Sunday Is Not the Sabbath

[SabbathBlessings]

For Seventh Day Adventism it is their founders who set the trend as far as Saturday observance goes. Visions and prophecies were claimed as proofs of the doctrine. But from the early centuries of the Christianity era Sunday has been the day that Christians observed for worship and rest.

Not from scripture. The first Church/Apostles kept every Sabbath Acts 13:44, Acts 13:42, Acts 18:4 and warned us what would happen after their death.Acts 20:29-30

 

[BobRyan]

What is more important?

Keeping the sabbath or believing in Our Lord Jesus Christ as Son of God and true messiah.

That's like saying "what is more important - not taking God's name in vain or believing in Jesus as Lord and Savior" -- it makes no sense.

Heb 8:6-12 informs us that Christ is the one speaking the TEN commandments where we find the Sabbath commandment.

Rejecting the Words of Christ - is not the primary way to "accept Christ"

The jews believe in the first but reject the second!

They accepted "do not take God's name in vain" but rejected Christ. And your point??
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The reason that Sunday-keeping Adventists became Seventh-day Adventists when the Seventh-day Baptists mentioned this topic to them is that opposing arguments against the Sabbath were not substantive as we can see on this thread.

 

[BobRyan]

For Seventh Day Adventism it is their founders who set the trend as far as Saturday observance goes.

false -- again.

It was Seventh-day Baptists that made the case to Sunday-keeping Adventists and in bible studies showed that the weak argument for Sunday was exactly as it is presented on this thread, very weak. And the Bible case for not editing one of the Commandments of God was as strong as it has been shown on this thread.

I notice you too have no Bible case being made in your post.

Visions and prophecies were claimed as proofs of the doctrine.

false -- again.

in fact Ellen White was not in favor of the change - but bible studies associated with the Seventh-day Baptist contacts with Sunday-keeping Adventists were compelling.

But from the early centuries of the Christianity era Sunday has been the day that Christians observed for worship and rest.

Try finding a Bible text saying "every week-day-1" they gathered for worship, for gospel preaching the way we see it being stated for the Sabbath in places like Acts 18:4

Try finding a text saying "week-day-1" is the Sabbath for Christians in the NT
Try finding a text saying "week-day-1 is the Lord's day" in the NT

We all know that if you had one you would post it.

No wonder the Catholic "Faith Explained" document admits to the same irrefutable fact in its chapter on the Sabbath.

Even they make it very clear that editing the Commandment of God to point to week-day-1 violates "Sola scriptura" testing. It is not in the Bible.

Apostolic NT writers knew nothing about that change.

 

[Lost4words]

Why does there have to be a choice? Believing in our Lord Jesus Christ means we would believe and have faith in what He teaches and commands us and do them. Rev 22:14

The Sabbath is more than just a day, it is a memorial that we worship the one true God of Creation Exodus 20:11, which is the same God of Judgement Rev 14:7. Only God can sanctify us because we cannot sanctify ourselves. Eze 20:12

Its a choice the Jews took. They chose the Sabbath over Our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Lost4words]

That's like saying "what is more important - not taking God's name in vain or believing in Jesus as Lord and Savior" -- it makes no sense.

Heb 8:6-12 informs us that Christ is the one speaking the TEN commandments where we find the Sabbath commandment.

Rejecting the Words of Christ - is not the primary way to "accept Christ"

They accepted "do not take God's name in vain" but rejected Christ. And your point??
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The reason that Sunday-keeping Adventists became Seventh-day Adventists when the Seventh-day Baptists mentioned this topic to them is that opposing arguments against the Sabbath were not substantive as we can see on this thread.

The point being, the sabbath is for the old covenant. Its what the Jews put above Jesus.

Sabbath for Christians is not like it is for the Jews. We celebrate Jesus and His resurrection.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Its a choice the Jews took. They chose the Sabbath over Our Lord Jesus Christ.

