The Establishment, Propaganda Media Really Don't Want You to See 'Sound of Freedom

[Say it aint so]

Once again. Do we judge a movie by what the actors believe in real life?

Of course not.

And we shouldn’t on this one either.

Tom Hanks said some pretty stupid things over the last couple of years. Should we boycott Saving Private Ryan?

Again, arguing a point I didn't make. I didn't make a judgement about the movie. I am making a judgement of using the movie as a platform to espouse pure nuttiness.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Again, arguing a point I didn't make. I didn't make a judgement about the movie.

I am making a judgement of using the movie as a platform to espouse pure nuttiness.

You not judging the movie, you are just judging the use of the movie

Sure sounds like you are judging the intent of the movie that doesn’t support anywhere in the movie what you are complying about.

This is what I keep asking you. Do we judge a movie based off of the actors personal remarks and feelings

Evidently that is exactly what it looks like you are doing.

All this having never even seen it.

 

[Say it aint so]

You not judging the movie, you are just judging the use of the movie

Sure sounds like you are judging the intent of the movie that doesn’t support anywhere in the movie what you are complying about.

This is what I keep asking you. Do we judge a movie based off of the actors personal remarks and feelings

Evidently that is exactly what it looks like you are doing.

All this having never even seen it.

Someone using the movie as a vehicle to espouse nuttiness is not making a judgement about the movie itself.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

There is nothing there to use.

You would know that if you actually watched the movie.

Watched the movie on Thursday.
Not a whiff of any conspiracy non-sense.
You would think reasonable people could get behind a cause like child trafficking and drop all the political mumbo jumbo.
I guess it is more important to hate right wing conspiracy nuts than save children from slavery, rape, and killing?
Kind of shows where people's heads are.

 

[Pommer]

Watched the movie on Thursday.
Not a whiff of any conspiracy non-sense.
You would think reasonable people could get behind a cause like child trafficking and drop all the political mumbo jumbo.
I guess it is more important to hate right wing conspiracy nuts than save children from slavery, rape, and killing?
Kind of shows where people's heads are.

There are those of us who still remember the lessons learned from the satanic panic that we witnessed during the late 1980s into the early 1990s and how good honest people’s lives were ruined because of a desire to “save the children”.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

There are those of us who still remember the lessons learned from the satanic panic that we witnessed during the late 1980s into the early 1990s and how good honest people’s lives were ruined because of a desire to “save the children”.

Yeah... this is all make believe. Just forget the whole thing. Nothing to see here!

 

[Pommer]

Yeah... this is all make believe. Just forget the whole thing. Nothing to see here!

Perhaps you’ve glossed over my point?
Yes, we must all be aware of the dangers of unscrupulous people who think nothing of preying on our children; but we should also realize that most people will not harm or exploit children and [we] could do more damage by waging an unending war on the few.

 

[Fantine]

Supporting inner city projects like Covenant House which ministers to runaways is more effective than financing rescue missions to Venezuela.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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A small clean up was done. Folks, the site rules include this:
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[RDKirk]

Well, there are actual child trafficking experts who are worried the inaccuracies and conspiracy theories might harm ongoing efforts to fight child trafficking. I suppose as long as one discounts those voices they can pretend the media is "playing defense for pedophilia". Seems shortsighted though.

Have those (beyond normal theatrical embellishment in movies "based on a true story") been identified in this movie?

 

[RDKirk]

The one on Netflix or something worse? I've never watched it but I read an article that explained the storyline.

It's not so much the storyline as the images presented. I'd bet big money that the only people watching "Cuties" multiple times are pedophiles.

 

[RDKirk]

Perhaps you’ve glossed over my point?
Yes, we must all be aware of the dangers of unscrupulous people who think nothing of preying on our children; but we should also realize that most people will not harm or exploit children and [we] could do more damage by waging an unending war on the few.

Did you read that twice before posting?

That's true of all heinous crimes. Most people don't engage in them. Why should we not wage unending war on the few who do?

 

[Pommer]

Did you read that twice before posting?

That's true of all heinous crimes. Most people don't engage in them. Why should we not wage unending war on the few who do?

