire (AKA Senatus Populusque Romanus - SPQR).

 

[JustOneWay]

No. Supreme Court justices have determined that such apparent references to a deity are "ceremonial deism" and do not contain any religious content.

...I would suggest that such practices as the designation of "In God We Trust" as our national motto, or the references to God contained in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag can best be understood, in Dean Rostow's apt phrase, as a form a "ceremonial deism," protected from Establishment Clause scrutiny chiefly because they have lost through rote repetition any significant religious content.

Justice Brennan

Or from the recently late Justice O'Connor:

This category of "ceremonial deism" most clearly encompasses such things as the national motto ("In God We Trust"), religious references in traditional patriotic songs such as "The Star-Spangled Banner", and the words with which the Marshal of this Court opens each of its sessions ("God save the United States and this honorable Court"). These references are not minor trespasses upon the Establishment Clause to which I turn a blind eye. Instead, their history, character, and context prevent them from being constitutional violations at all.

And now we will see this changed with the conservative SC. probably

 

[wing2000]

Since Christ conquered the 'cosmic powers' that plagued man, is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

“My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”

 

[Bobber]

Since Christ conquered the 'cosmic powers' that plagued man, is there some truth to that same support being behind "In God We Trust"?

Using the slogan is only as good as to whether people do it or not.

 

[wing2000]

Using the slogan is only as good as to whether people do it or not.

If American Christians really trusted Jesus Christ, they would not need a slogan.

 

[Tuur]

There seems to be much arguing about whether Christ stands with the US, but none on whether the US stands with Christ.

 

[JustOneWay]

There seems to be much arguing about whether Christ stands with the US, but none on whether the US stands with Christ.

The country is make of of individuals, and many of those individuals do not believe in Jesus or Christianity. It is absurd to think everybody in the country would stand with Jesus in order for the claim "the US stands with Christ" to be valid. Sure, people can say that the US stands with Christ, but it is not true. We are not the Borg with a collective mind to agree in unison on anything.

 

[timothyu]

Well, they can't trust government so they might as well give God a chance.

 

[Pommer]

The country is make of of individuals, and many of those individuals do not believe in Jesus or Christianity. It is absurd to think everybody in the country would stand with Jesus in order for the claim "the US stands with Christ" to be valid. Sure, people can say that the US stands with Christ, but it is not true. We are not the Borg with a collective mind to agree in unison on anything.

Some folks keep trying to make our Nation into a “Heaven-lite” version so that they won’t have too much of a transition when they go to their Eternal glory, (I guess).

“The world” is supposed to be “enemy territory“ and Christians are supposed to “endure” us heathen until they get their “reward” for having done so.

 

[timothyu]

Somehow the B Belt started seeing themselves as the new chosen people.

 

[rocknanchor]

I am trying to understand what this has to do with American politics, unless the discussion is about how one side of the American political scene has tried to claim Jesus for their side.

political /pə-lĭt′ĭ-kəl/

adjective​

1. Of, relating to, or dealing with the structure or affairs of government, politics, or the state.
   "a political system."
2. Relating to, involving, or characteristic of political parties or politicians.
   "a political campaign."
3. Interested or active in politics.
   "I'm not a very political person."

In regards to this subject, there's a generous time for deliberation, then there's a time for taking stock.

 

[rocknanchor]

Jesus is not and was never a citizen of The United States of America. He was a subject of the Roman Empire (AKA Senatus Populusque Romanus - SPQR.

He might as well be. He is the oldest living American Centenarian who was there at her founding, which for those founders, was “touched with the feeling of [their] infirmities”(Heb 4:15).

 

[JustOneWay]

political /pə-lĭt′ĭ-kəl/

adjective​

1. Of, relating to, or dealing with the structure or affairs of government, politics, or the state.
   "a political system."
2. Relating to, involving, or characteristic of political parties or politicians.
   "a political campaign."
3. Interested or active in politics.
   "I'm not a very political person."

In regards to this subject, there's a generous time for deliberation, then there's a time for taking stock.

I understand what the definition of political is. The question you failed to answer is how it applies to Jesus standing or not standing behind the US government. The only available evidence is the Bible, and sadly the Bible never mentions The United States government - regardless of whoever decides to toss out a few Biblical lines saying that feel it means the United States government.

This is not a political discussion, it is a Biblical and spiritual one.

In God we trust is a line made by man to show reverence to God, and not anything to do with God standing behind the US government.

 

[JustOneWay]

He might as well be. He is the oldest living American Centenarian who was there at her founding, which for those founders, was “touched with the feeling of [their] infirmities”(Heb 4:15).

He would need a required green card, since he was not born or reborn here.