florida revisionist and racist black history curriculum.

[Goonie]

Kamala Harris condemns Florida over curriculum claim of slavery ‘benefit’

From the article

'On Wednesday, the Florida board of education approved new standards for how public schools should teach Black history.

According to a 216-page document, public school students will now be taught that some Black people received “personal benefit” from slavery – because it taught them useful skills.

“Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” one curriculum benchmark said.

The new curriculum also says Black people perpetrated violence during some race massacres, including the 1906 Atlanta race riot and the 1921 Tulsa massacre.'

Nothing more than racist revisionist lies.

 

[public hermit]

We know how they do: Make Racism Great Again.

 

[FireDragon76]

Sickening.

The 1921 Tulsa riots were instigated by angry whites rioting and firebombing black neighborhoods in north Tulsa (I used to live in Tulsa, BTW, everybody knows the real history of what happened there now days). But I guess Florida doesn't care about facts anymore.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Sickening.

The 1921 Tulsa riots were instigated by angry whites rioting and firebombing black neighborhoods in north Tulsa (I used to live in Tulsa, BTW, everybody knows the real history of what happened there now days). But I guess Florida doesn't care about facts anymore.

Florida had a Tulsa like event as well. Rosewood.

the 1923 Rosewood massacre

Rosewood is a 1997 American historical drama film directed by John Singleton, inspired by the 1923 Rosewood massacre in Florida, when a white mob killed black people and destroyed their town.

 

[Goonie]

And not one word from the right on this forum. Embarrassed?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Sickening.

The 1921 Tulsa riots were instigated by angry whites rioting and firebombing black neighborhoods in north Tulsa (I used to live in Tulsa, BTW, everybody knows the real history of what happened there now days). But I guess Florida doesn't care about facts anymore.

Well those are the facts. A lot of the resentment towards freed blacks in the south post civil war was due to the fact that freed black people had experience and knowledge that poor white farmers lacked. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your preferred narrative of resentment and division.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

And not one word from the right on this forum. Embarrassed?

Well. It is probably because they approve of the curriculum .

 

[Ana the Ist]

Well. It is probably because they approve of the curriculum .

Leftists- "CRT is just real history."

Real historical facts are injected into the curriculum....

Leftists- "That's not real history!"

Let's see...average annual per capita income of Ghana 2022 in US dollars about 2000$ Same for Nigeria. These would be the amongst the many people who sold the Africans into slavery.

Average annual per capita US dollars of black people in the US? A little over 19,000. Gee. The descendents of slaves have it better than the descendents of the people who sold their ancestors into slavery. Wonder how that happened?

 

[essentialsaltes]

While this one element is extremely tone-deaf and deserves some editing, I couldn't get too outraged. Until Florida tried to defend it and did such a bad job of it.

Responding to mounting criticism, the department issued a statementThursday offering 16 examples of historic figures it said fit that description. That they developed highly specialized abilities that helped them later in life is “factual and well documented,” the department stated.

Several critics argued that nearly half of the 16 historic figures highlighted by the state were never enslaved. Others, who did spend time in slavery, did not gain their skills from their servitude.

“They just threw out a bunch of names to make it seem like something good came of (slavery),” said Andrew Spar, president of the Florida Education Association teachers union. “The reality of it is, the facts don’t back up what they are saying.”

He mentioned Booker T. Washington, included on the state list as an educator. Washington was enslaved but did not gain his skills until after being freed at age 9.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

While this one element is extremely tone-deaf and deserves some editing, I couldn't get too outraged. Until Florida tried to defend it and did such a bad job of it.

Responding to mounting criticism, the department issued a statementThursday offering 16 examples of historic figures it said fit that description. That they developed highly specialized abilities that helped them later in life is “factual and well documented,” the department stated.

Several critics argued that nearly half of the 16 historic figures highlighted by the state were never enslaved. Others, who did spend time in slavery, did not gain their skills from their servitude.

“They just threw out a bunch of names to make it seem like something good came of (slavery),” said Andrew Spar, president of the Florida Education Association teachers union. “The reality of it is, the facts don’t back up what they are saying.”

