What Message Does The Proud Boys Heavy Sentencing Send?

[JustOneWay]

So Ray Epps ONLY gets a 500 $ fine ?????

He admitted to orchestrating the entrance into the capital. It's clown world. If he wasn't a fed he would have gotten life .

Please provide proof he was a fed. Otherwise you are doing precisely what Fox News and Tucker did, and Epps is suing them for defamation.

 

[BurningBush84]

He has not been sentenced yet. Though the guidelines are 0 to 6 months.

The charge he pleaded guilty to was engaging in disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds

He's not a fed. The Attorney General said so today in testimony to Congress, and also:

Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Gordon read a statement into the record due to the “unusual nature of the case” that affirmed Epps “was not before, during or after” the Capitol riot “a confidential source or an undercover agent for the government, the FBI, DHS or any law enforcement.”

Oh, so you believe it's impossible for Democrats to lie ????

FYI, most people in prison claim they are innocent.

Fox, Newsmax, Oan, all lies . They never ever tell the truth.

 

[BurningBush84]

Oh, so you believe it's impossible for Democrats to lie ????

FYI, most people in prison claim they are innocent.

Fox, Newsmax, Oan, all lies . They never ever tell the truth.

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[BurningBush84]

Yet Patriots who protested a rigged election get 20 years in prison for using telepathy.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Oh, so you believe it's impossible for Democrats to lie ????

Fox, Newsmax, Oan, all lies . They never ever tell the truth.

We have a claim on the table:

P: Ray Epps is 'a fed'.

What process of epistemology did you undertake to determine whether you believe this claim is true or false?

I follow a process of skepticism that tends to weigh evidence very heavily in determining whether a claim is true or false, and whether I am justified in believing it to be true or false. I have seen no evidence (zero, none) that Ray Epps is a fed or an informant. And the disavowals by both Epps and the Attorney General, while not completely dispositive, have led me to tentatively reject the claim.

 

[Bradskii]

Oh, so you believe it's impossible for Democrats to lie ????

FYI, most people in prison claim they are innocent.

Fox, Newsmax, Oan, all lies . They never ever tell the truth.

This is logical nonsense. 'Some people don't tell the truth therefore this must be a lie.'

You can say you have difficulty believing something. You can say that you doubt the veracity of any statement. For whatever reason you like. But if you call someone a liar then you need to have some proof to be able to do that. And 'the statement doesn't align with what I'd prefer to believe' doesn't cut it in any way whatsoever. In fact, it just verifies that exact sentiment - you don't like it.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yet Patriots who protested a rigged election get 20 years in prison for using telepathy.

Can you demonstrate telepathy is real?

 

[Saber Truth Tiger]

Yet Patriots who protested a rigged election get 20 years in prison for using telepathy.

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[BurningBush84]

The fact that your defending a guy wearing a Trump hat (Ray Epps) proves he's a Fed.

 

[Bradskii]

The fact that your defending a guy wearing a Trump hat (Ray Epps) proves he's a Fed.

I can't even call that illogical. It has no connection with logic at all. Nobody has defended him. Including his lawyer. He was charged and pleaded guilty. He didn't even defend himself.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The fact that your defending a guy wearing a Trump hat (Ray Epps) proves he's a Fed.

Do you have a problem understanding evidence, reasoning, or logic?

That is certainly not implied even if we *were* defending Epps. We are not. We are refuting false claims about him.

If you claim Donald Trump was Jack the Ripper, I will refute that claim too because it is just as false as the "Epps is a fed" nonsense.

 

[BurningBush84]

I can't even call that illogical. It has no connection with logic at all. Nobody has defended him. Including his lawyer. He was charged and pleaded guilty. He didn't even defend himself.

Ray Epps is caught on video doing what Biggs and Tarrio were allegedly doing through telepathy. Yet Epps only gets a 500$ fine.

