Without mentioning Trump or Democracy, why do you support Joe Biden for President.

[The Barbarian]

After Calling Joe Biden Senile, Republicans Complain He Outsmarted Them

Everyone knows he wears the mantle but doesn't drive the train.

It was Biden who negotiated with the republicans. If they were dumb enough to let him snocker them, isn't that on them?

Granted some of those guys aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, but Biden clearly outclassed them.

 

[Postvieww]

It was Biden who negotiated with the republicans.

With note cards in hand. I'm impressed.

 

[PloverWing]

Really? A trained Doctor can observe a problem that is obvious.

Even medically untrained Democrats can see a problem.

Okay, thanks. I gather, then, that the doctor who offered his opinion had not personally examined the president.

 

[Merrill]

Yes. The red states tend to be poor because they tend to be poorly governed. It's not surprising that they are also more criminal than blue states.

An increase in apprehensions would demonstrate that the border is less open than it was previously. Do you know what "apprehension" means?


Actually, they are red states, and they have higher crime rates than similar blue states. The Dakotas are nine and ten in the list of states with the most violent crime.

Indiana, at 28th most violent, is one of the less criminal red states.

List of U.S. states and territories by violent crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As you learned, eight of the ten most violent states are red states, and eight of the ten least violent states are blue states. For reasons that are obvious.


Wealthy people are moving to red states precisely because the more regressive tax systems there favor the wealthy. However, that tends to bring other people there as well, which is why Texas is getting progressively bluer. (pun intended).

"An increase in apprehensions would demonstrate that the border is less open than it was previously. Do you know what "apprehension" means?"

what? When did I say those 2.4 million people who crossed the border were apprehended and deported? Who said that?

Apprehension doesn't mean deportation, and not all these people were apprehended

According to the Federation of American Immigration Reform:

• Since President Biden took office, around 5.5 million illegal aliens have crossed our borders—a crisis of epic proportions.
  • FAIR's figure contains the 4.4 million nationwide total reported by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) – which includes around 3.9 million at our southwest border – as well as approximately 1.1 million "gotaways" who have entered the country undetected per agency sources.
  • Based on publicly available CBP data, court filings, and "gotaways," FAIR estimates that 2.4 million were either released by federal authorities or entered the country's interior undetected."

Looking at the CBP data myself, they claim to have deported around 300k people in the last year, but that includes people already living here and charged with crimes, etc. And even including those deportations, we have seen more illegals enter the country in the last three years than in any time in US history

But this is all Democrat strategy. Open the borders, let people come in, register them as Democrats, give them some welfare, and get more votes. It's called population replacement.

And when crime levels go up in border states because of this federal policy, we have Democrats blaming GOP governors and saying those states are "mismanaged"

Your party wants to turn the country into Venezuela. People are pushing back

 

[Postvieww]

Okay, thanks. I gather, then, that the doctor who offered his opinion had not personally examined the president.

Nor did the Democrats that are going to dump him. So you really do not see a problem?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Joe Biden is directly responsible for much of this record inflation. The unnecessary, 400 billion "American Rescue Plan" paid people not to work, and the 900 billion dollar "Inflation Reduction Act" (oh the irony), contributing to the inflation. Bad energy policy, mismanaged supply lines, and a "guns and butter" foreign policy also have contributed to this inflation.

Please explain how Biden's American Rescue Plan triggered inflation, but Trump's two similar stimulus measures didn't.

Please explain how the Inflation Reduction Act has contributed to inflation even though we're only 1.5 years into its 10-year-long execution and inflation has dropped nearly every month since it was signed.

This baloney narrative about Biden decreasing the deficit by 1.7 trillion is just that. Why? Because the record deficit at the end of 2020 was due to the entire US economy, and much of the world economy, being totally shutdown by COVID-19. Even after the lockdown, many businesses remained closed or half-staffed, and tax revenues plummeted. A crashing stock market led to capital gains tax revenues imploding.

Ah okay, so Biden doesn't get to take credit for reducing the deficits that resulted from the COVID shutdown, but he does have to take the blame for the inflation that stemmed from the disruptions that shutdown caused in the market? Is that about right?

Try looking at cities.

Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities in the United States (2025)

In this article, we will explore the top 10 most dangerous cities in America and the factors that contribute to their danger levels.

www.noradarealestate.com

Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities in America

• 1. Detroit, Michigan
• 2. Baltimore, Maryland
• 3. St. Louis, Missouri
• 4. Oakland, California
• 5. Memphis, Tennessee
• 6. Birmingham, Alabama
• 7. Cleveland, Ohio
• 8. New Orleans, Louisiana
• 9. Atlanta, Georgia
• 10. Chicago, Illinois

Detroit: Democrat Mayor
Baltimore: Democrat Mayor
St Louis: Democrat Mayor
Oakland: Democrat Mayor
Memphis: Democrat Mayor
Birmingham: Democrat Mayor

Cleveland: Nonpartisan Worked for Obama as Senator, Ran against 6 other Nonpartisans While Bibb won office in a nonpartisan election, media outlets reported that he is affiliated with the Democratic Party.[1][2

New Orleans: Democrat Mayor
Atlanta: Democrat Mayor
Chicago: Democrat Mayor

Do we see a pattern here? Talk about poorly governed!

Yeah, and I could look at the states in the Deep South and show that Republicans are terrible at running things, too.

Your list tells you nothing if you don't also look at the good side. Are the safe cities run by Republicans? No, they're not. Nearly all cities, good and bad, dangerous and safe, are run by Democrats. A city like Boston, for example, smokes red states on virtually every metric (except housing affordability). Why don't we use that as our benchmark?

 

[The Barbarian]

Apprehension doesn't mean deportation, and not all these people were apprehended

I'm just pointing out that an increase in apprehensions is a sign that the border patrol is doing what they are supposed to do.

According to the Federation of American Immigration Reform:

Looking at the CBP data myself, they claim to have deported around 300k people in the last year, but that includes people already living here and charged with crimes, etc.

That started with Obama. He ordered INS to focus on rounding up and deporting those with criminal offenses. Good idea. Trump dropped the ball on that one, but Biden is now focusing on getting criminal aliens out.

But this is all Democrat strategy. Open the borders, let people come in, register them as Democrats, give them some welfare, and get more votes.

First, they come here to work.
Key findings about U.S. immigrants

Second, they can't register unless they are citizens.

Did 3 million undocumented immigrants vote in 2016?

Were there 3 million illegal votes from undocumented immigrants in this year’s presidential election? Well, that’s what

www.politifact.com

Third, most welfare is closed to them, even though most of them pay taxes to support welfare programs:

Immigrants often can’t access assistance programs

Ahead of the tax filing season, a Facebook post sarcastically told taxpayers to file on time because immigrants illegall

www.politifact.com

And when crime levels go up in border states because of this federal policy

Turns out, illegal aliens are less likely to commit crimes while in the U.S. than are native-born Americans. It's no accident that El Paso has the highest percentage of illegal aliens and an extremely low violent crime rate among large cities.

Undocumented immigrants far less likely to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens ​

December 7, 2020 By Chris Barncard
Crime rates among undocumented immigrants are just a fraction of those of their U.S.-born neighbors, according to a first-of-its-kind analysis of Texas arrest and conviction records.

Undocumented immigrants far less likely to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens

Crime rates among undocumented immigrants are just a fraction of those of their U.S.-born neighbors, according to a first-of-its-kind analysis of Texas arrest and conviction records.

news.wisc.edu

Red states are more violent than blue states for the obvious reasons. It's because of the governance and culture in those states. The number of illegal aliens is not one of the reasons. You see what comes of trusting those people? You believed all those stories, but none of them are true, are they?

 

[The Barbarian]

It was Biden who negotiated with the republicans.

With note cards in hand.

I think a yellow pad with his notes. But I'd be pretty unhappy with a president who didn't go into negotiations like that without his notes. It's complicated and difficult. The key is that Biden was better at understanding it than McCarthy, who was clearly out-negotiated by the president. Even people from McCarthy's own party agreed that Biden outsmarted him.

 

[probinson]

After Calling Joe Biden Senile, Republicans Complain He Outsmarted Them

A headline from the far-left Huffington Post is hardly what anyone would call an objective source, even when you post it in large red letters as if to imply some type of authority.

 

[probinson]

I guess we could settle that by having a bike race.

Settle what? I posted a video showing Biden stumbling not once, not twice, but THREE times while climbing the stairs to board Air Force One. I can see why you'd want to ignore that as it flys in the face of your contention (and reality) that Biden is in top physical shape. But alas, there it is for all to see.

 

[Always in His Presence]

What is the topic of this thread again?

I guess no one can...

 

[PloverWing]

Nor did the Democrats that are going to dump him. So you really do not see a problem?

Not a serious problem, no. I've disagreed with some of his actions and policies over the years, but he's fine.

It's true that he is 81, and that's pretty old. I suggest that (given that all humans are mortal) anyone who votes for him should make sure that they are comfortable with the possibility of President Harris. But I do not see any current health problems that are interfering with his ability to govern.

