Jehovah vs Yahweh

[RileyG]

What are your thoughts on the two names of God? I always thought "Jehovah" was the mistranslation of YHWH, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong. There is no J in Hebrew.

 

[Neogaia777]

What are your thoughts on the two names of God? I always thought "Jehovah" was the mistranslation of YHWH, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong. There is no J in Hebrew.

It's the "tetragrammoton" either way.

There is no correct translation in any language of that name, etc.

Which is why it is replaced with "Lord" in many translations, besides the ancient Jews/Israelites thinking it was too holy, etc.

God Bless.

 

[HTacianas]

What are your thoughts on the two names of God? I always thought "Jehovah" was the mistranslation of YHWH, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong. There is no J in Hebrew.

You're right that there is no "J" in Hebrew. Neither is there the sound that J makes. That pretty much rules out Jehovah. But if you look to some Jewish/Hebrew/Israeli names in modern times it helps shed some light on it. Take Benjamin Netanyahu for example. Also Joshua from the old testament, or Yahshua actually. That was also Jesus's name direct to English. Somewhere along those lines is likely the answer but no one knows for sure.

 

[Neogaia777]

Some also think that the W in YHWH should also be a V also, etc, either way the correct pronunciation and exact sound of that name and how it is actually supposed to be pronounced has probably been lost to the ages long, long ago now, etc.

But, do you know that each individual holy angel also carries that name, etc?

But there is more that is added to it of course, and it never just stands alone when it is a holy angel, etc.

Which leads me to believe that this is much more specific maybe, and maybe a much more limited version of the name maybe, etc? But also that they are all YHWH, etc, or are all YHWH's, etc.

Much maybe like we have specialists today maybe? But specialists that don't know, or don't cover it all in all areas by any means, etc.

They are said to be individual members of His (God's) body, so why wouldn't they also carry the name, etc?

Also makes me think about us getting new names, and how our names are changed in Heaven, etc. And also Jesus new, or true name, etc. You know, the one spoken about when he comes back that no one knows but himself, etc.

Anyway, it's something I have thought of, and have been thinking about, etc?

God Bless.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You're right that there is no "J" in Hebrew. Neither is there the sound that J makes. That pretty much rules out Jehovah. But if you look to some Jewish/Hebrew/Israeli names in modern times it helps shed some light on it. Take Benjamin Netanyahu for example. Also Joshua from the old testament, or Yahshua actually. That was also Jesus's name direct to English. Somewhere along those lines is likely the answer but no one knows for sure.

No names in Hebrew begin with the theophoric suffix YaH...they end with it as "Yahu". Anyway, YaH is a poetic abbreviation of The Name. Yahshua is incorrect. Yeshua is correct...from YeHoshua...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What are your thoughts on the two names of God? I always thought "Jehovah" was the mistranslation of YHWH, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong. There is no J in Hebrew.

YHVH. vav is Hebrew...waw is Arabic.

 

[Neogaia777]

Which matters more or most when using or calling upon a name?

Getting the sound exactly right, or what is in your mind and heart when you are saying it?

God Bless.

 

[Neogaia777]

Which matters more or most when using or calling upon a name?

Getting the sound exactly right, or what is in your mind and heart when you are saying it?

God Bless.

And what about people of limited understanding, can they still call upon God and He hear them?

God Bless.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

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[Neogaia777]

Or what if you don't have what is in your mind and heart correct, but are using the right name phonetically?

God Bless.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Yah-Hov-Vah.
Yesh-hue-Ah (Jesus/Joshua)

 

[Maria Billingsley]

What are your thoughts on the two names of God? I always thought "Jehovah" was the mistranslation of YHWH, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong. There is no J in Hebrew.

I AM , aka YHWH, is the name given to reveal His eternal nature. Jehovah is the same in Latin. Blessings.

 

[RileyG]

You're right that there is no "J" in Hebrew. Neither is there the sound that J makes. That pretty much rules out Jehovah. But if you look to some Jewish/Hebrew/Israeli names in modern times it helps shed some light on it. Take Benjamin Netanyahu for example. Also Joshua from the old testament, or Yahshua actually. That was also Jesus's name direct to English. Somewhere along those lines is likely the answer but no one knows for sure.

Yes. I understand Jesus is Greek for Joshua and Jesus' name on earth was Yeshuah.

 

[RileyG]

It's my understanding that Jehovah is a mixture between the vowels of YHWH and Adonai. J is used for the Y sound. That's what I learned in my OT course several years ago. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ViaCrucis]

It's my understanding that Jehovah is a mixture between the vowels of YHWH and Adonai. J is used for the Y sound. That's what I learned in my OT course several years ago. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

That's the generally agreed upon theory.

From what I can tell based on what I've read and through my cursory looking around, is that the oldest attested use of "Jehovah" is from the 13th century, where we find the use of Iehoua in Latin, and Anglicized by William Tyndale as Iehouah. With the advent of 'J' and standardizing and differentiating 'U' and 'V' gives us with the modern Anglicized "Jehovah".

And it's true, if we take the letters of the Tetragrammaton and use the niqqud for Adonai, we get Ye*HoVaH, which would be Latinized as Iehoua/Iehova.

*The vowelization of the niqqud here would be an "a" sound following a glottal consonant, which is the case for Adonai; but an "e" for other consnants, such as the Yod in the Tetragrammaton. Thus YeHoVaH rather than YaHoVaH.

Jehovah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

-CryptoLutheran

 

[RileyG]

That's the generally agreed upon theory.

From what I can tell based on what I've read and through my cursory looking around, is that the oldest attested use of "Jehovah" is from the 13th century, where we find the use of Iehoua in Latin, and Anglicized by William Tyndale as Iehouah. With the advent of 'J' and standardizing and differentiating 'U' and 'V' gives us with the modern Anglicized "Jehovah".

And it's true, if we take the letters of the Tetragrammaton and use the vowelizations for Adonai, we get Ye/aHoVaH, which would be Latinized as Iehoua/Iehova.

-CryptoLutheran

Thanks for the information!

 

[RileyG]

I wish I could retain everything I learned in college. I do not think my brain is large enough Thanks everyone for contributing to this thread!

 

[RileyG]

Which matters more or most when using or calling upon a name?

Getting the sound exactly right, or what is in your mind and heart when you are saying it?

God Bless.

God's name is holy. We cannot misuse it.

 

[Neogaia777]

God's name is holy. We cannot misuse it.

The only thing we can really do, is not have the right kinds of thoughts or feelings or intentions in our mind and heart towards Him when we do call upon Him, or use His name.

God Bless.

 

[Neogaia777]

God's name is holy. We cannot misuse it.

But yes, "Holy" is probably one of the very best things, or single word/Word we can call Him, etc.

Like God the "Holy" "Spirit", etc.

It's one of the best descriptions we can probably use probably to give us the right idea about Him in our mind and heart when we call on Him, or use His name, etc.

All three are Holy, God the Father, God the Son, and God the "Holy" Spirit, for it is something They all share in common that distinguishes Them from all the others, who cannot be Holy in and of themselves, etc.

God Bless.