Do you trust God or Man when it comes to the creation?

[trophy33]

"And on the 5th day God created..."

Dude if someone would have told me back when I was 15 that people in 2023 would be arguing about what that means I woulda laughed. Now i'm shocked

How do you know its supposed to be taken literally, at face value, as science even, though?

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

How do you know its supposed to be taken literally, at face value, as a science even, though?

Do you believe God knows how to speak english?

 

[trophy33]

Do you believe God knows how to speak english?

Yes. Does it mean that Jesus is a literal door, we are literal sheep and God is a literal lion?

Genesis was not written in English, btw. And it was not written by God.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

Yes. Does it mean that Jesus is a literal door, we are literal sheep and God is a literal lion?

Genesis was not written in English, btw. And it was not written by God.

Do you believe God is incapable of communicating with humans? Why didn't God just say "on the 100,000,000 day God created the birds of the air", does He think we can't do math?

 

[trophy33]

Do you believe God is incapable of communicating with humans? Why didn't God just say "on the 100,000,000 day God created the birds of the air", does He think we can't do math?

Again, Genesis is not written by God. It was written by humans, therefore those humans communicated in their mindset and language.

And those humans were not interested in literal history or science, they were interested in mythology, symbolism and parallelism. In meanings, not in technicalities.

 

[dwb001]

He asked you how the age of the Earth is salvational. You merely asserted without evidence that the first three chapters of Genesis is salvational. But they don't give the age of the Earth.


Seems like an important fact here. We aren't given an age for the Earth in the first three chapters of Genesis. So it can't be anything at all, since it doesn't exist.

Do you think with that mind?

 

[dwb001]

Again, Genesis is not written by God. It was written by humans, therefore those humans communicated in their mindset and language.

And those humans were not interested in literal history or science, they were interested in mythology, symbolism and parallelism. In meanings, not in technicalities.

How do you know what the first ones were thinking?

 

[trophy33]

How do you know what the first ones were thinking?

We know what people in Mesopotamia in the time of Babylonia wrote and what was their common genre and style. Their culture is not unknown to us.

Science, on the other hand, is a modern European invention, unknown back then.

 

[dwb001]

We know what people in Mesopotamia in the time of Babylonia wrote and what was their common genre and style. Their culture is not unknown to us.

Science, on the other hand, is a modern European invention, unknown back then.

I am talk about earlier than that and you know it

And who said that Genesis is about science? It is history.

 

[trophy33]

I am talk about earlier than that and you know it

And who said that Genesis is about science? It is history.

No, I do not know it. Neither our concept of science nor our concept of history was how people in ancient Mesopotamia wrote their writings.

 

[dwb001]

No, I do not know it. Neither our concept of science nor our concept of history was how people in ancient Mesopotamia wrote their writings.

That is conjecture.
But I have the eye witness account of how things happened.
What do you have to back your position?
Supposition and guesswork.

 

[trophy33]

But I have the eye witness account of how things happened.

And what is the name of this eye witness?

 

[dwb001]

And what is the name of this eye witness?

God.

 

[trophy33]

God.

Again, Genesis was not written by God.

 

[dwb001]

Again, Genesis was not written by God.

I know.... maybe ask a question.

 

[trophy33]

I know.... maybe ask a question.

No question, your arguments and conclusions are wrong.

 

[Jipsah]

it's really sad that it's becoming rare to find Christians that actually take the Bible at face value for what it says.

What it is is not a science book.

 

[The Barbarian]

Do you think with that mind?

Doesn't take a Barbarian to notice that there is no age of the Earth in the first three chapters of Genesis.

 

[dwb001]

Doesn't take a Barbarian to notice that there is no age of the Earth in the first three chapters of Genesis.

And?

 

[dwb001]

What it is is not a science book.

But it is a history book.