 

[BurningBush84]

Do you have a problem understanding evidence, reasoning, or logic?

That is certainly not implied even if we *were* defending Epps. We are not. We are refuting false claims about him.

If you claim Donald Trump was Jack the Ripper, I will refute that claim too because it is just as false as the "Epps is a fed" nonsense.

So all these videos of Epps on Jan 6th are Deep Fakes ???

 

[Hans Blaster]

Ray Epps is caught on video doing what Biggs and Tarrio were allegedly doing through telepathy.

He's on video organizing, coordinating, and leading his subordinates in a planned attack? And here I thought he was just a lone old man flapping his lips on camera. Maybe this is related to that telepathy thing.

Yet Epps only gets a 500$ fine.

It's not a fine, it is restitution for the collective damage.

 

[Bradskii]

Ray Epps is caught on video doing what Biggs and Tarrio were allegedly doing through telepathy. Yet Epps only gets a 500$ fine.

The point you were making was that he was being defended by people here therefore he was a fed. Apart from that making zero sense whatsoever, no-one was defending him in any case.

I unsubscribed to this thread once. I don't know how I got back and involved in this nonsense. I'm definitely out of here this time.

 

[BurningBush84]

He's on video organizing, coordinating, and leading his subordinates in a planned attack? And here I thought he was just a lone old man flapping his lips on camera. Maybe this is related to that telepathy thing.

It's not a fine, it is restitution for the collective damage.

The Kangaroo court accused Tarrio and Biggs of telepathy. .... No evidence whatsoever of a PLAN to attack. Biggs got 17 years just for shaking a fence. Tarrio wasn't even there.

Similar things happened to Jesus and his disciples...

 

[essentialsaltes]

The Kangaroo court accused Tarrio and Biggs of telepathy. .... No evidence whatsoever of a PLAN to attack.

The judge pointed to Tarrio’s messages cheering on the Capitol attack and the Proud Boys’ role in it.

“Make no mistake,” Tarrio wrote in one message. “We did this.”

[These messages were not sent by telepathy.]

 

[BurningBush84]

I can't even call that illogical. It has no connection with logic at all. Nobody has defended him. Including his lawyer. He was charged and pleaded guilty. He didn't even defend himself.

Repent

The point you were making was that he was being defended by people here therefore he was a fed. Apart from that making zero sense whatsoever, no-one was defending him in any case.

I unsubscribed to this thread once. I don't know how I got back and involved in this nonsense. I'm definitely out of here this time.

This time huh ?

The judge pointed to Tarrio’s messages cheering on the Capitol attack and the Proud Boys’ role in it.

“Make no mistake,” Tarrio wrote in one message. “We did this.”

[These messages were not sent by telepathy.]

Cheering ???? Cheering ??? Tell me your not serious. And I thought Hitler was bad. But cheering ??? Your right , cheering is way, way worse than the crimes Hitler committed . 22 years was all he got for cheering ???? Talk about a slap on the wrist.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Tell me your not serious.

What do you want to know about my not serious?

 

[USincognito]

Ray Epps is caught on video doing what Biggs and Tarrio were allegedly doing through telepathy. Yet Epps only gets a 500$ fine.

Oh really? Please quote where he says "attack", "assault" or any other language with violent intent.

This is from the Tarrio DOJ press release.
>> In the days leading to Jan. 6, 2021, Tarrio and the other leaders of the Ministry of Self Defense hand-selected members of the organization, including co-defendant Dominic Pezzola, to serve as “rally boys” during the attack on the Capitol. To prepare for the attack on the Capitol, Tarrio and the other leaders of the Ministry of Self Defense established a chain of command, chose a time and place for their attack, and intentionally recruited others who would follow their top-down leadership and who were prepared to engage in physical violence if necessary. <<

Where in all his admonitions, did he call for violence? In fact the one time we know for sure about conflict with the police, he tried to get Ryan Samsel to not attack them. Samsel did anyway.