Did Men Really Walk On The Moon?

[d taylor]

I believe God embedded "Easter eggs" into His creation.

Proverbs 25:2a It is the glory of God to conceal a thing:

Things that were not to be discovered until the time was right.

(Such as oil.)

And when the right time came, God enlightened someone to find them.

Proverbs 25:2 ... but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

(Notice God refers to scientists as "kings"? Solomon was one such scientist/king.)

But all in God's time.

The tower of Babel showed mankind was moving too fast, and had to be put in check.

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There is another option
Or as i believe, man is still evil and sinful and this moon business is just a big ole deception that has taken in a lot of people on earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

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There is another option
Or as i believe, man is still evil and sinful and this moon business is just a big ole deception that has taken in a lot of people on earth.

Did you ever watch Capricorn One?

Capricorn One is a 1977 British-produced American thriller film in which a reporter discovers that a supposed Mars landing by a crewed mission to the planet has been faked via a conspiracy involving the government and—under duress—the crew themselves.

Capricorn One—the first crewed mission to Mars—is on the launch pad. Just before liftoff, astronauts Charles Brubaker, Peter Willis, and John Walker are suddenly removed from the spacecraft. Bewildered, they are flown to an abandoned military base in the desert. The launch proceeds on schedule, with the public unaware the spacecraft is empty.

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The ending was pretty good.

 

[d taylor]

Did you ever watch Capricorn One?





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The ending was pretty good.

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I missed it, not sure if Mrs Seiro brought that one to the theater, back in the day.

 

[Lost4words]

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Show the recorded example of these people learning how to control and fly the Lunar module back in the 1960's.

 

[JacksBratt]

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Show the recorded example of these people learning how to control and fly the Lunar module back in the 1960's.

They attempted a test vehicle for landing the lunar module on the moon, once .... and the pilot ejected, the vehicle crashed and burned.

They also tested the space suits... once... in a true vacuum.. the guy almost died. Never tested them again..

 

[JacksBratt]

• APS propellant mass: 5,187 lb (2,353 kg) stored in two 36-cubic-foot (1.02 m3) propellant tanks

So, you look at a diagram with different chambers and spherical tanks... and accept that it is totally functional.

I don't.

Where is their toilet? Where was their food kept? Drinking water?

IMO, With that much fuel so close to them, in a metal tin can without sufficient insulations.. they would have cooked after 7 minutes of a burn cycle.

A container of Helium or any other compressed gas... in a true vacuum, would have to be different than one for our atmospheric pressure.

Not to mention that the moon is very hot, or very cold. These heat cycles would create fluctuations that would put enormous stress on those tanks.

But... people see the diagram and say "NASA" had all the math to prove it worked.

 

[JacksBratt]

Note the RCS thrusters in podromos' picture. RCS = Reaction Control System. The RCS thrusters are pointed in different directions to provide attitude control so the vessel doesn't spin like a top.

You think that those little RCS thrusters are going to compensate for the directional incompetence of a ball shaped rocket, with enough thrust to take that vehicle 100 km up against a gravity that is still a force to be reckoned with?

The unit was not flown by computer... It was manual... Even still the thrust that would be necessary to move that craft to a velocity necessary to climb 100 km against the moons gravity.. be strong and rapid. (7 minutes only)There was no 1 hour of constant thrust that would have moved them at 100 km/h.

That thing was extremely directionaly unstable and those little puffers at the side... useless. IMO.

 

[Yttrium]

You think that those little RCS thrusters are going to compensate for the directional incompetence of a ball shaped rocket, with enough thrust to take that vehicle 100 km up against a gravity that is still a force to be reckoned with?

Yep. Here, read all about it:

https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/LM10_Reaction_Control_ppRC1-12.pdf

 

[Bradskii]

They attempted a test vehicle for landing the lunar module on the moon, once .... and the pilot ejected, the vehicle crashed and burned.

You really make no attempt to check anything you say, do you. You just make things up. It's farcical...

Lunar Landing Research Vehicle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

During the preceding two years, a total of 198 flights of LLRV-1 and six flights of LLRV-2 had been flown without a serious accident.

They also tested the space suits... once... in a true vacuum.. the guy almost died. Never tested them again..

One guy had a hose disconnect in an early test on an earlier version of a suit, two years before they tested the Apollo versions. And then...

50 Years Ago: Apollo Suit Backpack Passes Vacuum Testing - NASA

In June 1968, engineers from the Crew Systems Division (CSD) at the Manned Spacecraft Center (MSC), now NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston, certified the

www.nasa.gov

On June 24, astronaut Thomas K. Mattingly completed the first four-hour crewed run in the chamber, transferring from the chamber’s life support system to the PLSS for the first time, a task that could not be completed during the LTA-8 testing in May. Astronaut Russell L. Schweickart, then assigned as Lunar Module Pilot (LMP) for Apollo 8 and scheduled to conduct the first Apollo EVA to test both the suit and the PLSS in space, conducted a three-hour chamber test on June 29. Later that day, Apollo 8 backup LMP Alan L. Bean completed a similar three-hour test.

All three astronauts wore the new Apollo pressure suit which incorporated changes recommended after the Apollo fire, such as the use of non-flammable materials, and that NASA certified in January 1968 during tests in the same chamber. The PLSS performed exceptionally well during the runs, meeting all test objectives.

At this point, your posts are becoming embarrassing.

 

[prodromos]

So, you look at a diagram with different chambers and spherical tanks... and accept that it is totally functional.

I don't.