 

[PloverWing]

What is the topic of this thread again?

I guess no one can...

I have carefully avoided the mention of any candidates from any other parties in this thread.

 

[Truth7t7]

A legal finding by a court. It might be appealed, but so far, it's the legal finding. Trump engaged in an insurrection against the United States. The judge pointed out that the amendment's restriction on insurrectionists did not include the office of president. Ah, turns out Trump is appealing the decision:

Trump appeals Colorado ruling that said he engaged in January 6 insurrection​

Trump appeals Colorado ruling that said he engaged in January 6 insurrection

However, judge decided former president could not be disqualified from the presidential ballot under the 14th amendment clause

www.theguardian.com

Once again, your denial is false.

And once again, it was the judges biased liberal opinion, and the court she ruled in doesn't have jurisdiction over section three and the word "Insurrection" as it applies to Donald J. Trump

The case is nothing more than further liberal harassment, in political judicial activism

Guardian Article Quote:

“The district court nonetheless applied section three to President Trump, finding that he ‘engaged’ in an ‘insurrection’. Should these findings be vacated because the district court self-admittedly lacked jurisdiction to apply section three to President Trump?”

 

[FenderTL5]

What is the topic of this thread again?

I guess no one can...

I did.

 

[The Barbarian]

And once again, it was the judges biased liberal opinion

A judge's decision. According to the law. I get that many of Trump's people don't respect the law. That's what the insurrection was about in the first place.

court she ruled in doesn't have jurisdiction over section three and the word "Insurrection" as it applies to Donald J. Trump

She could rule that he was part of the insurrection (which many of his followers admitted in court) and she could rule if he was qualified to be on the ballot in Colorado.

 

[The Barbarian]

Settle what? I posted a video showing Biden stumbling not once, not twice, but THREE times while climbing the stairs to board Air Force One. I can see why you'd want to ignore that as it flys in the face of your contention (and reality) that Biden is in top physical shape.

I see you're back to making up opinions and insisting others believe them. Bad habit, that. Few people Biden's age are in top physical shape. I merely pointed out the obvious; Biden is in much better physical shape than Donald Trump;

...alas, there it is for all to see.

Yep.

 

[The Barbarian]

After Calling Joe Biden Senile, Republicans Complain He Outsmarted Them

A headline from the far-left Huffington Post is hardly what anyone would call an objective source, even when you post it in large red letters as if to imply some type of authority.

Well, let's take a look....
But as of Wednesday, default seemed unlikely, and the outlines of the deal appeared favorable to Democrats.
Asked if Biden had gotten the better of McCarthy, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), replied, “Yeah, I think that’s a fair assumption.”

I suppose you could claim that the quotes were faked. Would you like to do that? Maybe it's time for you to face the same reality. Biden outsmarted the republicans rather easily.

 

[probinson]

I see you're back to making up opinions and insisting others believe them.

Nope. It's an undeniable fact that Biden stumbled thrice while simply walking up the stairs. Here, I'll post it again in case you missed it the first time.

 

[probinson]

After Calling Joe Biden Senile, Republicans Complain He Outsmarted Them


Well, let's take a look....
But as of Wednesday, default seemed unlikely, and the outlines of the deal appeared favorable to Democrats.
Asked if Biden had gotten the better of McCarthy, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), replied, “Yeah, I think that’s a fair assumption.”

I suppose you could claim that the quotes were faked. Would you like to do that? Maybe it's time for you to face the same reality. Biden outsmarted the republicans rather easily.

Again, HuffPot is a far-left source, and their headlines are not the least bit objective nor authoritative, no matter how many times you post them.

For example, your chosen headline states that "Republicans complain [Biden] outsmarted them", but the text that you've chosen from the article doesn't even support that statement.

Further, in the article (if you actually read it instead of just the headline), it states the following:

Even McCarthy conceded that he had been impressed with Biden’s negotiating team during the talks, calling them “very professional, very smart” and “very tough at the same time.”​

​

But the speaker has denied that he was outsmarted, touting the bill’s reductions to government spending and stricter “work requirements” for federal food benefits that Democrats opposed. The legislation would reduce the deficit by $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years, in large part due to cuts to non-defense programs, according to the Congressional Budget Office.​

​

“How were we outsmarted? The largest cut in the history of Congress. The biggest ability to pull money back,” McCarthy told ABC News on Tuesday. “We’ve got work requirements for welfare where the Democrats said was a red line.”​

As the article makes clear, contrary to its sensationalist headline, not all Republicans agree that they were "outsmarted". Of course, the Uber-liberal HuffPo is going to report it that way, but not even their own article supports what their headline says.