Federal judge temporarily halts Tennessee's 'drag ban' law on free speech grounds

[Truth7t7]

I can give you a list of countries where people who miss those good old days can relieve them if you like.

Noting wrong with historical facts, Rome and it's moral degradationleading to its fall is a reminder written in stone

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Bradskii]

Noting wrong with historical facts...

We don't have to go into the past. There are plenty of countries right now that have laws that you will take you back to those good old days. Do you want to me to give you some examples?

 

[Servus]

Aren't you glad you live at a time where people have the freedom to express their natural sexual orientation?

Should that include children attending exotic adult nightclub venues and exotic adult entertainers in children's libraries?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Is your thread about drag queen story hour or drag queen shows in public areas?

Neither should be illegal, on First Amendment grounds.

 

[Gene2memE]

Should that include children attending exotic adult nightclub venues and exotic adult entertainers in children's libraries?

Depends what they see and the particulars of the environments. 'Exotic adult entertainers' can entirely moderate their performance based on audience. The performance at the 11pm drag show at a nightclub is not the same thing as the 11am story book reading at a library.

These are not like for like comparisons that you're making (and I hope you're aware of that).

If their guardians think children going to those places is fine, I'm not going to stop them. I may or may not think it's appropriate, developmentally speaking, but it's not my place to infringe on their right to parent their children. Also, children need to learn about sex at some point, and it's mostly social mores (many of them vestigial) rather than sound policy that dictate when that learning starts.

I think children 'attending exotic adult nightclub venues' or seeing 'exotic adult entertainers' at a library is probably less worrying and damaging overall than children attending a church where 'fire and brimstone' preaching is the norm, or attending a religious school that teaches discrimination/bigotry against certain groups.

 

[essentialsaltes]

It appears many are living in "Denial"

Adult content in Drag queen Story time and shows, while minor children are present, the vast majority are elementary school age, too many to list!

PHOTOS: Drag Queen In Skirt Exposed Crotch To Children At ‘Story Hour’ Event​

Oct 30, 2019 DailyWire.com

Would you consider that case intentional or not-intentional?

Drag Queen Storytime Under the Spotlight After X-Rated Performer Reads to Children By Tiffany Cowen -March 2, 2020

Based on the tiny photo in the article, do you see anything wrong with the story time event?

 

[Servus]

Depends what they see and the particulars of the environments. 'Exotic adult entertainers' can entirely moderate their performance based on audience. The performance at the 11pm drag show at a nightclub is not the same thing as the 11am story book reading at a library.

These are not like for like comparisons that you're making (and I hope you're aware of that).

If their guardians think children going to those places is fine, I'm not going to stop them. I may or may not think it's appropriate, developmentally speaking, but it's not my place to infringe on their right to parent their children. Also, children need to learn about sex at some point, and it's mostly social mores (many of them vestigial) rather than sound policy that dictate when that learning starts.

It's not a matter of comparisons. Drag shows are exotic adult entertainment and drag queens are exotic adult entertainers.

Why make this about you doing something about it unless you're a legislator? The most you and I can do is talk about it.
How much about sex do little kids need to know? And why do little kids need to learn about sex from drag queens and from attending exotic adult entertainment venues?

I think children 'attending exotic adult nightclub venues' or seeing 'exotic adult entertainers' at a library is probably less worrying and damaging overall than children attending a church where 'fire and brimstone' preaching is the norm, or attending a religious school that teaches discrimination/bigotry against certain groups.

Is this about rebelling? Getting back at religion by getting little kids wrapped up in sex, because the church doesn't support groups that are founded on and revolve around sex? Supporting certain discriminated groups by supporting their agenda to get little kids involved in their sexuality? That's the progressive thing to do?

 

[Servus]

Neither should be illegal, on First Amendment grounds.

So not wanting children to be exposed to exotic adult entertainment violates the first amendment?

 

[Truth7t7]

We don't have to go into the past. There are plenty of countries right now that have laws that you will take you back to those good old days. Do you want to me to give you some examples?

Many aspects of history are not worth repeating, do you want me to give some examples?

Big Smiles!

 

[Truth7t7]

Would you consider that case intentional or not-intentional?


Based on the tiny photo in the article, do you see anything wrong with the story time event?

I stand with those who wrote the articles

"Leave innocent kids alone concerning sexuality", they need baseball, hop scotch, tether ball, kick ball, and to worry about getting to the ice cream truck when it sounds in the neighborhood

 

[Gene2memE]

It's not a matter of comparisons. Drag shows are exotic adult entertainment and drag queens are exotic adult entertainers.

Drag shows CAN be, and drag queens/kings can be. But, drag is still drag even if it doesn't include an "exotic adult" aspect.

And a drag show is not the same thing as a drag queen reading a story to children. Where did you get this bizarre notion that drag queen story hour necessarily includes some kind of adult cabaret performance??

Why make this about you doing something about it unless you're a legislator? The most you and I can do is talk about it.

Because that's what this topic is about - legislators attempting to ban drag.

How much about sex do little kids need to know? And why do little kids need to learn about sex from drag queens and from attending exotic adult entertainment venues?