No, they choose keeping their traditions over the commandments of God Matthew 15:3-9 and they added to God's commandment Deut 4:2 which we are told not to. Subtracting from the commandments is just as grievous . Deut 4:2 because no one is above God and improve on His holy works Exodus 32:16

 

[Lost4words]

No, they choose keeping their traditions over the commandments of God Matthew 15:3-9 and they added to God's commandment Deut 4:2 which we are told not to. Subtracting from the commandments is just as grievous . Deut 4:2 because no one is above God and improve on His holy works Exodus 32:16

They didnt choose Jesus.

 

[ozso]

For Seventh Day Adventism it is their founders who set the trend as far as Saturday observance goes. Visions and prophecies were claimed as proofs of the doctrine. But from the early centuries of the Christianity era Sunday has been the

Not from scripture. The first Church/Apostles kept every Sabbath Acts 13:44, Acts 13:42, Acts 18:4 and warned us what would happen after their death.Acts 20:29-30

Alas for you that verse 28 shows the misuse of 29-30.

"28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,
which he bought with his own blood". Acts 20:28

That's the Apostolic Fathers Paul is talking about. Who were made overseers of the Church by the Holy Spirit, and whom you slander.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Alas for you that verse 28 shows the misuse of 29-30.

"28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,
which he bought with his own blood". Acts 20:28

That's the Apostolic Fathers Paul is talking about. Who were made overseers of the Church by the Holy Spirit, and whom you slander.

He’s warning us about the false worship that will happen after they leave.
Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

Jesus said false worship is keeping man’s traditions over the commandments of God
Matthew 15:9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”

He says contrasting it by keeping the commandments of God quoting right from the Ten where there is no editing Deut 4:2.

Jesus warns us a lot about false worship said it’s a huge problem as we see today. Most used to honor the Ten Commandments now most churches argue against keeping Gods holy law that is eternal. Mat 5:19 Rev 11;19

When His followers asked Jesus what would be the sign of His return- His first answer is this:

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.

This is about many who will be teaching in Christ name and will deceive many, which means most.

We are warned about this, the devil deceives the whole world, which is the majority Matthew 12:9 The devil also makes war with the true worshippers who keep God’s commandments Rev 12:17 so in the end it will come down to two groups. True worshipers and false worshipers. We decide which group we end up in.

Jesus already identified false worship and that is keeping mans rules above the commandments of God quoting from the Ten Matthew 15:3-9

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

What is the antidote for not worshipping the beast and instead having true worship? The next verse tells us....

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Jesus identified the commandment of God from the unit of Ten Matthew 15:3-9, the commandments God personally wrote and God spoke and are in His heavenly Temple Rev 11:19 unedited Deut 4:2 because man is not greater than God.

It's not just about the Sabbath commandment, it’s about obeying all of His commandments as a unit. Not to be saved, but because we love Jesus and He changes us from the inside and we want to obey through faith and love. 1 John 5:3 Romans 3:31

 

[SabbathBlessings]

They didnt choose Jesus.

Agreed, but we can choose differently and worship Him in Truth John 4:23-24 and all of His commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151 and not to be edited Deut 4:2 and comes with a warning of doing so Pro 30:5-6

 

[BobRyan]

The point being, the sabbath is for the old covenant. Its what the Jews

You can find the Covenant made with the Nation of Israel - the nation covenant - in Ex 20 where the "ark of the covenant" is later built and the tablets of stone that include "Do not take God's name in vain" are placed inside the ark.

Note to readers; we still have "do no take God's name in vain" as a commandment - and almost every Christian denomination on planet Earth today affirms all TEN of the TEN commandments.

The fact that Jews and Christians "do not take God's name in vain" does not mean "they put that above Jesus"

RATHER it means that they actually READ the New Covenant Jer 31:31-34 quoted verbatim in Heb 8.

31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

The NEW Covenant writes the moral law of God on the heart -- the moral law of God known to Jeremiah and his readers, the one that INCLUDES the TEN as Deut 5:22 points out "God spoke the TEN Commandments... and added no more"

Sabbath for Christians is not like it is for the Jews.

The Sabbath commandment for Christians is found in scripture.

IT is in Exodus 20 -- right after the command not to take God's name in vain.

Every Christian denomination on planet Earth quotes from Ex 20:8-11 when asked to quote the Sabbath commandment found in the Word of God - as given by God in the TEN.

We celebrate Jesus and His resurrection.

