GOP: We know Joe Biden is corrupt even if there is no evidence of it!

[USincognito]

Is Biden's DoJ Not Indicting Hunter to Let Statute of Limitations Expire?

After Hunter Biden's plea agreement collapsed, some people ask whether the younger Biden will be put on trial soon. Not so fast, say US legal scholars.

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Sputnik is literally Russian propaganda.

 

[Pommer]

Sounds to me like you have something to hide.

Meh, even as a rhetorical device it’s a bit sophomoric.

The real “problem” is that we have people who are convinced that they are allowed to look for evidence of a crime before there is a “crime” to investigate.

There has to be evidence to make an accusation that a “crime may have occurred”.
Going through people’s personal documents, to make sure that no crime has occurred is very limited and mostly a 4th Amendment violation.
[IANAL]

 

[returntosender]

Ya’ll tickle me. You won’t even consider that there could be a hint of corruption where Biden is concerned.

If it's not fact it's gossip. Do you know what god says about gossip?

 

[NxNW]

Hunter is suing someone for releasing material from the laptop.

No he's not.

Wouldn’t that be admitting that it’s his? Or that it exists?

Only if he's suing someone for releasing material from his laptop, which he's not.

 

[NxNW]

At least that’s business income. What business is the Biden family in?

Questions aren't evidence.

And nothing you present about Trump surprises me. I’m not in denial like people are about Biden
Oh wait those are Trump’s tax records. I don’t think any of the payments made to the Bidens would be on their tax returns, I think Hunter had a problem with that but the DOJ let the statute of limitations expire

Is that a question? Or a sentence?

 

[Valletta]

My irony meter just exploded,

For the thousandth time, Shokin's firing was ordered by President Obama. The IMF, EU and NATO wanted him gone too.

Repeating a rumor does not make it true. The House is seeking documentation to understand Joe's sudden switch in policy, using taxpayer money, to demand the firing of Shokin in the below September 12, 2023 letter to State:

On June 11, 2015, then-
Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland wrote Prosecutor
General Shokin, applauding his office’s progress in anti-corruption efforts.6 In September 2015,
then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly stated “we want to work with
Prosecutor General Shokin so the [Prosecutor General Office] is leading the fight against
corruption.”7 Also in September, the Interagency Policy Committee asserted Prosecutor General
Shokin had made sufficient progress in combating corruption to warrant a third guarantee of a $1
billion loan.8 On November 5, 2015, then-Vice President participated in a call with then-
President of Ukraine Poroshenko and provided no indication that the United States’ policy
regarding Ukraine required the dismissal of Prosecutor General Shokin.9 By late 2015, however,
the removal of Prosecutor General Shokin became a condition of the loan guarantee by the
United States.10

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Letter-to-Secretary-Blinken-re-Shokin.pdf

 

[USincognito]

Repeating a rumor does not make it true.

What "rumor"?

I devoted a whole thread to debunking the claim that then VP Biden was acting on his own.

Let's talk about Joe Biden getting Viktor Shokin fired

Since this falsehood/historical revisionism has been cropping up numerous times and Rep. Taylor Greene repeated it in the House chambers last week, let's try putting this baby to bed at least in this section of CF. It's been almost 3 years. It's time to stop with the nonsense. 1. The most...

www.christianforums.com

 

[Valletta]

What "rumor"?

I devoted a whole thread to debunking the claim that then VP Biden was acting on his own.

Let's talk about Joe Biden getting Viktor Shokin fired

Since this falsehood/historical revisionism has been cropping up numerous times and Rep. Taylor Greene repeated it in the House chambers last week, let's try putting this baby to bed at least in this section of CF. It's been almost 3 years. It's time to stop with the nonsense. 1. The most...

www.christianforums.com

Why hasn't Joe produced documentation showing the order from Obama? The House has asked why the change in policy and asked for records. As to your explanation about the pseudonyms being created to protect Joe's schedule, why in the world is Joe claiming executive privilege pertaining to his schedule of ten years ago? I understand it at the time, but what would be the harm in releasing his old schedule? Taking into account that Joe lied on many occasions about never having discussed Hunter business with Hunter, and the White House changed the story to Joe was never involved in Hunter's business, do you understand why people are skeptical?

