Is There A Universal Truth?

[Stephen3141]

Is There A Universal Truth? Of course there is! It's called Morality!

God is Morality! Every sentence, every word, or anything that anyone can try and debate against me about, is only possible, do to God. Please keep that in mind!

It doesn't matter your race: black/white. It doesn't matter your age: old/young. It doesn't matter your sex: male/female. It doesn't matter your political affiliation and how you vote: democrat/republican. It doesn't matter your beliefs: God/other. It doesn't matter where you're from: Asia, Australia, North America, South America, Africa, Europe, Antarctica.

Morality is a certain set of rules, that applies to everyone accross the board. Or at least it does in my mind. Rules like: Though shall not kill/this include abortion. There is 1 universal truth accross thee board, that applies, or at least should apply to all of us!!!!

Any political party, or person or thing out in the World that says that there are different rules for different people, don't believe in God. It's as simple as that. And more than likely, those people or groups of people, are trying to take God out of the equation within their Country. Or! They already have!!!

I think that you are asserting that there is universal truth.

Saying that there is 1 universal truth, is very confused language.

 

[timothyu]

If God shows His will, man will make it over in our own image.

 

[Stephen3141]

I think that you are asserting that there is universal truth.

Saying that there is 1 universal truth, is very confused language.

If someone answers "Yes", then they are asserting that there is universal truth.
If someone answers "No", than they are asserting that there is (a different) universal truth.

The only possibility for there NOT to be a universal truth, is if someone asserts "There IS a universal truth", but they are mistaken.
(But, then THIS must be a universal truth!)

I think that it is more practical to ask "Do we live AS IF there were universal truths?"
The answer to that is, "YES".
And the Bible also asserts that we live in a shared reality, that we can observe, and can think about, and from which we can derive universal truths.

 

[Stephen3141]

If someone answers "Yes", then they are asserting that there is universal truth.
If someone answers "No", than they are asserting that there is (a different) universal truth.

The only possibility for there NOT to be a universal truth, is if someone asserts "There IS a universal truth", but they are mistaken.
(But, then THIS must be a universal truth!)

I think that it is more practical to ask "Do we live AS IF there were universal truths?"
The answer to that is, "YES".
And the Bible also asserts that we live in a shared reality, that we can observe, and can think about, and from which we can derive universal truths.

By the way, a machine that can put out a number of different "answers", is different than a mind that has free will. A pair of dices can put out different answers, when thrown. A random number generator can put out different answers, when run. A computer program can choose to put out one of many possible answers, when run. But we do not consider these "tools" to be conscious, or to have "free will".

 

[fhansen]

Is There A Universal Truth? Of course there is! It's called Morality!

God is Morality! Every sentence, every word, or anything that anyone can try and debate against me about, is only possible, do to God. Please keep that in mind!

It doesn't matter your race: black/white. It doesn't matter your age: old/young. It doesn't matter your sex: male/female. It doesn't matter your political affiliation and how you vote: democrat/republican. It doesn't matter your beliefs: God/other. It doesn't matter where you're from: Asia, Australia, North America, South America, Africa, Europe, Antarctica.

Morality is a certain set of rules, that applies to everyone accross the board. Or at least it does in my mind. Rules like: Though shall not kill/this include abortion. There is 1 universal truth accross thee board, that applies, or at least should apply to all of us!!!!

Any political party, or person or thing out in the World that says that there are different rules for different people, don't believe in God. It's as simple as that. And more than likely, those people or groups of people, are trying to take God out of the equation within their Country. Or! They already have!!!

Perhaps it'd be more precise to say that God is love-and morality flows from that. Otherwise morality can be rules only. IOW, to the extent the we fulfil the greatest commandments, the others are fulfilled ipso facto, God's way.

 

[timothyu]

Perhaps it'd be more precise to say that God is love-and morality flows from that. Otherwise morality can be rules only. IOW, to the extent the we fulfil the greatest commandments, the others are fulfilled ipso facto, God's way.

Problem is that man represents a greater truth in that we are backwards thinkers, pursuing for the moist part, self rather than others, contrary to God's will.

 

[grasping the after wind]

The word "slavery," in the Bible doesn't mean the same as slavery of blacks in America.

People who owed a debt to another person had to work it off and were called slaves.

What debt did the Israelites owe that caused them to be enslaved as a people? What debt did the many Celtic, and Germanic slaves incur prior to being enslaved by the Romans? I believe the word slave in the Bible is not as precise in meaning as you contend. It is true that the Bible does not use a different word for slave and indentured servant, but it is not true that before 1619, all those called slaves were really indentured servants. There is very little difference between the plight of the African American slaves in the US and the vast majority of people that have been called slaves over the course of human history. That would include the African slaves that remained in Africa and were not sold to the European slave traders.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

What debt did the Israelites owe that caused them to be enslaved as a people? What debt did the many Celtic, and Germanic slaves incur prior to being enslaved by the Romans? I believe the word slave in the Bible is not as precise in meaning as you contend. It is true that the Bible does not use a different word for slave and indentured servant, but it is not true that before 1619, all those called slaves were really indentured servants. There is very little difference between the plight of the African American slaves in the US and the vast majority of people that have been called slaves over the course of human history. That would include the African slaves that remained in Africa and were not sold to the European slave traders.

Slaves became known as people who were indentured or who owed a debt. The word in the Bible has multiple meanings.

FYI Israeli's owned slaves during the time of Abram as his wife Sarai who could not get pregnant, gave her Egyptian servant girl,
or slave Hagar to her husband Abram, who impregnated her, and she gave birth to a son, Ishmael. See Genesis 16-18

Also keep in mind that slavery existed in every culture at one time or another. It wasn't until the West rejected the
slave trade and slavery that it ended here. Many white men in the West and the USA died to end slavery.

Today,, there is still slavery in the world and in Africa there are blacks who have
black slaves.

 

[timothyu]

People with ideas will always assume there will be others to do the actual work.

 

[fhansen]

Problem is that man represents a greater truth in that we are backwards thinkers, pursuing for the moist part, self rather than others, contrary to God's will.

Yes-and that's why we need grace, why we need God, 'apart from whom we can do nothing' but 'with whom all things are possible'. Love is not only possible for man but it's our purpose, our telos. Fortunately God is patient in this work which must begin in this life, but fully completed in the next life.

 

[timothyu]

Yes-and that's why we need grace, why we need God, 'apart from whom we can do nothing' but 'with whom all things are possible'. Love is not only possible for man but it's our purpose, our telos. Fortunately God is patient in this work which must begin in this life, but fully completed in the next life.

True but it doesn't relieve us of our responsibility to reject our culture for God's counter-culture.

 

[fhansen]

True but it doesn't relieve us of our responsibility to reject our culture for God's counter-culture.

To begin to love as God does is to reject our culture-to put God's way ahead of man's way.

 

[Stephen3141]

If you say "There are no universal truths"
then that is a universal truth that you are asserting.