Is military service sinful?

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So he is wrong because he is fat. Good one! I never heard that one before. You got it all worked out huh?

You don't even have to watch the video because he is fat!

I do not claim he is wrong. See? Your thinking is also lacking in precision.

I do not need to watch your videos just because you cannot provide the verse yourself, thats not how it works. And I will watch videos I personally find attractive to watch, sorry.

 

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I do not claim he is wrong. See? Your thinking is also lacking in precision.

I do not need to watch your videos just because you cannot provide the verse yourself, thats not how it works. And I will watch videos I personally find attractive to watch, sorry.

You asked for proof, I gave it to you and you wouldn't even pursue checking it out so you can't clain he is wrong or out of context in the least.

Good luck with that.

 

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You asked for proof, I gave it to you and you wouldn't even pursue checking it out so you can't clain he is wrong or out of context in the least.

Good luck with that.

You are not precise again. I did not ask you for any proof. I asked you very simply for a verse in which Jesus is explaining the fig tree meaning re-gathering of Israel in the 20th century, because you claim thats the meaning.

There is no need for videos or various unknown preachers, just give me the verse from gospels. In other words, I asked you for data, not for interpretations.

 

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
Edmjund Burke

 

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You are not precise again. I did not ask you for any proof. I asked you very simply for a verse in which Jesus is explaining the fig tree meaning re-gathering of Israel in the 20th century, because you claim thats the meaning.

There is no need for videos or various unknown preachers, just give me the verse from gospels. In other words, I asked you for data, not for interpretations.

Ezekial.

 

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Ezekial.

Its your interpretation/speculation that Ezekiel is the explanation of the fig tree, I get that.

But thats not what I am asking for.

 

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Its your interpretation/speculation that Ezekiel is the explanation of the fig tree, I get that.

But thats not what I am asking for.

It's all in the videos I posted. Scriptures too. That leaves us stuck with nowhere to go since you wont watch it. Or else you havent been clear about what you do want?

 

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Its your interpretation/speculation that Ezekiel is the explanation of the fig tree, I get that.

But thats not what I am asking for.

Maybe your studies will get deeper for you in the future.

 

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Or else you havent been clear about what you do want?

Is there a way to write it more clearly?

"Is there a verse in which Jesus is explaining the fig tree meaning re-gathering of Israel in the 20th century?"

Or, at least a verse in which Jesus says to His disciples something like "do not be alarmed, do not get ready, these events I share with you will not happen in your life, but in a life of Divide, my American child"?

Anything from the mouth of Jesus, saying what you say.

 

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Maybe your studies will get deeper for you in the future.

What do you know about my studies? Have you been with me since my childhood? Do you know what books, videos, churches, schools I was involved with throughout my life?

Please, do not speculate, its useless.

 

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Is there a way to write it more clearly?

"Is there a verse in which Jesus is explaining the fig tree meaning re-gathering of Israel in the 20th century?"

Or, at least a verse in which Jesus says to His disciples something like "do not be alarmed, do not get ready, these events I share with you will not happen in your life, but in a life of Divide, my American child"?

Is this the one you want?

Matthew 23:37
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!.../KJV

 

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Is this the one you want?

Matthew 23:37
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!.../KJV

Can you make bold the part in which He explains the fig tree? I cannot see it.

 

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What do you know about my studies? Have you been with me since my childhood? Do you know what books, videos, churches, schools I was involved with throughout my life?

Please, do not speculate, its useless.

I did not put a question mark on that. It was not speculation it was part of an entire study which you didn't want to participate in for some reason. That sounds like a young guy. Your best question to me was, how many Jews 2? 3? 50%? I thought it was funny but I have the feeling that you were serious. So you sound like a young guy and that explains your questions.

It's an entire study so picking up some highlights from it probably is confusing to you and and suggest questions. Nothing wrong with that. But you can't say a person is wrong and refuse to watch the teaching on it at the same time. That does not compute.

 

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Can you make bold the part in which He explains the fig tree? I cannot see it.

How's your comprehension? I showed you before that the fig tree represents Israel in scripture.

How often do you read your Bible?
Have you ever read the Bible from cover to cover, front to back?

 

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I did not put a question mark on that. It was not speculation it was part of an entire study which you didn't want to participate in for some reason. That sounds like a young guy. Your best question to me was, how many Jews 2? 3? 50%? I thought it was funny but I have the feeling that you were serious. So you sound like a young guy and that explains your questions.

It's an entire study so picking up some highlights from it probably is confusing to you and and suggest questions. Nothing wrong with that. But you can't say a person is wrong and refuse to watch the teaching on it at the same time. That does not compute.

I was a dispensationalist roughly a decade, reading various systematic theologies about the topic and attending related churches etc.
The fact I do not need some new random youtube video about the same says nothing about my previous study.

Have you ever changed your theology after many years of studying and comparing of various theological schools? Thats how study is done, not focusing your studies only to support one idea.

 

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Can you make bold the part in which He explains the fig tree? I cannot see it.

Joel 2:21-25 is basically the promise to Israel that they will be back and the Lord will be with them.

I don't think you read your Bible. I think you only listen to your favorite skinney Pastors who sing a different tune. Because if you read it then you can see how it's layed out. It's like God wrote the book and then shuffled the manuscriipt pages before publishing it. Consequently, all scripture or theories must agree with all other scripture.

That is speculation of mine based on how you talk and the questions you ask. How old are you?

 

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How's your comprehension? I showed you before that the fig tree represents Israel in scripture.

Are you proposing that when it represents something in one place, it always represents the same in other places and other contexts?

 

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Joel 2:21-25 is basically the promise to Israel that they will be back and the Lord will be with them.

But they were in the land when Jesus was talking to them.

 

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I was a dispensationalist for decades, reading various systematic theologies about the topic and attending related churches, studying Greek etc.
The fact I do not need some new random youtube video about the same says nothing about my previous study.

Have you ever changed your theology after many years of studying and comparing of various theological schools? Thats how study is done, not focusing your studies only to support one idea.

Touchy huh? That sure sounds impressive. More than me. I've never been to seminary or anything like that, I'm just a guy. And I believe the scriptures are true and that God is not the author of confusion. So I don't believe that we have to over-complicate it.

You wont even listen to this man to examine the data for yourself and then make specific rebuttles if you want, but alas, you sound like you are scared to watch a different teaching. Why? Do you fear that it wil destroy your world view so run from it. Lol! That's not how you do it. You set aside preconceived notions, study the material and then keep the good and throw out the trash because no one is right all the time, or about everything.

The Hly Spirit's job is to lead us into all truth. So why is (supposedly) leading me so far away from the truth and not you?

I would tell you about the times that the Lord pinged my spirit (quicken) to let me know that what I was watching is truth, but I wont because then you'd ask for the scripture on that one, lol. It is in there but maybe not your bible!

 

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Are you proposing that when it represents something in one place, it always represents the same in other places and other contexts?

I think so. I can't think of any verses where the refrence to a fig tree means something else but Israel.

Can you give me an example where scripture mentions a fig tree and it is not referring to Israel? Maybe I missed one.