It is a very simplified depiction. If you wanted to, I'm sure you could find much more detailed information, but you only look for what you want to see.

Where is their toilet? Where was their food kept? Drinking water?

I'm sure you could find out if you really wanted to, but you don't. I'm not going to waste more of my time looking up stuff to answer your requests when you can easily do the research yourself.

IMO, With that much fuel so close to them, in a metal tin can without sufficient insulations.. they would have cooked after 7 minutes of a burn cycle.

Obviously your opinion counts for diddly squat.

A container of Helium or any other compressed gas... in a true vacuum, would have to be different than one for our atmospheric pressure.

It's a difference of 1 atmosphere pressure between a true vacuum and the air pressure on the earth's surface, hardly any difference at all.

Not to mention that the moon is very hot, or very cold. These heat cycles would create fluctuations that would put enormous stress on those tanks.

Hardly any of that heat energy is direct heat, it is almost all radiated heat, which can be very easily reflected away. You should do a bit of research before making stupid comments.

But... people see the diagram and say "NASA" had all the math to prove it worked.

You haven't shown anything to the contrary, just your uneducated opinion

 

[Lost4words]

It is a very simplified depiction. If you wanted to, I'm sure you could find much more detailed information, but you only look for what you want to see.

I'm sure you could find out if you really wanted to, but you don't. I'm not going to waste more of my time looking up stuff to answer your requests when you can easily do the research yourself.

Obviously your opinion counts for diddly squat.

It's a difference of 1 atmosphere pressure between a true vacuum and the air pressure on the earth's surface, hardly any difference at all.

Hardly any of that heat energy is direct heat, it is almost all radiated heat, which can be very easily reflected away. You should do a bit of research before making stupid comments.

You haven't shown anything to the contrary, just your uneducated opinion

Agree fully with your post.

These people who believe in a flat earth or that man didnt go to the moon or that the moon has its own light source, always come up with posts full of uneducated, unscientific and misinformed 'rubbish'.

No disrespect aimed at these people though. Just stating the obvious.

 

[AV1611VET]

These people who believe in a flat earth or that man didnt go to the moon or that the moon has its own light source, always come up with posts full of uneducated, unscientific and misinformed 'rubbish'.

Scientists and journalists do their part as well though.

Especially with their scare tactics.

Asteroids, bees, comets, syzygys, environment out of balance, overpopulation, Y2K, bacon & eggs, etc. and so on.

All supposed to have killed us by now.

 

[ozso]

I'm not into silly conspiracy theories, but I think it's quite possible that Stanley Kubrick assassinated JFK because he was about to reveal that the moon landings were faked.

 

[JacksBratt]

Yep. Here, read all about it:

https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/LM10_Reaction_Control_ppRC1-12.pdf

Engine life 1000 seconds with 100lbs thrust.. got them 100 km's against a gravitational pull?

Sorry, not buying it. The Saturn V had 7,750,000 lbf (34,500 kN) sea level for stage 1 alone and burned for 168 seconds.

 

[Yttrium]

Engine life 1000 seconds with 100lbs thrust.. got them 100 km's against a gravitational pull?

Sorry, not buying it. The Saturn V had 7,750,000 lbf (34,500 kN) sea level for stage 1 alone and burned for 168 seconds.

Those are attitude control thrusters, not the main thrusters.

 

[Bradskii]

Engine life 1000 seconds with 100lbs thrust.. got them 100 km's against a gravitational pull?

Sorry, not buying it. The Saturn V had 7,750,000 lbf (34,500 kN) sea level for stage 1 alone and burned for 168 seconds.

And the link and the pdf are both titled titled 'Reaction control.' Don't you know what that is?

And the Saturn V (third stage) had them at 150 pounds: Rocket Engine, Liquid Fuel, Apollo Reaction Control System (RCS)

 

[Gene2memE]

They attempted a test vehicle for landing the lunar module on the moon, once .... and the pilot ejected, the vehicle crashed and burned.

They also tested the space suits... once... in a true vacuum.. the guy almost died. Never tested them again..

I don't know about the former, but the latter certainly isn't true.

The Apollo space suits were the result of more than 10 years of development and testing across the Mercury and Gemini programmes. The Apollo suits were based on the Gemini suits, which themselves were based on those from the Mercury programme. Which in turn were modified US Navy pressure suits worn by pilots for high-altitude flights.

Testing was extensive. The Gemini suits were conducting full EVAs four years before the moon landings.

The Apollo suits were A7. That is, they were the seventh iteration of the Apollo prototype suit. Actually, there were more than that, as some of the suits had multiple Blocks made by different companies.

The Apollo suits underwent testing for over four years. The A7 underwent about 2 1/2 years of testing before it was accepted by NASA. That included dozens of vacuum tests, both partial and full, on earth. It also included full water testing.

In space, the A7 undertook vacuum spacewalks with 2 astronauts (each of 46 minutes) and also vacuum tests within the lunar module, all on the Apollo 9 mission. No one "almost died" - the worst thing that happened on Apollo 9 was that one of the astronauts suffered from space adaptation sickness and vomited a number of times.

 

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Please stay on topic. No talk of flat earth, aliens, Donald Trump, covid, or other unrelated topics. Please, DO NOT DOUBLE POST.

yes, one of them was christian jim irwin, i encourage you to read his book more than earthlings

 

[d taylor]

yes, one of them was christian jim irwin, i encourage you to read his book more than earthlings

A christian freemason interesting

 

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A christian freemason interesting

checked into that, dad actually met him, definitely turned his back on freemasonry, was a solid christian, read the book.