June home sales drop to the slowest pace in 14 years as short supply chokes the market

[comana]

Does it really even matter though, considering our population is literally starving for more real estate?

“The market can easily absorb a doubling of inventory.” - Lawrence Yun, chief economist for the Realtors.

They want real estate near their jobs and/or locations they want to live. These Trump cities need jobs, infrastructure, schools, police/fire, hospitals, shopping, and residents to happen all at the same time. Cities tend to grow organically for a reason.

 

[Landon Caeli]

They want real estate near their jobs and/or locations they want to live. These Trump cities need jobs, infrastructure, schools, police/fire, hospitals, shopping, and residents to happen all at the same time.

Well, that's just it, Trump is not talking about small towns here.. He's talking about large, full-blown cities, with industry and everything you just said. Those who are willing to take part, could be seen as pioneers themselves, with opportunities unimaginable.

Think of William Mulholland who contributed much to the expansion of Los Angles. Who will be the next big civil engineers of these cities, with roads and libraries named after them?

Cities tend to grow organically for a reason.

What is the reason?

...Why 'must' it be?

 

[Desk trauma]

Well, that's just it, Trump is not talking about small towns here.. He's talking about large, full-blown cities, with industry and everything you just said. Those who are willing to take part, could be seen as pioneers themselves, with opportunities unimaginable.

Think of William Mulholland who contributed much to the expansion of Los Angles. Who will be the next big civil engineers of these cities, with roads and libraries named after them?

No one employed by a Trump administration.

 

[comana]

Well, that's just it, Trump is not talking about small towns here.. He's talking about large, full-blown cities, with industry and everything you just said. Those who are willing to take part, could be seen as pioneers themselves, with opportunities unimaginable.

Think of William Mulholland who contributed much to the expansion of Los Angles. Who will be the next big civil engineers of these cities, with roads and libraries named after them?

What is the reason?

...Why 'must' it be?

I’m curious how you think all of these things will happen together? Why would a developer invest in a hospital or a school before the population is established? Why would people buy homes without a job first? Roads and highways linking to other major hubs? How far out in the middle of nowhere is all this land?

Mulholland routed water to an already existing city with demand for growth in place. He didn’t route water to the middle of nowhere hoping that would attract everything required for a thriving city.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Think of William Mulholland who contributed much to the expansion of Los Angles.

That's exactly the sort of thing I'd be afraid of with a Trump-built City of the Future.

Mulholland's career effectively ended on March 12, 1928, when the St. Francis Dam failed twelve hours after he and his assistant, Assistant Chief Engineer and general manager Harvey Van Norman, had personally inspected the site.
Recovery crews worked for days to dig out bodies and clear away the mud from the flood's path. The final death toll is estimated to be at least 431,[38][39] of which at least 108 were minors.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I’m curious how you think all of these things will happen together? Why would a developer invest in a hospital or a school before the population is established? Why would people buy homes without a job first? Roads and highways linking to other major hubs? How far out in the middle of nowhere is all this land?

Mulholland routed water to an already existing city with demand for growth in place. He didn’t route water to the middle of nowhere hoping that would attract everything required for a thriving city.

Of course it begins with utility and construction workers, kicking off the project. They'll be making income, and will need places to sleep and eat, so they'll need food, some taverns, entertainment, hotels, and housing... This is how Las Vegas started! It started because construction workers on the hoover dam wanted a place to spend their money. Over time, and through construction contracts, things really begin to take off, especially considering that a "master plan" will have already been established. Everyone will be excited about the future, and word will spread about opportunity.

History of Las Vegas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[comana]

Of course it begins with utility and construction workers, kicking off the project. They'll be making income, and will need places to sleep and eat, so they'll need food, some taverns, entertainment, hotels, and housing... This is how Las Vegas started! It started because construction workers on the hoover dam wanted a place to spend their money. Over time, and through construction contracts, things really begin to take off, especially considering that a "master plan" will have already been established. Everyone will be excited about the future, and word will spread about opportunity.

History of Las Vegas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

An organic city that grew to fill demand. The complete opposite of these Trump cities.

 

[FireDragon76]

I'd like to see reasons why a masterplanned city, built an a previously uninhabited area, is unlikely to take-off aside from claims that we "haven't seen it before"... Realistically, we *have* seen it before... I can tell you that my ancestors left their native countries and came here to the United States, before there was anything here... My ancestors surveyed the land, and then began building New Amsterdam...

Your ancestors could pay the natives in trinkets and blankets. Now American real estate can cost millions of dollars just for a square mile.

 

[FireDragon76]

BTW, I'm definitely not against urban planning, quite the contrary. I just don't think grandiose plans are remotely realistic. Lots of small changes are needed to make American cities more productive and affordable, and they run headlong into NIMBY-ism.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Your ancestors could pay the natives in trinkets and blankets. Now American real estate can cost millions of dollars just for a square mile.

I think Trump is offering government land for these 10 cities... It would be just like the old days.

 

[Pommer]

I think Trump is offering government land for these 10 cities... It would be just like the old days.

What “forty acres and a mule”?

 

[Desk trauma]

I think Trump is offering government land for these 10 cities... It would be just like the old days.

Which gets back us back once again to the issue of where this land is to be found.

 

[Landon Caeli]

An organic city that grew to fill demand. The complete opposite of these Trump cities.

I don't see how Las Vegas is more organically grown than Trump's Freedom Cities, considering both begin with construction workers needing entertainment and lodging. The only difference is one has no goal, and the other has long-term goals.

...So technically, by logic, the second option is more promising than the first.

...Unless you think there is something 'spiritually' appealing about some places over others. And that's why we can't ever know, until it happens..?

 

[Desk trauma]

I don't see how Las Vegas is more organically grown than the Trump cities

Then you're not looking.

 

[Pommer]

Which gets back us back once again to the issue of where this land is to be found.

I’m seeing large tracts of land can be had in NV, WY, UT and OR. (@ page 10-11)

 

[Pommer]

I don't see how Las Vegas is more organically grown than Trump's Freedom Cities, considering both begin with construction workers needing entertainment and lodging. The only difference is one has no goal, and the other has long-term goals.

...So technically, by logic, the second option is more promising than the first.

...Unless you think there is something 'spiritually' appealing about some places over others. And that's why we can't ever know, until it happens..?

Can we tackle the thorny issue of existing infrastructure firstly?

 

[Desk trauma]

I’m seeing large tracts of land can be had in NV, WY, UT and OR. (@ page 10-11)

I am sure those areas have not developed large cities as purely an oversite not as a response to harsh conditions and lack of resources.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I’m seeing large tracts of land can be had in NV, WY, UT and OR. (@ page 10-11)

CO and MT have sizable tracts as well.

 

[comana]

I don't see how Las Vegas is more organically grown than Trump's Freedom Cities, considering both begin with construction workers needing entertainment and lodging. The only difference is one has no goal, and the other has long-term goals.

...So technically, by logic, the second option is more promising than the first.

...Unless you think there is something 'spiritually' appealing about some places over others. And that's why we can't ever know, until it happens..?

It’s a very chicken or the egg concept. It requires developers to take a leap of faith that all the other pieces will be in place and that people will find these cities desirable for their needs.

 

[comana]

CO and MT have sizable tracts as well.

Water is an issue in western states.