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Florida adds PragerU to K-12 curricula, Texas may follow

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“The bottom line is this is an alternative and parents are screaming for alternatives,” Sheri Few, president of U.S. Parents Involved in Education, told The Times. “Parents don’t want critical Marxist theories, overt sexualization and anti-American propaganda taught in government schools.”

 

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“Parents don’t want critical Marxist theories, overt sexualization and anti-American propaganda taught in schools."
I haven't seen any evidence any of that is being taught.
 
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I just watched one of their videos, to see what this is all about.


This looks good for Texas.
Is there a " part two"? This video completely missed the oppression , suffering, abuse, torture, dehumanizing, exploitation etc. ,etc. suffered by black people in the hands of white people. Then after slavery the contempt, desegregation, killings, tortures etc, etc.suffered by black people in the hands of white people. Did she forget to mention the KKK? My goodness!!!
Candice Owens has perverted the truth, not tell it. Her video needs to be called out for what it is. You can't change history by NOT talking about it folks.

Blessings.
 
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I think you mean for the history account to be correct, the black people suffered at the hands of the Democrats, and white people Republicans set them free. Probably don't need to get more graphic than that with little kids.
 
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Sorry, couldn't resist sprinkling in a little satire.


Admittedly, without being terribly familiar with Dennis Prager's content (I'm aware of who he is and have seen an interview or two he's been in), if this material is heavily biased toward a conservative viewpoint and/or employs the approaches of selective omission and abstraction, then I don't see how this is any better than what was done with programs like "BLM in School" like NYC schools did, or when a few schools in Cali and NY used "The 1619 Project" as course material.

Based on the material covered in that linked clip about slavery, it's not looking good with regards to what I mentioned above with regards to omission and abstraction.

That tactic has also been referred to as "factual, but not honest"

Putting all the emphasis on "here's the origin of the word slave" and "did you know slavery wasn't unique to America?" and "did you know slavery still goes on till this present day?" are factual, but not honest in the context of discussing American history and the impacts slavery had both at the time, and residual effects that occurred for decades and decades after the practice was legally stopped.

It would seem as if this content is no more useful to an honest discussion about slavery and it's impacts, than if I were to pop into a debate about the effects of gun violence, and start dropping irrelevant factoids like "did you know the word pistol originated in the Czech language?" and "Here's how gun powder is made"


Part of the idea behind the education system is to also educate people on things that with help them gain a little bit of contextual awareness along with historical facts (if the teacher is doing their job right). If you're simply presenting them with little random factoids (while completely ignoring social context), then you're not really giving them a comprehensive education, you're just preparing them for the Pub Quiz finals.
 
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There it is! Republicans are the saviors of the black community!

The fact that almost 90% of the black community today votes for democrats demonstrates the 1960's shift when those democrats against civil rights for blacks switched parties, and are now republicans.
The shift started during the New Deal when both parties had racist factions, but Democrats at least started attending to some of the Black community's economic interests.
 
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Based on the material covered in that linked clip about slavery, it's not looking good with regards to what I mentioned above with regards to omission and abstraction.
The cynical historian has a detailed review of the problems with this video but I think he used a few naughty words so I can’t link directly.
 
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Sorry, couldn't resist sprinkling in a little satire.


Admittedly, without being terribly familiar with Dennis Prager's content (I'm aware of who he is and have seen an interview or two he's been in), if this material is heavily biased toward a conservative viewpoint and/or employs the approaches of selective omission and abstraction, then I don't see how this is any better than what was done with programs like "BLM in School" like NYC schools did, or when a few schools in Cali and NY used "The 1619 Project" as course material.

Based on the material covered in that linked clip about slavery, it's not looking good with regards to what I mentioned above with regards to omission and abstraction.

That tactic has also been referred to as "factual, but not honest"

Putting all the emphasis on "here's the origin of the word slave" and "did you know slavery wasn't unique to America?" and "did you know slavery still goes on till this present day?" are factual, but not honest in the context of discussing American history and the impacts slavery had both at the time, and residual effects that occurred for decades and decades after the practice was legally stopped.

It would seem as if this content is no more useful to an honest discussion about slavery and it's impacts, than if I were to pop into a debate about the effects of gun violence, and start dropping irrelevant factoids like "did you know the word pistol originated in the Czech language?" and "Here's how gun powder is made"


Part of the idea behind the education system is to also educate people on things that with help them gain a little bit of contextual awareness along with historical facts (if the teacher is doing their job right). If you're simply presenting them with little random factoids (while completely ignoring social context), then you're not really giving them a comprehensive education, you're just preparing them for the Pub Quiz finals.
That's been PragerU's MO for years. IIRC, they may have started out somewhat more neutral and honest, but they're basically just right-wing propaganda at this point.
 
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That's been PragerU's MO for years. IIRC, they may have started out somewhat more neutral and honest, but they're basically just right-wing propaganda at this point.
I've seen more an more "once neutral/moderate" entities go that route.

Everyone knew what side they slightly learned toward. But they kept their biases pretty "tame".

But once it turned into an environment where echo chambers generate clicks, and clicks generate ad revenue, picking a side pays better than neutrality. Remaining neutral won't ruffle as many feathers, but it also won't make as much money either.


I've cited this example before. But that old comedy called "The Man Show". Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla... everyone knew Jimmy was a little left and Adam was a little right, but nobody really cared. Once polarization = profit, they both definitely leaned into it with their respective affiliations.


The same is true with news outlets. The more heavily polarized anchors/pundits are the ones who are household names (for good or bad depending on who you ask), the "straight down the middle news anchors", you'd be lucky to find someone who could name more than 3 of them without looking it up.
 
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There it is! Republicans are the saviors of the black community!

The fact that almost 90% of the black community today votes for democrats demonstrates the 1960's shift when those democrats against civil rights for blacks switched parties, and are now republicans.
Prager U - the topic of the thread - actually answers the truth behind the Southern Strategy myth:

 
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