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He was specifically speaking to His disciples, and they were already saved when He spake that to them. And all for whom Christ lived and died for, in Him, they are righteous and keep all commandments.
Well, let's extend your logic - a couple of verses later (v.17), when Jesus said
If they were already saved, why did Jesus say to them, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" (John 14:25)?
Yes they were already saved, clean, Justified Jn 13:10-11
If they are already saved and clean, why did Jesus tell them to keep his commandments? (John 14:15)
So you're saying, if you're not doing works, that means you aren't saved.
Does a people believe In order to understand the words written in the Bible you must know Greek or be educated? I am neither but I am taught by the Father. Those who hold these views you must be educated have missed the mark. My Father taught the first Christians through his Holy Spirit. They did not nor for a long time have bibles to read. They walked in the comfort of the Holy Spirit. In my Father’s love. Receiving your trust through the Holy Spirit for they are the Fruits of the Holy Spirit and are gifts given to us.
Unfortunately, most people who argue from a Greek dictionary to make some theological point know next to nothing about Greek ... they"re usually bumbling, uneducated amateurs who are likely to interpret a Greek dictionary as poorly as they interpret the Bible - the OP is a case in point.
We are MADE Righteous. We are not righteous. We can do nothing to be righteous. No law keeping can make us righteous. Jesus righteousness substitutes our sinfulness.
The sin that condemns a man is unbelief. Which was told to us by the Father. What people don’t realize is that what Christ spoke were the words of the Father.
Not so fast. Christ died for all people. Romans 5:18 which precedes Romans 5:19 indicates that the many in Romans 5:19 is all people.
I would argue that the people Christ died for shall be made righteous/justified Rom 5:19
You assume that "the many" in Romans 5:19 is a subset of humanity, as if Christ only died for some. Romans 5:19 reiterates Romans 5:18 in poetic fashion as often seen in Proverbs. That is why I pointed you to Romans 5:18, which shows "the many" of Romans 5:19 is in fact the same as the "all people" in Romans 5:18.
Not all people are justified even though Christ made atonement for all people. The atonement (and its benefit of justification) is received conditionally as I explained in the last paragraph of Post 1170.
1Peter 1:14-17 instructs believers to be "holy [ie, righteous] yourselves in all your conduct" and to "conduct yourselves with fear", because God will judge "each one impartially according to his deeds" on Judgement Day. In other words, our righteous deeds having a bearing on our salvation. Please explain.
If Jesus makes us righteous, why must we do works by keeping his commandments? (John 14:15)
Paul warns believers in Gal 5:19-21 and 1Cor 6:9-11 that their sins can result in them ending up in hell. Please explain.
Really? The verse before that says the very opposite: "Thou meetest him that joyfully works righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways." (Isaiah 64:5)
1John 2:3-4 says God will not accept us if we disobey his commandments:
... which is consistent with other NT verses, such as ...
The many in Rom 5:19 and the All in Rom 5:18 are one and the same, and the many that are made righteous and the all who received Justification of life are one and the same, so therefore anyone who isnt Justified, they are excluded.
Yes the many in Romans 5:19 are same "all people" in Romans 5:18 and we all know what "all people" means. Thus Christ's righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. But we both don't agree that all people are justified. So how do we get around that impasse?
My understanding (for what it's worth) is that the Cross per se doesn't save anyone - rather, the sacrifice of Jesus makes it possible for everyone to be saved.
When I was in my twenties, I heard people in our denomination talking about how good things from God (like salvation) are freely provided, but only received by our faith. It took me a while to rectify that in my mind as the natural way of thinking about God's gifts is that they either are or are not received based solely upon God's discretion.
The "all people" is to mean that no group or class or nation is categorically excluded. Categorical inclusion or exclusion was how people always thought back then. There was no concept of universal human equality.
The "gift" of salvation isn't like a gift as our culture normally thinks of a gift. We think of giving or receiving a gift as unconditional - however, the gift of salvation is conditional (James 2:24, 1Cor 6:11). Salvation is nevertheless a gift, in the sense that it's undeserved and cannot possibly be gained through our own efforts.
