Should Hamas Surrender?

[Ana the Ist]

So what do you call a religion-based class system?

If you want to call it "religious" apartheid....be my guest.

If this was India, the Palestinians would be the "untouchables."

Their inability to travel without going through checkpoints (or at all) seems similar to the yellow star Jews had to wear in Nazi Germany.

BTW, apartheid by any other name is just as evil.

Well let's take a look at religious tolerance in Palestine.

Freedom of religion in the State of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The short version is "you had better be Muslim or you're a second class citizen...if you're lucky". Many religions can't even marry in Palestine.

So if you want to call Palestine a state of religious apartheid....I guess you can? Seems sort of mean though to kick them for cultural practices on their way out of existence.

 

[Fantine]

The oppressor in this case us Israel.
The oppressed is Palestine.

 

[honey badger]

That's interesting. If you're correct...yeah, that could pose problems for Israel.



Out in the open?

Israel has vowed in the past that they will not allow any large scale destruction of their people again. If Iran launches...they almost certainly will be nuked. If Pakistan has vowed to retaliate should this happen....they may get nuked along with Iran.




I don't think Iran would risk becoming Iraq. US carrier groups are far from "sitting ducks".



I think it's going to be an extended bombing campaign and whomever is left to fight in Palestine will be swept aside with gusto once troops come pouring in.

But time will tell....so there's not much point in speculation.



That seems to be the popular position.

I support Israel unequivocally. I think it was ultimately a mistake to cede conquered territory back to the Palestinians and even they would have benefited from resettling in one of their foreign neighbor countries.

a large part of the Israeli army is out on full display ... as in their tanks and support vehicles plus their artilery are all camped around Gaza ... not very wise even with the support of the US navy ... understanding Hezbollah have over 10.000 rockets 4000 of which are extremely accurate ... these are not the same rockets Hamas uses which are small slow home made projectiles with limited warheads ... just saying

all naval fleets are now in essence obsolite given that they can not defend against hypersonic misiles of which Aran may very well have being an ally of Russia, and even if they dont the amount of rockets they could unleash would overwhelm the defences of even their most advanced ships ....
more than half of the population of Gaza are under the age of 18 ... inocent victims who know nothing else but the prison they have been born in ... are these the enemy of Israel you seem eager to be swept aside ( murdered ) or resettled ?

it is zionism which has caused the problem and it is zionism which is the enemy of the Jewish and Palastinian people ...

 

[Lukaris]

Empty slogans define policy for some.

 

[Lukaris]

NM

 

[Landon Caeli]

a large part of the Israeli army is out on full display ... as in their tanks and support vehicles plus their artilery are all camped around Gaza ... not very wise even with the support of the US navy ... understanding Hezbollah have over 10.000 rockets 4000 of which are extremely accurate ... these are not the same rockets Hamas uses which are small slow home made projectiles with limited warheads ... just saying

all naval fleets are now in essence obsolite given that they can not defend against hypersonic misiles of which Aran may very well have being an ally of Russia, and even if they dont the amount of rockets they could unleash would overwhelm the defences of even their most advanced ships ....
more than half of the population of Gaza are under the age of 18 ... inocent victims who know nothing else but the prison they have been born in ... are these the enemy of Israel you seem eager to be swept aside ( murdered ) or resettled ?

it is zionism which has caused the problem and it is zionism which is the enemy of the Jewish and Palastinian people ...

No, it is Islam that is the problem..! Muslim majority groups always feel the need to fight against non-Muslims... 100% of the time.

Mohammed, the unholy prophet, taught his subjects the qualities of *domination*, and skipped the lessons on coexistence/ common good.

Ultimately, all Israel wants to do is replace the terrorist group Hamas with the non-terrorist group Palestinian Authority. That's all.

Israel to ‘hand control of Gaza back to Palestinian Authority’ once Hamas wiped out

Officials say the Jewish state does not want to occupy the Strip but create a ‘new security reality’ instead

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Landon Caeli]

You can support the Palestinians by urging people to abandon Hamas, and encouraging their full surrender to Israel.

...That way, the Palestinian Authority can take over Gaza, before more people die.

 

[honey badger]

No, it is Islam that is the problem..! In that Muslim majority groups always feel the need to fight against non-Muslims all the time.

Mohammed, the unholy prophet, taught his subjects the qualities of *domination*, and skipped the lessons on coexistence/ common good.

Ultimately, all Israel wants to do is replace the terrorist group Hamas with the non-terrorist group Palestinian Authority. That's all.

Israel to ‘hand control of Gaza back to Palestinian Authority’ once Hamas wiped out

Officials say the Jewish state does not want to occupy the Strip but create a ‘new security reality’ instead

www.telegraph.co.uk

oh really ... Israel was instrumental in creating Hamas so as to break up the PLO ....

 

[Landon Caeli]

oh really ... Israel was instrumental in creating Hamas so as to break up the PLO ....

And..?

Their time is up. They made the gravest of mistakes. Now they're fired.

 

[dfw69]

Hamas (violence)needs to stop on both sides especially the violence committed by the unmercifully Zionist

 

[honey badger]

And..?

Their time is up. They made the gravest of mistakes. Now they're fired.

they ! does this include the 3 million Palastinians in Jordan ?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Hamas (violence)needs to stop on both sides especially the violence committed by the unmercifully Zionist

I prefer Zionists all day long over the "radical" followers of the most unholy prophet, Mohammad, where murder, and subjugation of the "Kafir" are the primary goal.

...It seems that's what Hamas represents, being the unrepentant, cold blooded murderers that they are. Their removal represents the only solution available.

 

[Landon Caeli]

they ! does this include the 3 million Palastinians in Jordan ?

...I said Hamas. Are there 3 million Hamas in Jordan?

 

[dfw69]

More broken record ? The ones for peace without violence
will still, as they have done, do what they do to stop the violence that is spawned in Palestine hamas , the p.h. who have sworn not to allow peace.

You believe the propaganda coming from Zionist truth is Hamas is Zionism even Orthodox Jews and many of their own testify against them

 

[dfw69]

Has dfw.... posted that dfw... is following Moh.... ?

What’s moh?

 

[honey badger]

...I said Hamas. Are there 3 million Hamas in Jordan?

there are now thanks to Netanyahu ...

 

[dfw69]

More broken record ? The ones for peace without violence
will still, as they have done, do what they do to stop the violence that is spawned in Palestine hamas , the p.h. who have sworn not to allow peace.

Truth is if your on the side of Zionism your of the wrong side of Christian values and humanitarian values

 

[Landon Caeli]

Truth is if your on the side of Zionism your of the wrong side of Christian values and humanitarian values

Why? What's bad about Zionism?

 

[dfw69]

I prefer Zionists all day long over the "radical" followers of the most unholy prophet, Mohammad, where murder, and subjugation of the "Kafir" are the primary goal.

...It seems that's what Hamas represents, being the unrepentant, cold blooded murderers that they are. Their removal represents the only solution available.

You also follow propoganda coming from Zionist…truth is being told even a we type..

Don’t be on the wrong side of historic events

 

[Landon Caeli]

there are now thanks to Netanyahu ...

And does that make you happy? Because you seem to like the ones in Gaza.