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Why the weekly Sabbath (Saturday) is the Lord's Day, in the Bible

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So you are for selling poor thieves?
I don't steal, which is the condition if you were to read the scripture. You seem to be falling into the trap of trying to pit scripture against scripture, if you don't keep x y z law than why do I need to keep the Ten Commandments despite scripture stating we do in the New Covenant.

The question again is where is the scripture that says the Ten Commandments are not included in God's law? If you can please point to this scripture please.
 
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I don't steal, which is the condition if you were to read the scripture. You seem to be falling into the trap of trying to pit scripture against scripture, if you don't keep x y z law than why do I need to keep the Ten Commandments despite scripture stating we do in the New Covenant.
Do you uphold this law?

Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Ex 21:20
 
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Do you uphold this law?

Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Ex 21:20
I will answer after you answer the question I keep asking...

The question again is where is the scripture that says the Ten Commandments are not included in God's law? If you can please point to this scripture please.
 
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I will answer after you answer the question I keep asking...

The question again is where is the scripture that says the Ten Commandments are not included in God's law? If you can please point to this scripture please.
Your question is nonsensical, I did not say that the ten commandments are not part of the Mosaic law.

I am asking why you ignore the laws you do not like, if you try to make us believe these laws are still valid.
 
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Your question is nonsensical, I am not the one you limits the law to just few commandments.
Well if that's the case than I assume by your answer you confirm the Ten Commandment, because yes, it is nonsensical to say God's commandments is not part of God's law thus why there is no scripture reference. Thanks
 
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Well if that's the case than I assume by your answer you confirm the Ten Commandment, because yes, it is nonsensical to say God's commandments is not part of God's law. Thanks
No, I do not confirm them. I say they belong to the Mosaic Law, with hundreds of other commandments.
 
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No, I do not confirm them. I say they belong to the Mosaic Law, with hundreds of other commandments.
Well prove it through scripture that the Ten Commandment is not part of God's law that we do not need to keep.
 
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It seems to me you do not understand English.
I see a lot of deflection in your posts, I am asking you to prove your statement through scripture. You said the Ten Commandments is not part of the law, I have proved through NT scriptures that it is. Anyway, I am not interested in continuing unless you would like to provide scripture to make your case.
 
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Give me the number of the post.
Are you claiming the Ten Commandments is now part of God's law? Well is starts at post #386 and goes form there but I am not interested in rehashing. If you wish to talk scripture, let me know otherwise I am bowing out.
 
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Are you claiming the Ten Commandments is now part of God's law? Well is starts at post #386 and goes form there but I am not interested in rehashing. If you wish to talk scripture, let me know otherwise I am bowing out.
The post #386 is not saying the ten commandments are not part of the law.

The post is a question towards you, why do you change the text "we uphold the law" to mean only "we uphold the ten commandments" and ignore the hundreds of other commandments in the law.
 
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The post #386 is not saying the ten commandments are not part of the law.

The post is a question towards you, why do you change the text "we uphold the law" to mean only "we uphold the ten commandments" and ignore the hundreds of other commandments in the law.
I have stated repeatedly, the Ten Commandments is not the "only law" but the Ten Commandments are most certainly included in God's law. You state the law excludes the Ten Commandments and I asked you to provide scripture to prove that....
 
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You do not understand English. Or logic.
Well its one or the other and previously you stated...
No, I do not confirm them. I say they belong to the Mosaic Law, with hundreds of other commandments.
So are you stating the Ten Commandments are not part of God's law, its one or the other- its either God's law or is not and I asked you to prove your statement from scripture.

The Ten Commandments are standalone commandments in a unit of Ten written personally by God and while its part of the Mosaic law, which they honored and kept, it is on a different foundation and is what is inside the ark of the covenant in the Most Holy of God's Temple, which the earthy temple was just an exact replica of the heavenly temple, meaning the Ten Commandments are in heaven Revelation 11:19 so how could they ever not be binding or part of God's eternal law?

God identifies the Ten Commandments as My commandments right in the Ten Exodus 20:6 so every time in both Old and New Testament you see My commandments or His commandments, they most certainly include the Ten. I asked you to disprove the Ten are not part of God's law being referenced in Romans 3:31 and it should be easy if there is scripture that states so...
 
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So are you stating the Ten Commandments are not part of God's law, its one or the other- its either God's law or is not and I asked you to prove your statement from scripture.
Your logic is failing.

I do not confirm the ten commandment because I do not confirm the law to be for us (or for anybody, today, Jews included).

The ten commandments and other commandments are part of the Mosaic Law, you cannot separate them, its one legal covenant.

The Ten Commandments are standalone commandments...
This is based upon a vision of Ellen White. Not interested.
 
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So whenever you are to be consistent and accept your view about law being for us, you make the law to mean only 10 commandments, because you do not like the rest.

Without any objective reason whatsoever.
Bingo.
 
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Your logic is failing.

I do not confirm the ten commandment because I do not confirm the law to be for us (or for anybody, today, Jews included).
Prove it through scripture. Who wrote the Ten Commandments? Who wrote the law of Moses? Who separated the Ten Commandments from the law of Moses- God did Exodus 32:16 You keep using your words against the Text.
The ten commandments and other commandments are part of the Mosaic Law, you cannot separate them, its one legal covenant.
Jesus taught to keep the commandments of God quoting right from the Ten and condemning those who do not, so your argument is not with me...


Matthew 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”
This is based upon a vision of Ellen White and its not a Christian theology.
Not once have I quoted anything from EGW, just scripture, but this is usually what people use when they don't have a biblical case. I am happy leaving this in God's hands, He is the arbitrator of His Truth and I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
 
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Well prove it through scripture that the Ten Commandment is not part of God's law.
Come on, now - you have to know that myst believes that the 10 are indeed part of God's Law! To wit, words directly from myst's pen:

The ten commandments and other commandments are part of the Mosaic Law,

You are clearly dancing - you have painted yourself into a corner where you are forced to face entirely legitimate questions about which of God's laws you keep and which you don't, and you are trying to distract with this irrelevant tangent that is not even remotely based on truth - myst has been clear that he or she DOES believe the 10 are part of the Law.
 
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Prove it through scripture. Who wrote the Ten Commandments? Who wrote the law of Moses? Who separated the Ten Commandments from the law of Moses- God did Exodus 32:16 You keep using your words against the Text.
"Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels...
Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."

Gal 3:19 and next

Not once have I quoted anything from EGW, just scripture, but this is usually what people use when they don't have a biblical case.
You just put Scriptures together to support the visions of Ellen White, but the theology you want is not found in those Scriptures.
 
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