He mentioned Booker T. Washington, included on the state list as an educator. Washington was enslaved but did not gain his skills until after being freed at age 9.

The racists always trot out these people and want to take credit for their achievements while denying their contribution to the success of America. Now that imho is a crime and a shame that they also deny.

 

[FireDragon76]

The racists always trot out these people and want to take credit for their achievements while denying their contribution to the success of America. Now that imho is a crime and a shame that they also deny.

Haven't these people seen/read 12 Years a Slave or Roots? How they could ever think slavery was good for people boggles the mind. Slavery did terrible things to black people, including internalised racism, the legacy of which continues to affect contemporary African Americans.

Booker T. Washington's success is a testament to the human spirit and the humanity of African-Americans as people, not to chattel slavery.

 

[Goonie]

Haven't these people seen/read 12 Years a Slave or Roots? How they could ever think slavery was good for people boggles the mind. Slavery did terrible things to black people, including internalised racism, the legacy of which continues to affect contemporary African Americans.

Booker T. Washington's success is a testament to the human spirit, not to chattel slavery.

Haven't you heard the descendants of slaves are better off than than their african counterparts, according to Ana the 1st, so that makes slavery great!!!!!

 

[FireDragon76]

Haven't you heard the descendants of slaves are better off than than their african counterparts, according to Ana the 1st, so that makes slavery great!!!!!

Completely ignoring how slavery and colonialism went hand it hand in that part of the world...

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Haven't you heard the descendants of slaves are better off than than their african counterparts, according to Ana the 1st, so that makes slavery great!!!!!

Shows how ignorant he is.

 

[essentialsaltes]

With defenders like this...

[Gutfield and cohosts] debated the newly-approved Florida curriculum on Black history — which includes teaching that “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit” — on Monday’s edition of Fox News Channel’s The Five.

JESSICA TARLOV: And frankly, I’m just fundamentally uncomfortable with the sentence that Blacks benefited at all from this. ... Obviously, I’m not Black, but I’m Jewish. Would someone say about the Holocaust, for instance, that there were some benefits for Jews? Right? While they were hanging out in concentration camps. You learned a strong work ethic, right? Maybe you learned a new skill.

GREG GUTFELD: Did you ever read ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’? Vik Frankel talks about how you had to survive in a concentration camp by having skills. You had to be useful. Utility, utility kept you alive!

 

[durangodawood]

Of course some enslaved people learned some skills suitable for life the society that enslaved them. I dont see how this could even be controversial.

But.... this has the sour smell of a slavery state trying to soften for itself the shame of its past by framing the matter as "well there were minuses and plusses for enslaved people".

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Oh yeah, they learned. Of course they would not want to answer what this song was about.

 

[FireDragon76]

Of course some enslaved people learned some skills suitable for life the society that enslaved them. I dont see how this could even be controversial.

But.... this has the sour smell of a slavery state trying to soften for itself the shame of its past by framing the matter as "well there were minuses and plusses for enslaved people".

This is all a really bad look for a state whose economy relies alot on tourism and entertainment.

 

[bèlla]

It reminds me of a line from an old book about the church. The history was being revised and when they read it they laughed and said no one will believe this. The revisionist retorted, not now, but in three or four generations they won't know any differently. The ones who know the truth will be gone and only the lie remains.

If I believed the word was true and there's nothing new under the sun I'd wonder how many times it's happened before. While you won't uncover every deception you'll become more discriminating with your sources and don't assume things are as they've said.

The second thing I'd wonder is why now? Why is it important to rewrite the narrative on slavery? Not that it hasn't been diddled with already. They've had 400 years to do it. What prompted the shift? If I was a betting person I'd recollect the recent decision on affirmative action and other events that are unfavorable and wonder to myself.

At the very least I'd know reparations weren't coming. And I might revisit the old writings on slavery (before they change) and compare them to the current culture.

~bella

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The second thing I'd wonder is why now? Why is it important to rewrite the narrative on slavery? Not that it hasn't been diddled with already.

The hard truth needs to be told and not white washed.