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Here is a Christian man who gets it.So celibacy and chastity are a perversion? St. Paul was a pervert because he was unmarried, and he advocated perversion when he offered as advice for the Faithful to remain unmarried. Got it.
Which is why the biblical patriarchs and kings famously were monogamous. Solomon and his 300 wives and 700 concubines was a shining example of monogamy.
I think you should be more honest with yourself, that you are defending any biblical principle or moral, you just don't like queer people.
I'm a cis straight male. I've never had any serious doubts about who or what I am. But as far as my masculinity and heterosexuality is concerned, back in the late 90's and throughout the early-mid 2000s I had friends who constantly told me I wasn't a "real man" because I was in touch with my emotions and didn't sleep around. I didn't pursue women just to "get laid", I wanted a serious, long term relationship. And when romance wasn't on the table, I could maintain long term platonic friendships with women. As a result I was bombarded with being called "gay" and had the F-slur thrown at me frequently.
I didn't meet their expectations of what a "man" should be. I was raised with certain values about how to treat people, I looked at the Scriptures--to Christ--about how I should treat others, and to be introspective about my intentions, to "hold every thought captive" as St. Paul says. That my feelings and thoughts might betray me, and to tread carefully. I was never into sports, I was never athletic. I was into dinosaurs and video games as a child. I know nothing about cars, or how to fix broken pipes in my house. I don't relate with "macho" things very well.
As such while I've always had a clear view of what being a man meant for me, it has clashed consistently with what "being a man" means in the minds of many. As such, I've had my masculinity and manhood, my straight sexual orientation challenged and denied throughout much of my life.
These days, that's less of an issue. Largely because those friends, the ones I still call friends anyway, have matured. Others, well they aren't really my friends anymore. And it is bad enough when I faced this kind of nonsense from those outside of the Church, but it was worse when I faced this nonsense from within the Church.
Here, in the Church, we are supposed to regard Christ as King and Lord; and His way as the way above all other ways.
Perhaps you've read this and haven't seen my point in saying this entirely. So let's be clear: My gender and identity were frequently challenged and ridiculed because I didn't conform to what some people believed being "a straight man" entailed. I couldn't "be a man" if I wasn't objectifying women and solely interested in sexual conquests. I wasn't "straight" if I had meaningful friendships with women, or if I talked about my feelings. Others wanted to project their view of gender onto me. I'm a cis-male, my biological sex is male, and I identify as a man. I'm straight, I am romantically and sexually attracted to women. And even still I didn't meet certain expectations of my peers, I didn't conform to certain societal expectations. I didn't conform, and so I was attacked, ridiculed, belittled.
I identified as a man, but I was being told I wasn't one. My biological sex (male) wasn't being called into question. My gender, my male-ness, was.
-CryptoLutheran
The fact is that even a LOT of Christians have incredibly antiquated and VERY unhealthy ideas of what it means to "be a man". Strange that they want to protect something that can be very toxic even though they are all our very own inventions. I am ALMOST exactly like you Crypto. I tend to not have all the "machismo" characteristics of being a man.
And I have the sneaking suspicion that the deeper into a socialized gender construct, the harder it is for people to accept alternate genders or even the idea that gender is nonbinary.
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