The Sabbath commandment does not mention in the resurrection in either NT or OT.

All references to the word "Sabbath" in the NT - as a weekly day of worship - are specifically talking about the 7th day - Saturday and every Christian denomination on planet Earth to day admits it.

 

[BobRyan]

In fact I quote it. Your distance from the text is not helping your case.

Your entire argument against the Bible Sabbath goes against the teaching of Christ in the case of Mark 7.

Mark 7:7-13

6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:​

‘This people honors Me with their lips,​

But their heart is far away from Me.​

7 And in vain do they worship Me,​

Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’​

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”​

Christ condemns them for the very thing you are arguing FOR in the case of the Sabbath commandment each time you say we need to edit/delete that part that is Ex 20:10 and Ex 20:11 from God's Commandment

9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”​

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That is devastating to your argument at we should be using tradition to edit/delete the Ex 20:10,11 text from the commandment since it specifies the dreaded "seventh day" and your wish is that it be removed from the commandment.

Indeed - he touches on the "Commandment of God" and condemns the idea of setting it aside via the "Traditions of man" -- the very thing you are arguing for .

Are we simply supposed to "not quote the text" (a you do) then ignore all the details in the text that you are skimming over?

Is that your "solution"?

So we are simply "Not supposed to notice"?

Please be serious.
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And in Matt 5 Jesus condemns those who argue that He is setting aside the Commandments.

Matt 5:17 “Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished! 19 Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

In Mark 2:23-28
1. The Sabbath was made FOR mankind
2. The Son of Man is LORD of the Sabbath (the LORD's Day)
3. vs 23 starts with the activity of David and no credible Bible scholar on Earth claims the Sabbath was not in full force at the time of David. And we all know it.
4. In Matt 12:5 the same account is reported and we see that Christ lumps in the work of PRIESTS on the Sabbath in with the disciples' activity of working with Christ to spread the gospel and picking a handful of wheat as they walk with Christ on Sabbath.
no credible Bible scholar on Earth claims the Sabbath was not in full force as soon as the priests did their first Sabbath service since that is work of the priests. And we all know it..

All Christian bible translations - have this text after vs 7 saying "do not take God's name in vain"

Ex 20:
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 For six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; on it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male slave or your female slave, or your cattle, or your resident who stays with you. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them, and He rested on the seventh day; for that reason the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.


All Christian bible translations - have this text for Gen 2:1-3
Genesis 2:
2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
No wonder the Word of God says that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23

No wonder the NT writers report "EVERY SABBATH" Gospel sermons Acts 18:4 to both gentiles and Jews and not one reference at all to "every week day 1 " Gospel sermons to gentiles and Jews

Expect those Bible details to be ignored.

 

[BobRyan]

You claim some do not exist - so go ahead and list some of the ones you would like to claim "do not exist" from the list in the link you said you looked at.

while we wait... we also have this - with links

List of Seventh-day Sabbath-keeping churches - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of churches and movements​

Sabbatarian Baptists

• Seventh Day Baptists

Sabbatarian Adventists

• Adventist Church of Promise
• Churches of God (Seventh-Day)
• Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
• Sabbath Rest Advent Church
• Seventh-day Adventist Church
• Seventh Day Adventist Reform Movement
  • International Missionary Society of Seventh-Day Adventist Church Reform Movement
  • True and Free Seventh-day Adventists
• Shepherd's Rod (Davidian Seventh-day Adventists)
• United Sabbath-Day Adventist Church
• United Seventh-Day Brethren

Sabbatarian Pentecostalists

• Nazareth Baptist Church
• Sabbatarian Pentecostalists, Ukraine, Oneness denomination, formed in the 1920s–1930s in the Western Ukraine, Poland
• Soldiers of the Cross Church
• True Jesus Church

Sabbatarian British Israelites / (Armstrongism)

• Church of God Assembly (CGA)
• Church of God: A Worldwide Association (COGWA)
• Church of God International (United States)
• Church of the Great God
• Church of God Preparing for the Kingdom of God
• Global Church of God
• House of Yahweh
• Intercontinental Church of God
• Living Church of God
• Philadelphia Church of God
• Restored Church of God
• United Church of God

