House releases overview of evidence against Biden

[rjs330]

What a deliciously mendacious spin. According to Archer's testimony, a call was made or received while Hunter was with business associates and niceties were exchanged like "how's the weather" or "how is Beijing". Your phrasing suggests e Vice President was actively involved in business meetings.

The called each other every day so no connection can be made between phone calls and certain things happening.

That's not an established fact. That's a claim made in a supposed text message. It certainly isn't evidence.

Yes phone calls were made during the business meetings. And surprise surprise Hunter got what he wanted after Joe called and was in the speaker phone. Oh I know that happens all the time right in big important meetings. You in a viral meeting and your dad just happens to call and you put him in the speaker phone for everyone to hear.

Biden was actively involved because he called during the meetings. Oh I could excuse one maybe to accidental calls. But this many indicates a purpose.

Yes the connection certainly can be made. I just did it.

A text message by Hunter.

 

[Arcangl86]

Yes phone calls were made during the business meetings. And surprise surprise Hunter got what he wanted after Joe called and was in the speaker phone. Oh I know that happens all the time right in big important meetings. You in a viral meeting and your dad just happens to call and you put him in the speaker phone for everyone to hear.

Biden was actively involved because he called during the meetings. Oh I could excuse one maybe to accidental calls. But this many indicates a purpose.

Yes the connection certainly can be made. I just did it.

A text message by Hunter.

I thought Hunter called Joe, not the other way around.

 

[KCfromNC]

His house, his rules (values).

Yeah, how dare he support such un-American ideas as exchanging labor for money or allowing private ownership and investment in the means of production. I can see why the GOP would be very very upset at that.

 

[KCfromNC]

I thought Hunter called Joe, not the other way around.

220, 221, whatever it takes...

 

[BPPLEE]

Yeah, how dare he support such un-American ideas as exchanging labor for money.

What labor?

 

[KCfromNC]

What labor?

Yep, too many unanswered questions about the baseless GOP accusations to take them seriously.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yep, too many unanswered questions about the baseless GOP accusations to take them seriously.

Another deflection

 

[NxNW]

What labor?

Investment of capital.

 

[BPPLEE]

Investment of capital.

I didn’t know it was so lucrative

 

[rjs330]

I thought Hunter called Joe, not the other way around.

Even if that was the case that shows Joe was involved. It doesn't matter who called who. I'm not going to go through each incident to determine who called who. Joe was involved. Period.

How many times in the middle of a crucial important business meeting do you call your dad and put him on the speaker phone? And then afterward you just happen to get what you want? N

 

[Arcangl86]

Even if that was the case that shows Joe was involved. It doesn't matter who called who. I'm not going to go through each incident to determine who called who. Joe was involved. Period.

How many times in the middle of a crucial important business meeting do you call your dad and put him on the speaker phone? And then afterward you just happen to get what you want? N

So if your son, who you knew was struggling with a drug addiction called you, you wouldn't pick up? Especially when still dealing with the death of another son and thus probably wanting as much time with your living children as you can get? Did Hunter use his father to try to influence his business affairs? Almost certainly. Is that scuzzy? Yes. Does that implicate any wrong doing on Joe Biden's part? Not on it's own.

 

[BPPLEE]

So if your son, who you knew was struggling with a drug addiction called you, you wouldn't pick up? Especially when still dealing with the death of another son and thus probably wanting as much time with your living children as you can get? Did Hunter use his father to try to influence his business affairs? Almost certainly. Is that scuzzy? Yes. Does that implicate any wrong doing on Joe Biden's part? Not on it's own.

Then it shows how unaware of reality Joe Biden is

 

[rjs330]

So if your son, who you knew was struggling with a drug addiction called you, you wouldn't pick up? Especially when still dealing with the death of another son and thus probably wanting as much time with your living children as you can get? Did Hunter use his father to try to influence his business affairs? Almost certainly. Is that scuzzy? Yes. Does that implicate any wrong doing on Joe Biden's part? Not on it's own.

Did Joe allow himself to be used by his son for business influence. Most certainly. Remember they talked about the weather not his drug addiction.

Like I said, one time? Maybe two? Okay, but this happened at least 20 times that we know of.

 

[KCfromNC]

Another deflection

Nothing to deflect from, just a bunch of innuendo and attempts to make other people out to be the bad guys for pointing it out.

see also the current GOP House hearings.

 

[BPPLEE]

Nothing to deflect from, just a bunch of innuendo and attempts to make other people out to be the bad guys for pointing it out.

see also the current GOP House hearings.

The Republicans presenting probable cause for an inquiry and the Democrats denying it is all I see

 

[NxNW]

The Republicans presenting probable cause for an inquiry and the Democrats denying it is all I see

So far nobody has been able to articulate probable cause for anything. For example, GOP spokesman was asked to provide examples of wrongdoing in this press conference, and was unable to do so.

Rep. Jason Smith, R-Mo., Republican chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, appeared to grow frustrated Wednesday as he struggled to respond to a series of questions at a news conference related to the committee's investigation into President Joe Biden...

Then there is this editorial:

The GOP plows ahead with its Biden impeachment farce​

what’s the [GOP] case against the president? This would usually be the point where I’d explain said case, using the question format as a rhetorical device to set up the answer. But this time, I really want to know: What is it?

Republicans don’t seem to know, either, instead emitting hazy and malformed allegations of corruption that have more to do with Biden’s son Hunter, who is literally being prosecuted by the same Justice Department that Republicans claim has been “weaponized” against them.

Thus, their impeachment probe — which is entering its next embarrassing chapter with its first hearing Thursday — is a solution in search of a problem.

 

[BPPLEE]

So far nobody has been able to articulate probable cause for anything. For example, GOP spokesman was asked to provide examples of wrongdoing in this press conference, and was unable to do so.

Rep. Jason Smith, R-Mo., Republican chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, appeared to grow frustrated Wednesday as he struggled to respond to a series of questions at a news conference related to the committee's investigation into President Joe Biden...

Then there is this editorial:

The GOP plows ahead with its Biden impeachment farce​

what’s the [GOP] case against the president? This would usually be the point where I’d explain said case, using the question format as a rhetorical device to set up the answer. But this time, I really want to know: What is it?

Republicans don’t seem to know, either, instead emitting hazy and malformed allegations of corruption that have more to do with Biden’s son Hunter, who is literally being prosecuted by the same Justice Department that Republicans claim has been “weaponized” against them.

Thus, their impeachment probe — which is entering its next embarrassing chapter with its first hearing Thursday — is a solution in search of a problem.

You don’t have to provide proof to do an inquiry. Probable cause is based on the appearance of wrongdoing
If someone smelled like marijuana it gave me probable cause to do a search. I didn’t have to prove it was there before I investigated
The threshold for an inquiry is low.

 

[rjs330]

You don’t have to provide proof to do an inquiry. Probable cause is based on the appearance of wrongdoing
If someone smelled like marijuana it gave me probable cause to do a search. I didn’t have to prove it was there before I investigated

Probably cause is needed for a criminal charge. It is not needed in order to do an inquiry or begin a congressional investigation.

 

[BPPLEE]

Probably cause is needed for a criminal charge. It is not needed in order to do an inquiry or begin a congressional investigation.

Yeah but I said they had probable cause

 

[Hank77]

Biden was actively involved because he called during the meetings. Oh I could excuse one maybe to accidental calls. But this many indicates a purpose.

20 phone calls over approximately 10 years? 2 calls a year?