You just said "children" before, now it's "little kids". Appealing to emotion much?

I didn't say that kids "need to learn about sex from drag queens and from attending exotic adult entertainment venues?" I said that children need to learn about sex at some point, and the policy on when to do so is dictated by outdated standards based on long surpassed moral standards.

Is this about rebelling? Getting back at religion by getting little kids wrapped up in sex, because the church doesn't support groups that are founded on and revolve around sex? Supporting certain discriminated groups by supporting their agenda to get little kids involved in their sexuality? That's the progressive thing to do?

Nothing about drag queen story hour is about "getting back at religion" or "getting little kids wrapped up in sex" or an agenda to "get little kids involved in their sexuality".

I think the fact that you don't understand speaks volumes. It's also probably why initiatives like drag queen story hour should be expanded rather than curtailed.

 

[Truth7t7]

Drag shows CAN be, and drag queens/kings can be. But, drag is still drag even if it doesn't include an "exotic adult" aspect.

And a drag show is not the same thing as a drag queen reading a story to children. Where did you get this bizarre notion that drag queen story hour necessarily includes some kind of adult cabaret performance??



Because that's what this topic is about - legislators attempting to ban drag.



You just said "children" before, now it's "little kids". Appealing to emotion much?

I didn't say that kids "need to learn about sex from drag queens and from attending exotic adult entertainment venues?" I said that children need to learn about sex at some point, and the policy on when to do so is dictated by outdated standards based on long surpassed moral standards.



Nothing about drag queen story hour is about "getting back at religion" or "getting little kids wrapped up in sex" or an agenda to "get little kids involved in their sexuality".

I think the fact that you don't understand speaks volumes. It's also probably why initiatives like drag queen story hour should be expanded rather than curtailed.

Drag queen Story is surrounded by "Sexuality"

Elementary school kinds need to worry about school grades, recess play time, and getting to the ice cream truck whrn it's in the neighborhood

Leave the kids alone concerning sexuality, simple and plain

 

[Bradskii]

Many aspects of history are not worth repeating, do you want me to give some examples?

We aren't talking history. We're talking the here and now. If you like places that don't allow women to dress as they'd like at the beach or places that restrict homosexuality then there's quite a few available to visit.

And if you want to end your posts with a slightly sarcastic, yet light hearted comment, then try to develop your own rather than copying those from the post to which you are replying. It shows a lack of imagination.

 

[Servus]

Drag shows CAN be, and drag queens/kings can be. But, drag is still drag even if it doesn't include an "exotic adult" aspect.

That's what it's always been. It's burlesque. It's adult entertainment.

And a drag show is not the same thing as a drag queen reading a story to children. Where did you get this bizarre notion that drag queen story hour necessarily includes some kind of adult cabaret performance??

It's kids flocking around exotic adult entertainers in their exotic adult entertainment

You just said "children" before, now it's "little kids". Appealing to emotion much?

Apparently it makes you uncomfortable.

I didn't say that kids "need to learn about sex from drag queens and from attending exotic adult entertainment venues?" I said that children need to learn about sex at some point, and the policy on when to do so is dictated by outdated standards based on long surpassed moral standards.

Yes children need to learn about sex ar some point. Is taking them to exotic adult entertainment venues the way to go about it?

Nothing about drag queen story hour is about "getting back at religion" or "getting little kids wrapped up in sex" or an agenda to "get little kids involved in their sexuality".

I'm mostly talking about drag queen shows as kids being banned from them is mainly the issue. But there's also the boatload of sexually that want to teach little kids in elementary school.

I think the fact that you don't understand speaks volumes. It's also probably why initiatives like drag queen story hour should be expanded rather than curtailed.

I understand that you're in a drag queen story hour bubble and ignoring or deflecting everything else that's going on with the craze to sexualize little kids. Under the transparent euphemistic guise of 'just teaching them to be nice".

 

[USincognito]

Who “protected“ previous generations’ children who had to suffer though drag since [checks notes] time immemorial?

Why the sudden “danger”?

Certainly not Flip Wilson, Harvey Korman or Uncle Milty.

 

[JustOneWay]

That's what it's always been. It's burlesque. It's adult entertainment.

Wrong. It is not burlesque.

 

[USincognito]

Movie theaters are classified as such, G, PG, R, XXX

Actually that would be the movies themselves and there is no XXX rating. X was the original rating which the (dirty movie) industry borrowed by implying that if an X was dirty, a XXX would be really dirty.

It was because of that, the MPAA got rid of X and replaced it with NC-17.

 

[JustOneWay]

Should that include children attending exotic adult nightclub venues and exotic adult entertainers in children's libraries?

You are describing burlesque. Drag Queen Story Time is not burlesque.

 

[USincognito]

I stand with those who wrote the articles

"Leave innocent kids alone concerning sexuality", they need baseball, hop scotch, tether ball, kick ball, and to worry about getting to the ice cream truck when it sounds in the neighborhood

And nass shooter drills. We can't forget those.

 

[Servus]

You are describing burlesque. Drag Queen Story Time is not burlesque.

Do you honestly not know the difference between dqsh and drag queen shows?