Do you remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse scare of the 1980s-1990s?
That’s what I was thinking about; people were zealously prosecuted for heinous crimes that never occurred all in the name of “protecting the children”.

 

[stevil]

You would think reasonable people could get behind a cause like child trafficking and drop all the political mumbo jumbo.
I guess it is more important to hate right wing conspiracy nuts than save children from slavery, rape, and killing?
Kind of shows where people's heads are.

I'm sorry, are we just talking about a movie here?

I mean, whether people watch it or not, it doesn't mark them as being for or against saving "children from slavery, rape, and killing"

Last movie I watched at the movies was "The Little Mermaid" I thought it was pretty good. I'm not really into children's musical's myself but I went with my kids. I thought the movie was pretty good, The songs were OK. I especially liked Ursula.
But I'm not about to argue that people that don't like the movie are against mermaids or don't want "mermaids" to be saved.

I also watched Rambo Last Blood ages ago, and I didn't rush to the internet and demand people watch it and accuse people of being for Drug cartels and sex slavery if they don't watch Rambo.

I think the whole premise of this thread is nuts.

 

[Belk]

Have those (beyond normal theatrical embellishment in movies "based on a true story") been identified in this movie?

Yes. The worry (as I understand it) is that the vast majority of trafficking is not being abducted from a stranger as portrayed in this film. This is the exact same complaint that is against the real life protagonist from the movie. That he concentrates on high publicity "stunts" and ignores the hard work that comes in fighting trafficking as it is normally prosecuted.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes. The worry (as I understand it) is that the vast majority of trafficking is not being abducted from a stranger as portrayed in this film. This is the exact same complaint that is against the real life protagonist from the movie. That he concentrates on high publicity "stunts" and ignores the hard work that comes in fighting trafficking as it is normally prosecuted.

Unless the movie claims that's how most kids are being trafficked, that's a fake complaint.

This is supposedly a movie about one particular true sequences of events.

Compare this movie to any other "based on a true story" movie...and your only complaint is "that's not how most abductions happen?"

That's like complaining about "Blackhawk Down" "That's now how most combat extractions happen."

Where were the liberal complaints about "The Woman King?"

 

[iluvatar5150]

Unless the movie claims that's how most kids are being trafficked, that's a fake complaint.

This is supposedly a movie about one particular true sequences of events.

Compare this movie to any other "based on a true story" movie...and your only complaint is "that's not how most abductions happen?"

That's like complaining about "Blackhawk Down" "That's now how most combat extractions happen."

I think some of the backlash stems from stuff Cavezal has said during the promotion of the film and elsewhere. He’s a big Qanon guy apparently, so while that stuff isn’t in the movie, it’s still being attached to the movie.

There’s definitely some overreaction happening, too, but it’s not coming from nowhere.

 

[Pommer]

Unless the movie claims that's how most kids are being trafficked, that's a fake complaint.

This is supposedly a movie about one particular true sequences of events.

Compare this movie to any other "based on a true story" movie...and your only complaint is "that's not how most abductions happen?"

That's like complaining about "Blackhawk Down" "That's now how most combat extractions happen."

Where were the liberal complaints about "The Woman King?"

I’m lost now…I don’t think that the film is controversial because how the “true-story” parts are portrayed but that there is a movement pushing this narrative that hordes of children are being abducted for nefarious purposes. If this is the “evidence” maybe a movie isn’t the best venue to broach the subject?

 

[RDKirk]

I’m lost now…I don’t think that the film is controversial because how the “true-story” parts are portrayed but that there is a movement pushing this narrative that hordes of children are being abducted for nefarious purposes. If this is the “evidence” maybe a movie isn’t the best venue to broach the subject?

That is not contained within the movie.

 

[RDKirk]

I think some of the backlash stems from stuff Cavezal has said during the promotion of the film and elsewhere. He’s a big Qanon guy apparently, so while that stuff isn’t in the movie, it’s still being attached to the movie.

There’s definitely some overreaction happening, too, but it’s not coming from nowhere.

Who attaches it to the movie? I haven't seen any of those references in the marketing.