Judaizers

• Assemblies of Yahweh
• Black Hebrew Israelites
  • African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem
  • Church of God and Saints of Christ
    • Church of God and Saints of Christ (Orthodox Christianity)
  • Commandment Keepers
• Hebrew Roots Movement
• Makuya
• Messianic Judaism, some Messianic Jews observe Shabbat on Saturdays[1]
• Sacred Name Movement
  • Yahweh's Assembly in Yahshua
• Subbotniks, the majority belonged to Rabbinic and Karaite Judaism, the minority to Christianity[2]
• Yehowists, a Russian Spiritual Christian millenarian movement founded in the 1840s

Others

• Church of Christ (Fettingite)
• TheMillennium
• The Christ's Assembly
• Church of Israel
• Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
• House of Aaron
• Evangelical Association of the Israelite Mission of the New Universal Covenant (AEMINPU)
• Jemaat Allah Global Indonesia (JAGI), internationally known as Unitarian Christian Church of Indonesia (UCCI), headquartered in Semarang, Central Java, Indonesia[3]
• Remnant Fellowship, headquartered in Brentwood, Tennessee and founded in 1999 by Gwen Shamblin Lara[4]
• The Seventh-day Remnant Church[5]
• World Mission Society Church of God
• Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland
• Ancient Foundations Bible Fellowship, Port Macquarie
• Founded in Truth Fellowship

Expect that list to be ignored

 

[Lost4words]

You can find the Covenant made with the Nation of Israel - the nation covenant - in Ex 20 where the "ark of the covenant" is later built and the tablets of stone that include "Do not take God's name in vain" are placed inside the ark.

Note to readers; we still have "do no take God's name in vain" as a commandment - and almost every Christian denomination on planet Earth today affirms all TEN of the TEN commandments.

The fact that Jews and Christians "do not take God's name in vain" does not mean "they put that above Jesus"

RATHER it means that they actually READ the New Covenant Jer 31:31-34 quoted verbatim in Heb 8.

31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

The NEW Covenant writes the moral law of God on the heart -- the moral law of God known to Jeremiah and his readers, the one that INCLUDES the TEN as Deut 5:22 points out "God spoke the TEN Commandments... and added no more"

The Sabbath commandment for Christians is found in scripture.

IT is in Exodus 20 -- right after the command not to take God's name in vain.

Every Christian denomination on planet Earth quotes from Ex 20:8-11 when asked to quote the Sabbath commandment found in the Word of God - as given by God in the TEN.



The Sabbath commandment does not mention in the resurrection in either NT or OT.

All references to the word "Sabbath" in the NT - as a weekly day of worship - are specifically talking about the 7th day - Saturday and every Christian denomination on planet Earth to day admits it.

All down to interpretation my friend.

But, whats more important is that we ALL believe in Jesus. Son of God.

God bless you

 

[pasifika]

You can find the Covenant made with the Nation of Israel - the nation covenant - in Ex 20 where the "ark of the covenant" is later built and the tablets of stone that include "Do not take God's name in vain" are placed inside the ark.

Note to readers; we still have "do no take God's name in vain" as a commandment - and almost every Christian denomination on planet Earth today affirms all TEN of the TEN commandments.

The fact that Jews and Christians "do not take God's name in vain" does not mean "they put that above Jesus"

RATHER it means that they actually READ the New Covenant Jer 31:31-34 quoted verbatim in Heb 8.

31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

The NEW Covenant writes the moral law of God on the heart -- the moral law of God known to Jeremiah and his readers, the one that INCLUDES the TEN as Deut 5:22 points out "God spoke the TEN Commandments... and added no more"

The Sabbath commandment for Christians is found in scripture.

IT is in Exodus 20 -- right after the command not to take God's name in vain.

Every Christian denomination on planet Earth quotes from Ex 20:8-11 when asked to quote the Sabbath commandment found in the Word of God - as given by God in the TEN.



The Sabbath commandment does not mention in the resurrection in either NT or OT.

All references to the word "Sabbath" in the NT - as a weekly day of worship - are specifically talking about the 7th day - Saturday and every Christian denomination on planet Earth to day admits it.

