Non believers on a Christian forum

[Paidiske]

Both of you are amazing!!

Really? Granted salmon's expensive and not something most people would eat every day, but cooking from scratch is a pretty normal thing to do here. Is it not so much where you are?

 

[Occams Barber]

I'm not really a fan of salmon, although I have found a recipe for blackberry-glazed salmon that I consider edible in a pinch.

I'm planning ragu and risotto for dinner. If this isn't the weather for it, I don't know what is!

I really like fish food. I would eat two or three main (evening) meals based on various fish, shellfish, tuna, crabmeat, prawns etc. Although I sometimes fiddle with marinades, my standard goto is lemon juice and (lots of) garlic. I even found a vac packed version of clam chowder (complete with shells) in my local Woollies.

Never tried cooking risotto - probably because I'm not that big on rice.

OB

 

[Occams Barber]

Is it midnight yet ob?

Right now its 5.17pm on Wednesday, 5th of July,

Both of you are amazing!!

I cook everything for myself, and I use a lot of veg, mainly raw in salads. To me this is normal, and no, I'm not a chef or even a particularly good cook.

I can't recall the last time I bought a pre-cooked meal or a takeaway. I know my kids are the same.

Americans seem to do a lot of takeaway food.

Gotta go and cook dinner.

OB

 

[OldAbramBrown]

... do me the courtesy of making sensible statements which have meaning outside of your Christian bubble.

OB

Bravo. As a believer (and I call myself a believing agnostic) I always reword everything to highlight the sense (as I see it) yet other churchgoers go bananas because I don't pull the same strings of words out of my mouth as them as if we were Punch and Judy and the crocodile.

 

[returntosender]

Right now its 5.17pm on Wednesday, 5th of July,


I cook everything for myself, and I use a lot of veg, mainly raw in salads. To me this is normal, and no, I'm not a chef or even a particularly good cook.

I can't recall the last time I bought a pre-cooked meal or a takeaway. I know my kids are the same.

Americans seem to do a lot of takeaway food.

Gotta go and cook dinner.

OB

So your children have that food also?

Really? Granted salmon's expensive and not something most people would eat every day, but cooking from scratch is a pretty normal thing to do here. Is it not so much where you are?

Not for me anyway. In my younger days i cooked all the time. Have to feed the kids. Now i have food delivered but seldom cook a meal. Usually a one course meal . Im not much for salmon either. Never had exotic like ob.

 

[Paidiske]

I'm time poor and our household is fairly disorganised, so there's more take away here than I consider ideal. But both the other half and I are reasonable home cooks (certainly not accomplished chefs or anything), and I'd say dinner is cooked by one or the other of us about six days a week on average. We do tend to do a fair bit of bulk cooking and reheating, though; so for example the ragu will do us for three nights or so.

Risotto is a bit fiddly to cook; once you've got the pot on the stove you have to keep stirring pretty much constantly till it's done. But done well, it can be worth it!

 

[returntosender]

Is it midnight yet ob?

I guess i didn't understand.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

I don’t I ever really believed in the claims of the Bible. I’m nearly 50.

the Bible doesn't make claims - it alludes. teachers are supposed to teach teachings - if they know them

 

[returntosender]

I always expect the older people to be believers because they're supposed to be wise

 

[OldAbramBrown]

... were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Seeing as almost all churches and religious teachers do not tell us what this means (because they don't want badly enough to know so that they could teach), it's no wonder we spit them out.

 

[returntosender]

I wonder if a non believer loved a believer and she or he, died would he or she move to be a Christian to be with her or him in heaven? My supervisor really loved his wife. She was christian and she died. He didn't convert while she was alive so i hope he did before he died. He killed himself. He wasn't a atheist i don't think.

 

[returntosender]

The key part of my statement was " if you are going to respond (to me)".

