Why the weekly Sabbath (Saturday) is the Lord's Day, in the Bible

[HIM]

No, its not. Its what you got from those scriptures.

I am asking you if you have a clear and specific commandment of God given to Christians or to Gentiles to keep the weekly Sabbath.

I am not asking you for your interpretation whether commandments given to Jews are for Christians or not.

Spiritual things are spiritually discerned.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

THERE IS NO WHEN IN THE TEXT. That is the difference. You are adding what is not even implied by the grammar.

But there is an also which connect His rest to the Sabbath rest. Also, in addition….the last part connects the when - we cease from our works as God did from His, which as we know is the seventh day Hebrews 4:4 which is the Sabbath of the Lord Exodus 20:10 and connects to the previous verse why the Sabbath rest remains for the people of God Hebrews 4:9 NIV

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

 

[trophy33]

Ok, I will leave it as agree to disagree. I wish you well in seeking Truth to His Word.

Thats not how it works. The question is so clear that you have only two choices:
1) yes, there is such scripture
2) no, there is not such scripture

Its not about agreement. If you have only scriptures that must be interpreted in your way, they are not clear and specific as I asked.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Thats not how it works. The question is so clear that you have only two choices:
1) yes, there is such scripture
2) no, there is not such scripture

Its not about agreement. If you have only scriptures that must be interpreted in your way, they are not clear and specific as I asked.

Sorry I can’t have a dicussion with someone who uses their words as if they are equal to scriptures. I asked you countless times to provide scripture to either back up your argument or prove me wrong, but each time the response is your words. We interpreter scripture differently and are so far off and instead of a discussion, it is just one accusation after the other using your words against the scriptures I post. There is no point in continuing under these circumstances so I am going to kindly ask you to please skip my posts moving forward, but wish you well in seeking Truth to God’s Word.

 

[trophy33]

Sorry I can’t have a dicussion with someone who uses their words as if they are equal to scriptures. I asked you countless times to provide scripture to either back up your argument or prove me wrong, but each time the response is your words. We interpreter scripture differently and are so far off and instead of a discussion, it is just one accusation after the other using your words against the scriptures I post. There is no point in continuing under these circumstances so I am going to kindly ask you to please skip my posts moving forward, but wish you well in seeking Truth to God’s Word.

I asked you to provide clear and specific Scriptures where God gave the commandment to keep the weekly Sabbath to Gentiles or Christians.

You provided only verses you interpret in that way. So its your words only. Your words are not scriptures.

Of course you cannot have a discussion, because my question is not about having a discussion, its a factual question.

 

[HIM]

But there is an also which connect His rest to the Sabbath rest. Also, in addition….the last part connects the when - we cease from our works as God did from His, which as we know is the seventh day Hebrews 4:4 which is the Sabbath of the Lord Exodus 20:10

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

NO WHEN. When you insert when you insert a condition as if we have to do something.

If we have entered into the Rest which is the Gospel we also cease from our own works as God did on the Seventh Day because He spake it and that which He spake is now in our hearts and minds.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I asked you to provide clear and specific Scriptures where God gave the commandment to keep the weekly Sabbath to Gentiles or Christians.

You provided only verses you interpret in that way. So it’s your words only. Your words are not scriptures.

I wrote Isaiah? Who specifically points out Gentiles for Sabbath-keeping? Along with the author of Hebrews Hebrews 4:9 NIV and Paul who said we there is no Jew or Gentiles just God’s people through faith Gal 3:26-28 and faith upholds God’s Romans 3:31 Revelation 14:12

Feel free to use scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

NO WHEN. When you insert when you insert a condition as if we have to do something.

If we have entered into the Rest which is the Gospel we also cease from our own works as God did on the Seventh Day because He spake it and that which He spake is now in our hearts and minds.

Is ceasing from our works on the seventh day not something we have to do?

Isaiah 58: 13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
14 Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord;
And I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth,
And feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father.
The mouth of the Lord has spoken.”

I agree the law is in our hearts and minds, we have to cooperate with what He placed in our hearts through our mind which we are called to be doers of His Word James 1:22 and doers of the commandments Revelation 22:14

 

[trophy33]

I wrote Isaiah? Who specifically points out Gentiles for Sabbath-keeping?

Isaiah is a Jewish book given to Jews and from the era of burnt sacrifices.

Your interpretation "its for us today" is just your personal view that is not confirmed by the apostolic Christianity.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Isaiah is a Jewish book given to Jews and from the era of burnt sacrifices.

Your interpretation "its for us today" is just your personal view that is not confirmed by the apostolic Christianity.

The holy mountain is heaven and that is not the past…. The apostles kept every Sabbath Acts 18:4, and said what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19 so your argument appears not to be with me.

 

[HIM]

Is ceasing from our works on the seventh day not something we have to do?

No it is something we want to do because the Law is in our hearts and minds. His Word is in our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the faith in which we preach. This is the Covenant, the Gospel. Because of this new heart and mind we do. Not because we have to but because we want to. And this state of wanting to is not of us it is of God.

 

[trophy33]

The holy mountain is heaven...

See? Your personal interpretation again.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

See? Your personal interpretation again.

I actually rely on scripture for interpolation…

2 Peter 1:18
And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.

Revelation 21:10
And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

 

[trophy33]

The apostles kept every Sabbath Acts 18:4

I hope you are not serious with this one.

 

[trophy33]

I actually rely on scripture for interpolation…

2 Peter 1:18
And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.

Revelation 21:10
And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

This is not Isaiah.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I hope you are not serious with this one.

I believe the scriptures, this is one of many showing the apostles kept every Sabbath preaching the gospel to Jews and Gentiles.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

This is not Isaiah.

Like I said, we are too far apart, all of scripture is God’s Word, it is one continuous book and scripture interprets scripture for us if we allow it to.

 

[trophy33]

I believe the scriptures, this is one of many showing the apostles kept every Sabbath preaching the gospel to Jews and Gentiles.

You are so adding to Scriptures that its almost absurd.

"Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks." Acts 18:4

Nothing about keeping the Sabbath by Paul.

Sabbath was simply the day in which people in Judaism gathered together in synagogues and thats why it was the best time for preaching the gospel to them. You are making culture to be theology.

 

[trophy33]

Like I said, we are too far apart, all of scripture is God’s Word, it is one continuous book and scripture interprets scripture for us if we allow it to.

Scripture is God's word only in its proper context. Putting single verses together is your personal word, not God's word.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Scripture is God's word only in its proper context. Putting single verses together is your personal word.

God’s holy mountain doesn’t change from one book to another. All I see is you using your words to argue with scripture. Too far apart, take care.