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Some wrong ideas about life

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Got it.

Guilty until proven innocent ... right?

We're all born sinners, so let's just all line up to be aborted.

Don't just abort some - abort them all.

No, there is no guilt before innocence. The innocence starts when a person becomes able to choose between obedience and disobedience.
 
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No, there is no guilt before innocence. The innocence starts when a person becomes able to choose between obedience and disobedience.

No, it doesn't.
 
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No thank you.

Abort is murder.

Enough said.

It is not enough said until you answer my question exactly as I told you to.

Abortion is only murder in countries that ban it, which exclude the United States.
 
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No, it doesn't.

Do you ever say flowers are innocent? Do you ever say mushrooms are innocent? Do you ever say bacteria are innocent:?

Or do you only say unborn humans are innocent for the sole purpose of shoving anti-choice views down my throat?
 
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It is not enough said until you answer my question exactly as I told you to.

Abortion is only murder in countries that ban it, which exclude the United States.

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Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Have you seen my post, where I equated abortion with Moloch?
 
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Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Have you seen my post, where I equated abortion with Moloch?

Have fun sitting in a prison cell because men made up laws that are contrary to God then.

Your whole life will be ruined if you only obey God and not man.

Jesus even taught us to obey our "leaders" referring to kings and dictators.
 
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Do you ever say flowers are innocent? Do you ever say mushrooms are innocent? Do you ever say bacteria are innocent:?

Or do you only say unborn humans are innocent for the sole purpose of shoving anti-choice views down my throat?

If they're not innocent, then what are they guilty of?

And it it's the sin of Adam ... which it is ... then we're ALL guilty ... which we are.

And if it's okay to abort a fetus because he has a sin nature, then why aren't we ALL aborted?
 
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And if it's okay to abort a fetus because he has a sin nature, then why aren't we ALL aborted?
That's a good question. I guess it comes down to if they are wanted or not.
 
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That's a good question. I guess it comes down to if they are wanted or not.

If you murder someone because you don't want them around, then have you ever considered who doesn't want YOU around?

What goes around, comes around, doesn't it?
 
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If they're not innocent, then what are they guilty of?

And it it's the sin of Adam ... which it is ... then we're ALL guilty ... which we are.

And if it's okay to abort a fetus because he has a sin nature, then why aren't we ALL aborted?

They are neither guilty nor innocent.

You ignored the part I posted about not all unborn humans having blood. If we are going by "innocent blood," it must be okay to abort a zygote, blastocyst, or young embryo because none of them have blood.
 
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That's a good question. I guess it comes down to if they are wanted or not.

No, it comes down to their ability to have a good quality of life and serve God. I am specifically talking about a girl who had no chance of doing anything for anybody or live an extended period of time; a girl who would never be able to know, love, and serve Jesus. She was just existing as another person on an already-overpopulated planet, with no way to end her suffering before death. And her mother and grandmother were suffering a lot too because they had to take care of a fatally defective child nonstop for about two years. Plus, there is the financial issue. Imagine being unable to pay a ton of very high hospital bills for that girl. Her mother still would have had every reason to get an abortion even if she was not a rape victim in high school. Many women choose abortion of fatally defective babies even if they had consensual sex with their husbands.

I know millions of anti-choicers oppose abortion because they expect every zygote to become a servant of God, despite the biological, legal, and social facts against that claim. If that is their reason to oppose abortion, they need to explain why it was a good thing that all fatally defective children are forced to suffer constantly during very short lives in some states such as Alabama even when everyone involved knows what will happen long before the mother's due date.
 
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I know millions of anti-choicers oppose abortion because they expect every zygote to become a servant of God,

Whether they expect it or not, abortion is murder.

And changing "child in the womb" to "zygote" is an academic ploy that might help you make the dean's list; but it doesn't cut it with God.
 
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They are neither guilty nor innocent.

You ignored the part I posted about not all unborn humans having blood. If we are going by "innocent blood," it must be okay to abort a zygote, blastocyst, or young embryo because none of them have blood.

A zygote, blastocyst, or young embryo?

What happened to "child in the womb"?
 
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If you murder someone because you don't want them around, then have you ever considered who doesn't want YOU around?

What goes around, comes around, doesn't it?
Hey, I was just answering you question. Christians seem to think people are born bad. That makes no sense to me. But if you honestly think all humans are bad why do you want more of them?
 
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Christians seem to think people are born bad. That makes no sense to me.

Try using the word the Bible uses, instead of what you would learn in college, and you might understand.

Try saying people are born "sinners" -- not people are born "bad" -- and that should help.

When I was growing up, I learned we were all born sinners.

Then came all this collegiate nonsense, where they started teaching one should NEVER tell a child he is [insert negative word here], or it will stunt his psyche.

God's terminology is always better.
 
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Whether they expect it or not, abortion is murder.

And changing "child in the womb" to "zygote" is an academic ploy that might help you make the dean's list; but it doesn't cut it with God.

There is no such thing as a child in the womb. Zygote, blastocyst, embryo, and fetus are the only accurate terms for any unborn mammal, including humans.

Abortion is only murder in countries that ban it. The United States is not one of them.

If you are totally unwilling to accept these two extremely obvious scientific and legal facts, you don't care about the girls and women carrying them. You want female people to suffer the rest of their lives for no good reason despite the fact that is 100% unbiblical.
 
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