 

[BPPLEE]

No he's not.

Only if he's suing someone for releasing material from his laptop, which he's not.

Hunter Biden sues former Trump White House aide over alleged efforts to hack devices — CNN Politics

Attorneys for Hunter Biden have filed a civil lawsuit against former Trump White House aide Garrett Ziegler, alleging illegal hacking in violation of federal computer privacy laws.

apple.news

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/hunter-biden-counterclaim/index.html

Hunter Biden sues computer repair shop owner who worked on a laptop, accusing him of trying to invade his privacy​

 

[BPPLEE]

Questions aren't evidence.

Is that a question? Or a sentence?

You don’t know?

 

[BPPLEE]

Given the number of times a day I see that Donald's indictments are completely bogus and only meant to stop him from running, this comment inanely ironic.

I’m not a Trump supporter. I’m not in denial like Biden supporters are

 

[BPPLEE]

Sputnik is literally Russian propaganda.

Yeah. Like the laptop story, right?

 

[BPPLEE]

If it's not fact it's gossip. Do you know what god says about gossip?

There are plenty of facts, some people are just in denial

 

[BPPLEE]

It’s called “international business”; what was the money for!?
Who knows!?
It shouldn’t be investigated, unless there is first “probable cause”.
SARs aren’t themselves “probable cause”.

Probable cause is needed to make an arrest. It doesn’t figure in an investigation. A reasonable suspicion is all that is needed.

 

[BPPLEE]

The data certainly does, but whether or not it came from “the laptop” won’t be known unless/until “the laptop” resurfaces onto this plane of existence.

The data had to be stored somewhere and since the computer repairman is being sued, well Connect the dots

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/hunter-biden-counterclaim/index.html

 

[essentialsaltes]

The House is seeking documentation to understand Joe's sudden switch in policy, using taxpayer money, to demand the firing of Shokin

Maybe they should read the Washington Post.

Inside VP Biden’s linking of a loan to a Ukraine prosecutor’s ouster​

On the plane, according to a person who participated in the conversation, Biden “called an audible” — he changed the plan.

Other officials involved in the policy process, including two who were also on Biden’s plane, don’t quite remember Biden’s making such a forceful intervention. They recall a more disciplined policy process preceding the trip that led to consensus on linking the firing to the loan

In any case, by the time Biden landed in Kyiv, four people with direct knowledge told The Fact Checker, the Obama White House was firmly on board with the plan.

 

[NxNW]

Hunter Biden sues former Trump White House aide over alleged efforts to hack devices — CNN Politics

Attorneys for Hunter Biden have filed a civil lawsuit against former Trump White House aide Garrett Ziegler, alleging illegal hacking in violation of federal computer privacy laws.

apple.news

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/hunter-biden-counterclaim/index.html

Hunter Biden sues computer repair shop owner who worked on a laptop, accusing him of trying to invade his privacy​

The headline is false. The lawsuit is for releasing data, but does not specify where the data came from. We've covered this.

 

[NxNW]

You don’t know?

It's incoherent.

 

[BPPLEE]

The headline is false. The lawsuit is for releasing data, but does not specify where the data came from. We've covered this.

The data had to come from somewhere. I realize you still believe that there is no laptop but really?
The suit, filed in federal court in California, accuses Ziegler of "accessing, tampering with, manipulation, altering, copying and damaging computer data that they do not own and that they claim to have obtained from hacking into Plaintiff's iPhone data and from scouring a copy of the hard drive of what they claim to be Plaintiff's 'laptop' computer."
And this is from CNN

 

[NxNW]

The data had to come from somewhere.

But it didn't have to be a laptop, and the lawsuit makes no such claim. Your post was false, pure and simple.

I realize you still believe that there is no laptop but really?
The suit, filed in federal court in California, accuses Ziegler of "accessing, tampering with, manipulation, altering, copying and damaging computer data that they do not own and that they claim to have obtained from hacking into Plaintiff's iPhone data and from scouring a copy of the hard drive of what they claim to be Plaintiff's 'laptop' computer."

"Plaintiff's iPhone data and from scouring a copy of the hard drive of what they claim to be Plaintiff's 'laptop' computer" is a long long way from confirming an actual laptop.