Putting law and writing them in our hearts is literal language but it's about God putting His Spirit in our minds and our hearts. Not physically writing anything on our hearts etc. E.g. 2 Corins 3:3..You are a letter from Christ, the results of our ministry, written not with ink, but Spirit of the living God, Not on "tablets of stones" But on tablets of human hearts...

 

[BobRyan]

Putting law and writing them in our hearts is literal language

In any case Jer 31:31-34 makes it clear that it is God's Law that is written (no matter how you wish to redefine where or how He writes it on the person's heart). Exegesis demands that we accept the meaning of the term "My Law" in Jer 31 for the New Covenant as Jeremiah and his readers would have known the term.

Hence Deut 5:22 "He spoke these TEN... and added NO more" is helpful in understanding that instead of the ten most certainly NOT in God's commandments - it turns out - they most certainly ARE.

So then "do not take God's name in vain" remains.

but it's about God putting His Spirit in our minds and our hearts. Not physically writing anything on our hearts etc. E.g. 2 Corins 3:3..You are a letter from Christ, the results of our ministry, written not with ink, but Spirit of the living God, Not on "tablets of stones" But on tablets of human hearts...

amen. But the issue is the term "Law" as Jeremiah and his readers would have known it - to get the right intended meaning of the text.

 

[BobRyan]

All down to interpretation my friend.

Exegesis demands that we accept (rather than reject or simply "ignore") the meaning of the term as intended by the writer for his readers in Jer 31:31-34 -- when we talk about the NEW Covenant.

Exegesis demands that we accept the meaning of the term "My Law" in Jer 31 for the New Covenant as Jeremiah and his readers would have known the term.
Hence Deut 5:22 "He spoke these TEN... and added NO more" is helpful in understanding that instead of the ten most certainly NOT in God's commandments - it turns out - they most certainly ARE.
So then "do not take God's name in vain" remains.

 

[pasifika]

So,

In any case Jer 31:31-34 makes it clear that it is God's Law that is written (no matter how you wish to redefine where or how He writes it on the person's heart). Exegesis demands that we accept the meaning of the term "My Law" in Jer 31 for the New Covenant as Jeremiah and his readers would have known the term.

Hence Deut 5:22 "He spoke these TEN... and added NO more" is helpful in understanding that instead of the ten most certainly NOT in God's commandments - it turns out - they most certainly ARE.

So then "do not take God's name in vain" remains.

amen. But the issue is the term "Law" as Jeremiah and his readers would have known it - to get the right intended meaning of the text.

So, is 2Corinthians 3:3 is not clear to you, how Paul used the OC law (ie 10 commandments on tablets of stones to mean the Spirit of God on human hearts)?. In the same way as temple, sacrifice, of the OT they all point to spiritual realities, ie All point to Christ.

Only Christ fulfilled "don't take God's name in vain", since he never broke any commandments.

 

[BobRyan]

So,
So, is 2Corinthians 3:3 is not clear to you, how Paul used the OC law (ie 10 commandments on tablets of stones to mean the Spirit of God on human hearts)?. In the same way as temple, sacrifice, of the OT they all point to spiritual realities, ie All point to Christ.

Sacrifices use animals as symbols for the sacrifice of Christ. We can all see that.
But "do not take God's name in vain" is not a "Shadow" command that needs to be deleted when Jesus dies on the cross.

This is true with all of the TEN.

2Cor 3
2 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all people, 3 revealing yourselves, that you are a letter of Christ, delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

Points to the same "Law of God written on the heart" that we see in Rom 2:13-16 and in the New Covenant in Jer 31:31-34

Only Christ fulfilled "don't take God's name in vain"

Only He was perfect - but all mankind is still obligated not to take God's name in vain.
Wholesale rebellion against God's Word is not the goal of Christ's death on the cross.

 

[BobRyan]

I don't know of even one NT text that says
1. We meet every week-day-1 to celebrate the resurrection
2. We met one time on week-day-1 to celebrate the resurrection
3. We meet every week-day-1 for worship in honor of the resurrection
4. We meet on week-day-1 instead of the 7th day - after the cross

So far not a single person posting against the Bible Sabbath on this thread - has found one of those texts and posted here. I guess we need to "Wait"