Christians are free to use Christian jargon expressing Christian morals on a Christian Forum. In this case the reply was specifically directed to me - a non-Christian and was phrased in cryptic Christianese. This is something I see regularly on CF where Christians, replying to non-Christians, drop vague Christian truisms. Apart from not providing a sensible response, these sayings act as shield protecting Christians from providing sensible, justified answers.

OB

I can't find your bubble comment so here is my reply:
Christians aren't supposed to be outside the bubble cuz then they would be in the world where you are

 

[Occams Barber]

I'm time poor and our household is fairly disorganised, so there's more take away here than I consider ideal. But both the other half and I are reasonable home cooks (certainly not accomplished chefs or anything), and I'd say dinner is cooked by one or the other of us about six days a week on average. We do tend to do a fair bit of bulk cooking and reheating, though; so for example the ragu will do us for three nights or so.

Risotto is a bit fiddly to cook; once you've got the pot on the stove you have to keep stirring pretty much constantly till it's done. But done well, it can be worth it!

My older son rang me in the middle of all this. Somewhere in the conversation cooking came up - for two adults and three kids. He mentioned pork medallions as good value and good eating - even for a little (5 yo) kid.

I occasionally buy them, Clean (no fat) tender meat- a bit bland but responds well to sauces etc.

OB

 

[Occams Barber]

So your children have that food also?

My children are in their forties, They eat whatever they want to eat. Basically they cook or prepare the meals for themselves and their kids (my grandkids). Takeaway is unusual as are pre-prepared meals. The demand for pork medallions mentioned above came from the (grand) kids sampling in Auldi.

Not for me anyway. In my younger days i cooked all the time. Have to feed the kids. Now i have food delivered but seldom cook a meal. Usually a one course meal . Im not much for salmon either. Never had exotic like ob.

I have trouble understanding why you wouldn't cook for the kids. Salmon is hardly 'exotic'.

OB

 

[Paidiske]

Actually, OB, I might disagree with you about whether salmon is exotic.

You may know my parish runs a food bank; and we get a lot of food donations from other organisations. Recently we had a whole bunch of fresh salmon fillets donated (don't ask me why, I don't know the back story).

Couldn't give them away. Food bank clients looked at me apprehensively and said, "I don't know how to cook that," "I wouldn't know what to do with that." We ended up sending a lot of the fillets home with volunteers who couldn't believe their luck, rather than throw them away.

For a lot of people, something like a simple salmon fillet is well outside their experience, either of cooking or eating.

 

[Larniavc]

It's mid-Winter.

Where I live it's 22 Celsius (71 degrees Fahrenheit) today. That's about as cold as it normally gets during the day.

Some people are actually wearing shoes to the supermarket.

OB

Crikey. 22 in summer is uncomfortably hot in summer for this Brit.

 

[Larniavc]

I really like fish food. I would eat two or three main (evening) meals based on various fish, shellfish, tuna, crabmeat, prawns etc. Although I sometimes fiddle with marinades, my standard goto is lemon juice and (lots of) garlic. I even found a vac packed version of clam chowder (complete with shells) in my local Woollies.

Never tried cooking risotto - probably because I'm not that big on rice.

OB

Mussels in white wine sauce is an all time favourite for me. With olive bread.

Now I’m extra hungry!

 

[Larniavc]

the Bible doesn't make claims

It does. Everything it states is a claim. How can it not be?

 

[Larniavc]

I wonder if a non believer loved a believer and she or he, died would he or she move to be a Christian to be with her or him in heaven?

Belief is not something you can decide to do for utilitarian reasons. My Nan was a Christian but her being dead does not impact on my views about the claims of the Bible re: living forever in Heaven.

How could it? The evidence for a continuation after death in the Biblical sense does not become more plausible because I have a reason to want it to be true.

I’d dearly love to see her again but don’t see any evidence to suggest that that will happen: wanting it to happen does not change that for me.

Does that make sense?

 

[AV1611VET]

Seeing as almost all churches and religious teachers do not tell us what this means (because they don't want badly enough to know so that they could teach), it's no wonder we spit them out.

You can't spit out what you don't have.